Author Topic: Updates regarding Krahgate (Read 4435 times)

John Grace · « **on:** November 17, 2013, 04:21:08 PM »

There are a few updates but I shall leave it up to the forum owners or others to share material. I can't be of further assistance regarding it. I don't believe there is any interest in it among SSPX laity. A few here and there perhaps but by and large, laity didn't give a hoot.

John Grace · « **Reply #1 on:** November 17, 2013, 05:16:22 PM »

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pbax · « **Reply #2 on:** November 17, 2013, 05:20:53 PM »

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There are a few updates but I shall leave it up to the forum owners or others to share material. I can't be of further assistance regarding it. I don't believe there is any interest in it among SSPX laity. A few here and there perhaps but by and large, laity didn't give a hoot.

You mean he is still around the SSPX :cussing: :cussing:

JPaul · « **Reply #3 on:** November 17, 2013, 05:36:31 PM »

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There are a few updates but I shall leave it up to the forum owners or others to share material. I can't be of further assistance regarding it. I don't believe there is any interest in it among SSPX laity. A few here and there perhaps but by and large, laity didn't give a hoot.

You mean he is still around the SSPX :cussing: :cussing:

As far as we know he is still at the center of things and remains at Bishop Fellay's right elbow, and with him are his associations with Israeli intelligence and the organized Jєωιѕн hierarchy.

If one needs a clear demonstration of the compromise of Tradition, there it is.

John Grace · « **Reply #4 on:** November 17, 2013, 05:47:52 PM »

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There are a few updates but I shall leave it up to the forum owners or others to share material. I can't be of further assistance regarding it. I don't believe there is any interest in it among SSPX laity. A few here and there perhaps but by and large, laity didn't give a hoot.

You mean he is still around the SSPX :cussing: :cussing:

Of course he is.One would be gullible or naive to believe otherwise.

pbax · « **Reply #5 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:19:03 PM »

You mean he is still around the SSPX :cussing: :cussing:[/quote]

Of course he is.One would be gullible or naive to believe otherwise.[/quote]

I guees I am gullible or naive, probably both but most times when a someone plants the bait like he did, well they run away to safety, and let the patsy take the blame.

Frances · « **Reply #6 on:** November 17, 2013, 06:28:20 PM »

Concern in the US is negligible. America is founded upon Zionism and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. Branding is as natural as breathing. People see nothing wrong with it! The response I got from a man who openly desires a formal practical agreement, "So, why SHOULDN'T the Society market their image? We get more people that way." When I pointed out that "more people" does not equal "converts," he shrugged his shoulders and said, "So?"
No point in continuing to convince the "useful idiot" mentality.

Wessex · « **Reply #7 on:** November 18, 2013, 06:22:27 AM »

The careerist may not be around if he can move on to lusher pastures, say, in Merkel's party. But the damage will have been done and he can claim the SSPX for the neo-cons! Of course, when the Virginian seminary is open for business he will be there all smiles beside Bp. Fellay. One could not have imagined a brave initiative to save the Latin Mass from the revolutionaries decades ago would have turned into a willing agency of alien forces and reeking of such distasteful political import.

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #8 on:** November 18, 2013, 06:41:19 AM »

Having been a parishioner at St. Michael's Frances I can well imagine any number of brain-dead Americanists who could have told you that...truly the ArchBp, to them, was nothing more than a bells and smells comfort merchant who could take them back to the 1950's..

John Grace · « **Reply #9 on:** November 18, 2013, 10:44:39 AM »

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The careerist may not be around if he can move on to lusher pastures, say, in Merkel's party. But the damage will have been done and he can claim the SSPX for the neo-cons! Of course, when the Virginian seminary is open for business he will be there all smiles beside Bp. Fellay. One could not have imagined a brave initiative to save the Latin Mass from the revolutionaries decades ago would have turned into a willing agency of alien forces and reeking of such distasteful political import.

An excellent summary and analysis. Many who attend the SSPX are Christian Democrats so would agree with Krah.

In Ireland many SSPX laity support Fine Gael, who are in the same political grouping as the CDU in Europe. Fine Gael recently legislated for abortion and there is a referendum in 2015 on should we allow queers to marry.

Christian Democracy for you.

Any updates or new material would be lost upon SSPX laity. Few if any have read the earlier material.

John Grace · « **Reply #10 on:** November 18, 2013, 10:54:32 AM »

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You mean he is still around the SSPX :cussing: :cussing:

Of course he is.One would be gullible or naive to believe otherwise.[/quote]

I guees I am gullible or naive, probably both but most times when a someone plants the bait like he did, well they run away to safety, and let the patsy take the blame. [/quote]

I obviously didn't mean you personally. My point is it would be rather naive to believe Bishop Fellay or Max Krah will be removed.

I agree it will be all smiles at the Disneyland seminary opening.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #11 on:** November 18, 2013, 11:17:39 AM »

To my knowledge, Bp. Fellay has never referred directly or indirectly to Max Krah, in either a sermon, a public statement, a letter or in any other form of communication at any time or in any place, since the name of that rather strange Menzingen asset surfaced three or four years ago. It is as if we all had imagined that such an individual ever existed, or more importantly, that such a one had ever been linked to Bp. Fellay and the SSPX in any significant way. What is more, I don't think we have ever heard the SG mention, much less discuss in length, Society finances, i.e. her investments, her business dealings, her real estate assets, bequeathments, etc. +Fellay might argue that it is none of our business. But, I'll bet, many on this discussion forum alone have given a tidy sum to SSPX chapels over the years, figured collectively.

John Grace · « **Reply #12 on:** November 18, 2013, 11:25:07 AM »

Catholic Tradition is at stake so I feel obliged to post the material.

Couple of snippets from the business partner of Bishop Fellay.

Regarding the Moatza Mekomit New York (Moatza Inc.) shall serve as the umbrella organization of the Israeli Community in the New York area.

Dr Krah likes the following.

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Full day of discussions with Israeli, Israeli-American and Jєωιѕн-American leaders, including Minister Naftali Bennet, President of Jєωιѕн Agency Nathan Sharansky, Head of Meretz MK Zahava Galon, PM Benjamin Netanyahu, Dr. Ronen Hoffman, MK Dr. Nachman Shay, JAFI Leadership - Alan Hoffman, Hasia Israeli, Yogev Karasanty, Cali Cohen, Azriel Nevo and Monika Lev-Cohen, heads of Israeli communities in Toronto, Miami, Melbourne and Los Angeles, Ruth Messinger, David Mallach and Uri Leventer-Roberts of the UJA, Gidi Grinstein, Oded Forer, Asi Shariv, and many dozens more

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Israel Day in the New York Stock Exchange.... Pride!

Organised by Oren Heiman, who has connections to Mossad.

A possible visit to Israel

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Maximilian Krah: I have to visit Israel soon. Having dinner at Manta Ray, drinking Golan Hights wine and enjoying some days in this magical city Jerusalem!

We all remember he laments a world without wine, the miniskirt and Israel.

John Grace · « **Reply #13 on:** November 18, 2013, 11:38:37 AM »

What Bishop Fellay and Krah are doing is total treachery against what Archbishop Lefebrve fought against.

John Grace · « **Reply #14 on:** November 18, 2013, 11:40:55 AM »

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To my knowledge, Bp. Fellay has never referred directly or indirectly to Max Krah, in either a sermon, a public statement, a letter or in any other form of communication at any time or in any place, since the name of that rather strange Menzingen asset surfaced three or four years ago. It is as if we all had imagined that such an individual ever existed, or more importantly, that such a one had ever been linked to Bp. Fellay and the SSPX in any significant way. What is more, I don't think we have ever heard the SG mention, much less discuss in length, Society finances, i.e. her investments, her business dealings, her real estate assets, bequeathments, etc. +Fellay might argue that it is none of our business. But, I'll bet, many on this discussion forum alone have given a tidy sum to SSPX chapels over the years, figured collectively.

Did many/any laity or priests ever challenge Bishop Fellay about this?