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Offline Guga

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TWO CURRENTS
« on: June 13, 2012, 04:09:46 PM »
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  • "Two Currents" by Dom Thomas Aquinas OSB
    TWO CURRENTS
    Thomas Aquinas OSB

    http://stdominic3order.blogspot.ca/search?updated-max=2012-05-20T21:25:00-03:00&max-results=7&start=7&by-date=false

    Two currents are manifested today in the Tradition. Some want an agreement. Others do not.
    Some say:
    - You need to enter the Church.
    Others respond:
    - Who is already inside, do not need to enter.
    - But we need the legality - the first ones answer.
    - It is this way how Barroux, Campos and many others fell down - the second ones reply.
    - But we will not fall; it is not possible that God allows such thing to happen.
    - “Whosoever considers himself to be standing, let him be careful not to fall”- warns St. Paul (I Cor 10, 12).
    The same causes produce the same effects. If Benedict XVI beatified whom excommunicated Archbishop Lefebvre and Bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer, if Benedict XVI celebrated the silver jubilee of the meeting of Assisi, if Benedict argues that the Second Vatican Council is consistent with the Tradition, then the evils that we saw during the pontificate of John Paul II will be repeated in Benedict XVI’s one.
    While the liberal Rome dominates the eternal Rome, while the biggest disaster in the history of the Church since its foundation, i.e., the Second Vatican Council, is the privileged reference of Bishops, Cardinals and the Pope, there is no solution.
    - But Rome is changing - the defenders of the agreements insist.
    - Changing in what?
    - Rome liberated the Mass and removed the excommunications - the first ones answer.
    - But what’s the good of release the Mass if Rome leaves the two Masses to coexist? We read in the Old Testament Abraham expelled the bondwoman Agar and her son Ishmael, for what Isaac would not be the son of the slave, as St. Paul says: "He who was born according to the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit", and St. Paul adds, "so also it is now" (Gal. V, 29). Abraham did this, reluctantly, in consideration of Sarah’s request, and God gave reason to Sara, because the one that is free should not be equated to the slave. The new Mass is Agar. She has no rights. She must be suppressed.
    As for the lifting of the excommunications, what’s the good of remove them if it is beatified the one who fulminated them? Despite of certain juridical benefit of these two facts, the "liberation" of the Mass (that was never prohibited) and the "raising" of the excommunications (that never had validity), the spiritual benefit of each one of them remained compromised by the contradictory context in which they were realized. Or it is John Paul II who has right of his side, or it is Archbishop Lefebvre. It is not possible to exalt John Paul II and withdraw if they withdrew the excommunication of Archbishop Lefebvre. Both cannot be right at the same time. This is pure modernism. As for the Mass, there is the same thing. If both are allowed, the result is the contradiction. It is a principle of dissolution. It is a principle of corruption of the Catholic faith.
    - But - say the agreement seekers - Rome cannot end this crisis at once. Human things are not solved at one stroke. To bring order out of chaos now, a long time is needed.
    - Yes, there's no doubt. But the beginning of this order will only come when the Pope had the intention to establish this order. And here a question arises. Does Benedict XVI wish to restore order in the Church?
    - Certainly - some will say among the agreement-seekers.
    - Nothing is less true than that - we reply. – To restore order in the Church is not to imitate Napoleon, who structured the Revolution and, thus, he perpetuated it. To spread disorder, a little order is needed, said Corção. Benedict XVI is a man of order, but the order he wants is not brought by the Social Kingship of Our Lord Jesus Christ: for him, “the Councils’ problem was to assimilate two centuries of liberal culture ". [1] It seems this is what Benedict XVI wants to do with his hermeneutic of continuity.
    - But - others insist – gradually Benedict XVI will take increasingly the defense of the Tradition. He needs us. He wants our help to combat modernism.
    - Campos also spoke that way. How Benedict XVI may want our help to fight modernism if he is indeed a modernist? He can fight certain modernists; but combating modernism, he can only do so after ceasing to be a modernist.
    - But in this way a solution will never come.
    - I don´t know. I just know that St. Anselm said that what God loves most in this world is the freedom of His Church. Putting Tradition under the authority of men which do not profess the integrity of the Catholic Faith is doing exactly the opposite of what God loves most.
    - But in that case are you identifying the Tradition and the Church?
    - Perfectly, since the Church is essentially traditional and cannot stop being so. [2]
    - But then who is Benedict XVI, if he is not a traditionalist?
    - He is a liberal Pope who enslaves the Church. Placed under his authority without denying his professed errors, he puts Sarah under the yoke of Hagar, and Isaac under the yoke of Ishmael. Now, we are children of the free one, not of the slave whose son is the Vatican II, the slave of two centuries of liberal culture.
    - So, which is the solution?
    - The conversion of the Pope.
    - But how to obtain it?
    - Praying and fighting. God doesn’t ask us the victory, but the combat. As St. Joan of Arc said, "The soldiers will fight and God will bring victory," by the Immaculate Heart of Mary. Here is all our hope.

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    [1] “From Liberalism to Apostasy. Ed.Permanência. pg. 10.
    [2] Evidently, the question is complex. The title of Ploncard d'Assac's book summarizes it in certain way: The Occupied Church. The Archbishop Lefebvre’s conference dictated in 1988 to answer to Dom Gérard's arguments, gives also a penetrating light on the question.


    Offline AntiFellayism

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    « Reply #1 on: June 13, 2012, 04:40:02 PM »
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  • Wow!!! That's exactly the kind of MAN we need...
    Non Habemus Papam


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    « Reply #2 on: June 13, 2012, 04:49:39 PM »
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  • Many thanks Guga. Dom Thomas is a holy priest. Gos bless him.