Author Topic: Tracing Pablo back to Fr. Pfeiffer (Read 3777 times)

Matthew · « **on:** February 27, 2016, 03:41:01 PM »

We all know about Pablo, including his works, his display, and his allurements.

The question is: why do we care? Why is he such a big deal?

Because he is the right-hand man of Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer, who is part of the Resistance (for good or ill) and who is opposing most other priests -- and both bishops -- in that Resistance. Together, they are a source of division, chaos, and in the end, evil.

"Evil?", you say? "Isn't that a bit harsh?"
No, I'm just stating a fact. Slander (and libel) against good, faithful priests and bishops and feverishly working to undermine their apostolates is certainly evil. As is keeping the Faithful away from Mass and the Sacraments which are objectively good and acceptable for the Faithful to attend.

Fr. Pfeiffer is with Pablo, and Pablo is with Fr. Pfeiffer. They reflect on each other, until which point Fr. Pfeiffer decides to cut Pablo loose -- which he has not yet done, to my knowledge. Fr. Pfeiffer could easily begin tomorrow shouting from the rooftops that Pablo is gone, that he doesn't represent him or OLMC (the Boston, KY operation), etc. But he hasn't done this.

JUST THINK ABOUT IT.

Imagine if I started tomorrow on a campaign of slander against a priest or group of priests. Say I made up the vilest, most baseless slander, I created videos, and I let loose a barrage of diabolical language from my mouth. Don't you think I'd get a call from Fr. Zendejas pretty quickly, because people would know that I'm on his side (he says Mass here after all), and that perhaps I'm working FOR him in this latest slander?

(Note: my posts are my own; Fr. Zendejas and any other Resistance priest/bishop do not decide what I post here. They usually have nothing to do with it. When I post something on CathInfo, it's because I want to. Sometimes a priest will share information with me, and I will ask him if I can post this or that information to CathInfo. The closest thing to "influence over me" was Fr. Zendejas' advice that I keep things objective rather than letting things get emotional and personal.)

My point is that any horrible behavior on my part would reflect badly on Fr. Zendejas, whether he liked it or not. It's simply the way things work. The latter would certainly move to "rein me in" for the sake of his own apostolate and reputation. And he would be right to do so!

But back to Fr. Pfeiffer -- he has never done this with Pablo. My first question is WHY!?!?! but the fact is, he hasn't.

Which means that in some way, to some degree, Fr. Pfeiffer is complacent EVEN WITH THE LATEST, VILE SLANDER AGAINST FR. VOIGT about cursing his son Santiago.

This is grave, and the repercussions go well beyond personalities and individuals. We're talking about the good of souls and the reputation -- and apostolates -- of some very dedicated priests. Dedicated priests which the Traditional world is facing a shortage of right now.

Which is why I MUST say something publicly about this outrage.

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #1 on:** February 27, 2016, 08:14:16 PM »

It's definitely not a good sign when you have to shop around for some obscure bishop. Why couldn't he get along w/Bp. Williamson? It can't always be the other person's fault ( like someone who has multiple annulments ). As soon as I get a little ahead I'll order something from Bp.Williamson. :reporter:

Charlemagne · « **Reply #2 on:** February 28, 2016, 11:07:58 AM »

My family and I have disassociated ourselves from Fr Pfeiffer entirely. I like him personally (we're from the same area of the country and have much in common), but I refuse to allow my family to get anywhere near what I suspect to be a cultish atmosphere.

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** February 28, 2016, 11:29:34 AM »

From the mailbag:

On 02/28/2016 10:19 AM, ______ wrote:
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> Hi Matthew,
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> I was reading your Cathinfo forum and was curious about the one on Pablo because he almost sounds as if he were possessed. Out of curiosity I googled his name to see if anything came up. You may have seen this lengthy article on Paul Hernandez dated 2001 but I thought I would forward it to you anyway. (This has to be the same Hernandez as it mentions Fr. Pfeiffer’s name). This has to explain ‘Pablo’s’ and Fr. Pfeiffer’s really weird relationship . After reading this article below I can only conclude that indeed he, Pablo, (and for that matter maybe even Fr. Pfeiffer)may very well be possessed. Lay people should positively never ever be messing around with the demonic as he seems to have done for a very long time.
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> Very sad situation in Boston, KY.
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> God Bless,
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> http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the-devil-and-mr-hernandez-6418725
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> "Hernandez says he's never discussed exorcism directly with Our Lady of Sorrows' current pastor, Joseph Pfeiffer, but believes Pfeiffer supports his work. In a New Times interview, however, Pfeiffer says he's never performed an exorcism himself, and demonstrates a skeptical attitude about the practice."

Yes, as a matter of fact when this article came to light a couple years ago it made me decide to ban Pablo for the good of the Resistance. There was no emotional falling out or anything like that.

I decided that A) Pablo's sensus Catholicus was in hopeless shape (dabbling in the demonic, superstition, etc.), and B) Pablo was a liability to the Resistance. I had to take away his "platform" for fame, at least insofar as it lay within my power. I had to do what I could to remove him from the spotlight.

He also was known for bombastic exaggeration and fomenting confusion, for example when one of the Pfeiffer buildings burnt down, he said, "The only thing left is the mailbox." and many people thought the whole ranch (including the main house Mr. & Mrs. Pfeiffer live in) burnt down. He causes confusion, and is way too sensational and emotional to be put in charge of the successor to the SSPX -- the Resistance -- which is the best hope of people keeping the Faith during this Crisis.

You might find it interesting to note that Pablo totally "owned" this story. He had no problems with it, when confronted with it. Which is quite telling, since this story really shows what Pablo is made of: insanity. I mean, waiting up for the devil with a boom box and a deck of playing cards? For a third party, not for yourself -- and yourself being a LAYMAN?

As I've often said, there's a REASON Catholics say that dabbling in the devil is bad news. If it was just "scary to hear about" or "unpleasant" but had no practical consequences, how could you say Catholics must avoid it? No, it's to be avoided because one could become obsessed or possessed. And it's scary that Pablo was this involved with the devil 13 years ago. Where would that unhealthy fascination take him? Well, just look at the man today. He wears black, his other favorite color is red (color of fire, warning), he talks foul, divides, threatens violence, has corrupted Fr. Pfeiffer (convincing him to fight other priests/bishops) and through Fr. Pfeiffer has caused countless souls to stop attending Mass on a regular basis, he himself doesn't attend Mass anymore (for years), he slanders the best Resistance priests, foments hatred and enmity, etc.

And let's not forget: He constantly uses the devil's tactics, also used by the devil's minions the Communists and Freemasons. Namely: character assassination, propaganda, lies, slander, projection of one's faults onto one's enemies (the boldest lying and slander).

I would be willing to believe the devil is involved, yes.

Matthew

Matthew · « **Reply #4 on:** February 28, 2016, 11:46:40 AM »

Quote from: Charlemagne

My family and I have disassociated ourselves from Fr Pfeiffer entirely. I like him personally (we're from the same area of the country and have much in common), but I refuse to allow my family to get anywhere near what I suspect to be a cultish atmosphere.

I agree.

I've said many times, I'm not the type of person for whom a Fr. Pfeiffer type "rubs me wrong". Actually I like southern culture, I like people who are down to earth, even earthy. It actually matches my own family culture. It matches my own Irish culture upbringing (down to earth, witty, a bit low end, etc.) All things being equal, I prefer sermons where the priest DOESN'T read his sermon from a sheet of paper. I've never had a preference for high-end homiletics from priests. I prefer the priest who leans on the pulpit and gives you a heart-to-heart spontaneous sermon. For example, Fr. Pfeiffer.

The SSPX seminary in America never had a "homiletics" course. Bishop Williamson was quoted as saying something along the lines of, "If a priest has something to say, he'll find a way to say it." So +Williamson focused instead on forming the priest's mind and giving him something important to say.

So with that having been said, I am horrified and saddened by what's been going on in Kentucky for the past couple of years. When I see evils like this (for example, slandering excellent priests like Fr. Zendejas, Fr. Voigt, and bishops like Bishop Williamson, Bishop Faure) I have to say/do something. It doesn't matter what I thought of Fr. Pfeiffer personally.

(In other news, I never had a problem with Bishop Fellay until it became public what he was up to. See the pattern?)

First of all, men can fall from grace at any time. Second of all, the truth and God comes first. My first love is God, not Fr. Pfeiffer. That is how it should be. If anyone makes me choose between themselves and God, they are going to lose. Period.

I wish this nightmare in Boston, KY would end, and that Pablo would be sent away for good, with some kind of subsequent repentance/apology from Fr. Pfeiffer. If that ever happened, I'd be the first one to forgive & forget. I don't hate him, and I don't enjoy being forced to oppose him. The world needs as many good priests as it can get.

But I do enjoy fighting for God. God is my King and my first Love. There's a joy and peace of soul that comes with doing the right thing. Don't make my fighting for God equal fighting you, or I will have to fight you. It's that simple.

P.S. It's a given that loving God means hating evil. Yes, there is no love without hate! The two go together. You can't fervently love God without fervently fighting what is displeasing to God and what is against God.

But our hate must be focused on the evil itself, while having compassion for those caught up in the evil. We must not hate anyone still alive in this time of mercy, for we never know who will end up praising God forever in heaven.

klasG4e · « **Reply #5 on:** February 28, 2016, 07:38:28 PM »

Perhaps, it would be good to start a 54 day Rosary Novena to bring about an end to the Pablo/Pfeiffer connection.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #6 on:** February 29, 2016, 11:50:11 AM »

Matthew:

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I wish this nightmare in Boston, KY would end, and that Pablo would be sent away for good, with some kind of subsequent repentance/apology from Fr. Pfeiffer. If that ever happened, I'd be the first one to forgive & forget. I don't hate him, and I don't enjoy being forced to oppose him. The world needs as many good priests as it can get.

I am back on Cathinfo, at least for awhile. Matthew has graciously reinstated me after an earlier dust-up. Matthew is basically a good fellow, I think. He supports all the right bishops and priests, IMO, and opposes the wrong-headed ones. Cathinfo is really one of the last viable traditional Catholic forums left. So I am happy to be allowed to make a contribution from time to time.

Yes, the "nightmare" in Boston, KY should end, which means, in short, that Boston should end. This dysfunctional "seminary" should end. Joe Pfeiffer should be grounded and not allowed to fly anywhere in the world ever again. (Maybe under a Trump administration that might happen.) Just kidding!

Pablo should be committed to an institution and given proper care. I don't hate Pablo. Yes, it is somewhat troubling that he should want his dog to pee on my grave. But I forgive him, and it wouldn't matter anyway. What does a dead man care that any kind of an animal might relieve itself on his grave? I'm sure that animals do this from time to time on the graves of other men throughout the world.

Joe Pfeiffer simply needs to get used to the idea that Bp. Williamson probably would not consecrate him as a bishop if he were the last priest on earth. Just get over it, Joe! Perhaps, Fr. Pfeiffer needs to suspend operation, go to work and pay back Fr. Voigt what he owes him, at least in part.

Just a few of my less trenchant thoughts. Thank you.

klasG4e · « **Reply #7 on:** February 29, 2016, 05:59:48 PM »

After the seemingly endless hand wringing and exposes concerning Pablo isn't it time we tried to make a real commitment of time and effort to pray a 54 day Rosary Novena for the termination of the Pablo/Pfeiffer connection? With God all things are possible!

Rosary Novena

hollingsworth · « **Reply #8 on:** February 29, 2016, 09:16:19 PM »

Why not a 54 day Rosary for the termination of Pfeifferism altogether? Then you'd get a two-fer.

Incredulous · « **Reply #9 on:** February 29, 2016, 11:50:48 PM »

And who knows...?

A stray M-1 round from nearby Fort Knox could even take-out "Pablo's room at the Boston rectory? :thinking:

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2016, 01:21:49 PM »

Quote from: hollingsworth

Yes, the "nightmare" in Boston, KY should end, which means, in short, that Boston should end. This dysfunctional "seminary" should end. Joe Pfeiffer should be grounded and not allowed to fly anywhere in the world ever again. (Maybe under a Trump administration that might happen.) Just kidding!

Glad to see you back, Holly. But don't you think you might be 'throwing out the baby with the bathwater' there? I do agree that said 'bathwater' is in desperate need of a good straining and detoxifying.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2016, 01:35:42 PM »

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Glad to see you back, Holly. But don't you think you might be 'throwing out the baby with the bathwater' there? I do agree that said 'bathwater' is in desperate need of a good straining and detoxifying.

Maybe I am throwing out the baby with the bathwater. But we can only speak from the standpoint of what has happened here in north Idaho. The Pfeiffer/Pablo syndrome has gravely affected numbers of the faithful. It has caused much confusion, uncertainty and angst among them. Nobody seems to know in what direction to go now. The so-called "pastor" of the Post Falls chapel has sown discord and havoc there. No amount of "good straining and detoxifying" at this point can act as a corrective, IMO. Fr. Pfeiffer, to use the vernacular, just plain blew it. He's like a small child who gets the keys to the family sedan, and lurches off down the street, careening out of control from lane to lane, until finally he crashes into a utility pole and totals the vehicle.