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Offline 2Vermont

Re: Transcribed Sermon of +Vigano on the Death of BXVI
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2023, 10:55:50 AM »
Quote from: Miser Peccator on January 07, 2023, 10:28:20 AM
"The delicta juventutis [sins of his youth] were unfortunately never formally disavowed, although the horrors of the past decade have almost overshadowed them."

This is the same story everywhere.  Benedict was a lib in his youth and a trad when he "matured".

Vigano seems like a reading man.

Surely he would have read Benedict's book he wrote while the active pope stating that Jєωs don't need Jesus to go to Heaven.

Surely he would know that Benedict, as the Vicar of Christ, spent Good Friday in a ѕуηαgσgυє praying for the coming of the Moshiach (Antichrist).

Those things and more are not "sins of his youth". 

Bergolio is bad but he didn't pray for the ushering of the Antichrist!  In a ѕуηαgσgυє!  On Good Friday!

This fraudulent good pope/bad pope story needs to die.
Yes, it does. And after this "sermon" (btw, exactly how is it a sermon?), it's clear Vigano isn't the one who is going to help make that happen.  Bergoglio seems to be the only one the conservative Novus Ordites care about.  This sermon for a life-long modernist who made no public repudiation ....was pathetic. Vigano was 100% sure he was on his way to Heaven (or even ALREADY THERE!) :facepalm:
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Transcribed Sermon of +Vigano on the Death of BXVI
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2023, 03:19:39 PM »
Quote from: SeanJohnson on January 06, 2023, 08:48:39 AM
Of the two methods, it is actually Ratzinger’s which is the more brutal, because despite the brazen anti -traditionalist measures of Francis, the effect is to ensure an independent traditional movement survives outside the conciliar apparatus, in wait for more propitious times, whereas Ratzinger would welcome all the flies into the web, and assimilate all the trads into conciliar Borg (thereby destroying traditionalism in toto).

Francis’s impatience BXVI’s long game is a tactical error.

I agree.  Ratzinger and Wojtyla were FAR more dangerous than Bergoglio.  Anyone who still has the Catholic faith can recognize Bergoglio's errors, and a lot of conservative Novus Ordites have moved the right as a result of the Bergoglian Antipapacy.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Transcribed Sermon of +Vigano on the Death of BXVI
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2023, 03:22:23 PM »
Quote from: Miser Peccator on January 07, 2023, 10:28:20 AM
This fraudulent good pope/bad pope story needs to die.

You're falsely attributing this notion to +Vigano out of your unbridled and insatiable contempt for him, and you're incapable of reading nuances.  If +Vigano didn't spend 4 paragraphs frothing at the mouth about the heresies of Ratzinger, you interpret that to mean that he considered Ratzinger a "good pope".  He's repeatedly criticized him and does so here as well, albeit gently, IMO TOO gently.  But to suggest that he characterized him as a "good pope" is more of your slander campaing against +Vigano.  You should be thoroughly ashamed of yourself, and you need to stop posting.  But nothing is going to stop you.  You need to pray that God is more gentle with you at your judgment than you are with +Vigano, in whom you apparently see nothing but evil.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Transcribed Sermon of +Vigano on the Death of BXVI
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2023, 03:25:51 PM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on January 07, 2023, 10:55:50 AM
Yes, it does. And after this "sermon" (btw, exactly how is it a sermon?) ...

It's clear from the text itself that he's giving a brief talk while offering Mass for the repose of Ratzinger's soul, and that this is a transcript of the talk.
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We address this same prayer to the divine Majesty as we celebrate the Holy Mass of suffrage for the soul of Joseph Ratzinger

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Transcribed Sermon of +Vigano on the Death of BXVI
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2023, 03:29:58 PM »
Quote from: Miser Peccator on January 07, 2023, 10:28:20 AM
Bergolio is bad but he didn't pray for the ushering of the Antichrist!  In a ѕуηαgσgυє!  On Good Friday!

It was't on Good Friday.  Perhaps you need to get your facts straight to start.  It was on a Friday, and at noon, but not on Good Friday, and the Dimonds point out that Friday at 12:00 was the time and day of the week that Our Lord was crucified, and that's bad enough, but the visit took place on August 19, 2005.  You must have misinterpreted their comment into thinking it was Good Friday.
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