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Offline Neil Obstat

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Truth is not a question.
« on: February 24, 2014, 04:44:21 AM »
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    « Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 04:59:14 AM »
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    Truth is not the only thing that is not a question.  


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    Truth is not a question.
    « Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 05:01:35 AM »
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    Beauty is not a question.


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    « Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 05:03:37 AM »
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    Goodness is not a question.  


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    « Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 05:24:07 AM »
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    The Roman governor, Pontius Pilate, looked Truth in the eyes and asked a question.

    But he did not stick around for the answer.  

    He just spoke:  "What is truth?"  And then, he turned on his heel -- and he walked away, to his eternal destiny ... leaving the Truth behind him!

    NOW, that ("What is truth?") is a question, but truth, per se, is not a question.

    Nor is beauty a question;  nor is goodness a question.  



    These things are not a question:  goodness, truth, and beauty.  



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    « Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 01:46:17 PM »
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  • These things are not a question:  goodness, truth, and beauty

    I'm not too sure that beauty be in there with the others:


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    « Reply #6 on: March 12, 2014, 07:48:21 AM »
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    The world would be better off without some breeds of dog.


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    « Reply #7 on: March 12, 2014, 07:58:05 AM »
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    The world would be better off without some breeds of dog.


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    « Reply #8 on: March 12, 2014, 08:04:15 AM »
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    EMBER WEDNESDAY IN LENT (2014 A.D.)
    Feast Of SAINT GREGORY THE GREAT

    Truth is not a question, neither is goodness or beauty.

    By the same token, Evil is not a question it is always apparent.
    Ugly is not a question it is always apparent.
     
    The Father of Lies would like us to think otherwise.

    Explaining Vatican II in light of Tradition is explaining evil and ugly in light of goodness and beauty.

    "N'er the twain shall meet" ~ and that's the TRUTH!

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    « Reply #9 on: March 12, 2014, 08:26:45 AM »
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    +AMDG+

    EMBER WEDNESDAY IN LENT (2014 A.D.)
    Feast Of SAINT GREGORY THE GREAT


    Truth is not a question, neither is goodness or beauty.

    By the same token, Evil is not a question;  it is always apparent.
    Ugly is not a question;  it is always apparent.
     
    The Father of Lies would like us to think otherwise.

    Explaining Vatican II in light of Tradition is explaining evil and ugly in light of goodness and beauty.

    "N'er the twain shall meet" ~ and that's the TRUTH!



    Thank you.  

    Sometimes it seems there are those who wouldn't know truth when it hits them in the face.


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    « Reply #10 on: March 12, 2014, 08:37:07 AM »
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    Pontius Pilate, for example, looked into the face of Truth Incarnate and asked,


    "What is truth?"  



    But he didn't stick around to learn the answer.   Imagine living your whole life and then 2,000 years later, you're only remembered for one three-word sentence that was the turning point of you eternal destiny, when at the time, you entirely ignored it.  What a tragedy.  


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    « Reply #11 on: March 12, 2014, 10:40:24 AM »
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    Imagine living your whole life and then 2,000 years later, you're only remembered for one three-word sentence that was the turning point of you eternal destiny, when at the time, you entirely ignored it.  What a tragedy.  


    Pilate was recalled to Rome soon after the Crucifixion of Christ (for reasons unconnected with the Crucifixion) and another governor took his place.  The records of his return to Rome do not exist in the Roman records that still do exist and he seemed to have disappeared from history.  According to Catholic Encyclopedia he died before he reached Rome.

    However, according to traditions in the Ethiopian and/or Coptic Churches, Pilate later repented of his sins against Christ and is venerated as a Saint on some Eastern calendars.  He may have been shipwrecked on the coast of northern Africa on his way to Rome.

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    « Reply #12 on: March 12, 2014, 07:04:31 PM »
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    Imagine living your whole life and then 2,000 years later, you're only remembered for one three-word sentence that was the turning point of your eternal destiny, when at the time, you entirely ignored it.  What a tragedy.  


    Pilate was recalled to Rome soon after the Crucifixion of Christ (for reasons unconnected with the Crucifixion) and another governor took his place.  The records of his return to Rome do not exist in the Roman records that still do exist and he seemed to have disappeared from history.  According to Catholic Encyclopedia he died before he reached Rome.

    However, according to traditions in the Ethiopian and/or Coptic Churches, Pilate later repented of his sins against Christ and is venerated as a Saint on some Eastern calendars.  He may have been shipwrecked on the coast of northern Africa on his way to Rome.


    That's fascinating, TKGS.  If you ever find a list of specific Eastern calendars that have his name, please post them!  



    I was thinking about this question he asked Our Lord, and thought that he must have thought about it for the rest of his life.  How could that not be a gateway for God's grace in one's soul?  



    But imagine, WHAT IF Pilate HAD waited for an answer, and by thus waiting had he then heard the answer from Jesus..............  

    How does the following sound, as a possible quote from what Our Lord would have replied?  As follows:  



            Jesus Christ: "Thou sayest that I am a king.  For this was  
                I born, and for this came I into the world :  that I
                should give testimony to the truth.  Every one that is
                of the truth, heareth my voice."


            Pilate:   "What is truth?"
                (He pauses, and waits for the answer.)

            Jesus Christ: "Truth is not firstly a question of words
                but of the ideas for which the words stand."  
                (Pilate continues to look at Jesus...)  



    Does that sound like anything Our Lord could have said, in answer to Pilate?  Does anyone recognize the voice of God in that proposition?!  Or, is it rather the voice of something far different from God?


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    « Reply #13 on: March 12, 2014, 07:26:40 PM »
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    This is too much laughter for Lent!

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    « Reply #14 on: March 13, 2014, 05:35:18 AM »
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    Imagine living your whole life and then 2,000 years later, you're only remembered for one three-word sentence that was the turning point of you eternal destiny, when at the time, you entirely ignored it.  What a tragedy.  


    Pilate was recalled to Rome soon after the Crucifixion of Christ (for reasons unconnected with the Crucifixion) and another governor took his place.  The records of his return to Rome do not exist in the Roman records that still do exist and he seemed to have disappeared from history.  According to Catholic Encyclopedia he died before he reached Rome.

    However, according to traditions in the Ethiopian and/or Coptic Churches, Pilate later repented of his sins against Christ and is venerated as a Saint on some Eastern calendars.  He may have been shipwrecked on the coast of northern Africa on his way to Rome.



    Life is full of such speculation  ..... and how credible are records, anyway? A forward thinker would repeat Henry Ford's equally famous saying about history. My friends keep talking about all that 'missing history' which conveniently emerges to help those Medievalists in inventive mode. The Tudors would in turn revive/embroider the noble ways of Medieval times and the Victorians would do the same with the Tudors. And how I in turn like all that Victoriana for her 'hidden truths'! I also like that saying about a message getting handed down in time from person to person where the original 'truth' keeps getting altered slightly each time.

    I believe there is a need in history for an honest Pilate figure to remind us that truth is a constituent of power inside the human jungle and that idle speculation is entertainment for the "if only" crowd. Until some brave soul comes along with a handful of absolutes!  And good luck to him; he will need it!