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Offline Capt McQuigg

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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2012, 07:58:06 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
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    Do you notice any resemblance?


    Well, you never see Pope Benedict and Emperor Palpatine together


     :applause:

    True words, very!


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    « Reply #16 on: June 16, 2012, 07:58:51 PM »
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    when do we get the trad prequel trilogy

    where everyone evil suddenly gets obvious badguy names

    and the Mass is all choreographed

    and the story sucks and makes no sense

    and basically ruins the original trad trilogy


    Bishop Fellay is working on the manuscript now - in secret!!!


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    « Reply #17 on: June 17, 2012, 10:36:26 AM »
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  • Any ewoks?

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    « Reply #18 on: June 18, 2012, 07:25:17 PM »
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    Any ewoks?


    Franciscans.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #19 on: June 21, 2012, 02:48:05 PM »
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  • (Saw this cited on IA, but it certainly came to mind when this madness first broke)...


    Though its not Star Wars, this scene (and film!) fits perfectly:



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    « Reply #20 on: May 13, 2013, 09:53:10 PM »
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  • Great thread, Matthew! Don't know how I missed this when it came out.

    I decided to add two Catholic Star Wars analogy websites I've found.

    The first is a Trad one I posted in another thread:

    http://big-modernism.com/star-wars-and-vatican-ii/

    And here's a half good, half lame one from a Neo-Cath. JPII as Skywalker?  :roll-laugh2:

    http://vestalmorons.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/star-wars-and-the-history-of-vatican-ii/

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    « Reply #21 on: May 13, 2013, 09:56:06 PM »
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  • Here's the predictable Neo-Cath shots at the Trads:

    http://vestalmorons.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/star-wars-and-the-history-of-vatican-ii/

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    The anti-humanistic attitude in the Jedi Council is the same kind seen among many pre-Vatican II Catholics

    Is there any other party, besides the Emperor and Anakin himself, who deserves responsibility for creating Darth Vader?  Well, I think, honestly, a large portion of the blame falls on the Jedi Council.  You see, the Jedi Council, as depicted in the prequels, is horribly – you could say – conservative.  They are incredibly stiff, rigid, and, frankly, quite boring.  We hoped the Jedi Order would be an awe-inspiring congregation of mystical legionaries, like the Knights of the Round Table, but instead, we get a bunch of disappointing, spiritless, affectionless dullards.  The cause of this, I believe, is their denial of the goodness of human emotion, which in their understanding, leads to the dark side; thus, they condemn all desire, all anger, fear, and even love for other human beings.  This mindset cannot be lived without having one’s emotions eventually erupt forth in treason, for nature rebels when ill-treated.  The passions must be ordered to reason, not repressed by reason, as St. Thomas would say.  Hypocrisy commonly results from this repression, or else just plain and honest apostasy.

    For example, Anakin’s emotional attachment to Padme (and his mother, for that matter) is natural but tragically never dealt with properly by the Jedi Council, who teach that such emotions have no business whatsoever in the life of a Jedi.  That is why they almost do not allow Anakin to be trained, for he has an emotional bond to his mother.  This badly handled psychological treatment would be the Jedi’s undoing.

    They focus too much on the discipline and the Force and not enough on the human person. The Sith, on the other hand, over-emphasizes the self, seeking only to gratify human appetite without any heed to higher things.  Both lack balance, both of them – Jedi and Sith.  The Force, by itself, is not enough.  The Force, which is symbolically divine, needs to be incarnated harmoniously with the human person … not replacing the human person.  This is what is meant by the “balance of the Force,” which Anakin is destined to bring about by his having been conceived in a human mother but not by a human father.

    Before the second Vatican Council, the Church was like this decrepit Jedi Council: rigid, emotionless, and in serious need of reform.  Everyone knew it, even Pius XII.  They had dwelt on the divinity of Christ for too long and needed to regain that sense of humanism that the modern world was thirsting for after the inhumanity of World War II.  But they were a little late, since secular humanism, symbolized by Palpatine, had already waged an impressive campaign.


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    Owen and Beru Lars (Luke’s Uncle and Aunt) are Disenchanted and/or Traditionalist Catholics

    As many Catholics who were scandalized by the fallout of Vatican II and bitter at the pontificate of Paul VI, so are Owen and Beru Lars extremely (and overly?) worrisome about the Empire as well as about Obi-Wan Kenobi, whom they no doubt see as (at least) the partial cause of Darth Vader.  They are the kind of people who, while hating the great evils in society, nonetheless try and hold people back from fixing them out of a small-minded, misplaced paranoia.  The Lars hold Luke back from learning the Jedi ways, just as many extremist Catholics hold back others from learning what their faith actually says.

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    « Reply #22 on: May 13, 2013, 10:01:00 PM »
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  • In contrast here is the Traditional shot at the Neo-Caths:

    http://big-modernism.com/star-wars-and-vatican-ii/

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    The mindless clones bring to mind our Neo-Catholic friends. The clone troopers blindly followed Palpatine’s orders to hunt down the Jedi. Why? Because Palpatine was the Chancellor. Like the clones, questioning authority is not in a Neo-Catholic’s DNA. The clones never stopped to ask why they were now suddenly fighting against the Old Republic they had just fought for moments earlier. Theirs was not to question why, but to obey authority. Thus, those who are supposed to be defending the Faith, instead attack Traditional teachings such as the Social Kingship of Christ.


    Gratuitous pic of Neo-Cath apologists next to this pic:  :laugh2:



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    « Reply #23 on: May 14, 2013, 12:24:02 AM »
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  • My son came up with this:

    Pope St. Pius X - Yoda
    Archbishop Lefebvre - Qui-Gon Jinn
    Bishop Williamson - Obi Wan
    Fr. Pfeiffer - Luke Skywalker
    Pablo - R2D2
    Fr. Ringrose - Mace Windu
    Bishop Fellay - Anakin Skywalker
    Benedict XVI - Emporer Palpatine
    Sister Marie Theonilla (prioress of German Carmel) - Princess Leia
    Fr. Rostand - Grand Moff Tarkin
    Cardinal Mueller - Count Dooku




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    « Reply #24 on: May 14, 2013, 01:34:13 AM »
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  • With the recent photo of Maxie in the hot tub...




    Tele's "Jabba the Hutt" he's been dubbed.

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #25 on: May 14, 2013, 05:33:58 AM »
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  • I like the anaalogy.  As far as the comment "acuse tbe INTERPRETATION of the Council "I believe that whe. a priest makes such a scandalous public statement, his name should be revealed so others will be aware. (sorry in advance if his name was mentioned and I missed it.)


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    « Reply #26 on: May 14, 2013, 05:45:05 AM »
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  • Where are the baby Ewoks!  :baby:

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    « Reply #27 on: May 14, 2013, 09:49:40 AM »
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  • Where are these photos of Doctor Evil coming from?  Does he post them himself?

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    « Reply #28 on: May 14, 2013, 09:50:58 AM »
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  • Obi-Wan with baby Ewoks


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    « Reply #29 on: May 14, 2013, 12:52:05 PM »
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  • Quote from: Zeitun
    Where are these photos of Doctor Evil coming from?  Does he post them himself?



    It's a mystery.  
    I had asked John Grace to enlighten us, but there was no reply.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi