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https://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2019/09/hacia-el-acuerdo-el-obispo-de-la.html


Monday, September 23, 2019
TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: THE BISHOP OF THE DIOCESE IN WHICH THE ECONE SEMINAR IS FOUND, MAKES IMPORTANT GRANTING TO THE FSSPX





Bishop Charles Morerod, of the diocese in which the Econe seminary is located, accessing a request from the FSSPX, has authorized the Fraternity to make use of certain temples of his diocese, giving these two reasons: 1 ) “The relationship has been made more flexible” between Rome and the SSPX because of the agreement on marriages . 2) "It is an act of ecuмenism."

It should be noted that this prelate, who is seen as “conservative”, is or was a member of GREC (as reported by Fr. Lelong in his book "For the necessary reconciliation" )  and he was also a member of the theological commission for the Rome-FSSPX talks that took place about 10 years ago.

This was published in 2015, in relation to Bishop Moredod and another prelate:

Appointments very timely in Switzerland!

The Secretum Meum Mihi site (...) has made this analysis quite realistic: It emphasizes that traditional-looking bishops are being appointed to key positions in Switzerland, and that these same bishops have all the sympathy of Ménzingen. Everything is done, logically concludes the article, to make the relations between the SSPX and the conciliar church more fluid.

The accordion machine advances his pawns every day ...

(Read the entry from which the appointment was taken)


Source (underlined added by NP)

Mons. Charles Morerod allows the traditionalist Priestly Fraternity San Pío X to celebrate the 50th anniversary of its foundation in the Bourguillon chapel and in the church of San Mauricio, in the old town of Freiburg.

Charles Morerod, bishop of Lausanne, Geneva and Freiburg, grants a special derogation to his 2013 decree , which prohibits the provision of places of worship in the diocese for the celebrations of the San Pío X Fraternity. The San Pío X Priestly Fraternity remains separate of the Roman Catholic Church.  

"Unique concession"

Bishop accepted the request of the SSPX for several reasons, explained to cath.ch Laure-Christine Grandjean, spokesman for the diocese. On the one hand, the relationship has been relaxed, in particular by the letter of the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei of March 27, 2017, which regulates the marriage of the parishioners of the Fraternity .

The bishop declares that this is a unique concession. Finally, it is "really problematic not to accept the St. Pius X Fraternity, while we do it for other Christian denominations." So it is an act of ecuмenism .

However, according to Grandjean, the bishop emphasizes: "What is a reason for joy for the Fraternity St. Pius X is not for the Roman Catholic Church, because the division is not something happy."

It is not the first permit

According to Heinrich Mörgeli, priest of the St. Pius X Fraternity in Enney, it is important to be able to celebrate Jubilee in Freiburg. The first seminarians had gathered there in the fall of 1969, before the official foundation of the Brotherhood in 1970.

According to Mörgeli, it is not the first time that the Fraternity St. Pius X receives permission to celebrate. He has already celebrated his pilgrimage twice on August 1 in Freiburg. There was also a celebration of the 40th anniversary of the Fraternity. " The bishop only asked us not to do propaganda abroad , not to provoke the parishioners of Freiburg and to avoid any in temptation of appropriation. "

Prohibition since 2013

Priests of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X are prohibited from using Roman Catholic churches and chapels for any priestly ministry, especially the administration of the sacraments. This is confirmed by a decree of January 20, 2013 by Mons. Charles Morerod, bishop of Lausanne, Geneva and Freiburg. The same prohibition applies to non-Christian religious communities. On the other hand, for reasons of pastoral need, churches can be provided for Christian Catholics, Reformed Evangelicals, Lutherans, Orthodox and Anglicans. The decree of Bishop Morerod implements a resolution of the Swiss Episcopal Conference on the use of Catholic churches and chapels.



Offline SeanJohnson

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Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2019, 10:54:44 AM »
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  • There’s a church in Ecône which has bronzed doors, which I saw in person with Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, upon which are inscribed the martyrs:

    Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Luther, etc, etc.

    There’s nothing traditional about this Bishop.

    He’s just playing the game, knowing “reconciliation carries within itself its own internal dynamism” (ie., self-censorship, which he makes an explicit requirement), which is already abundantly obvious.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
    « Reply #2 on: September 23, 2019, 11:19:00 AM »
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  • They're lulling in the Trads so they can assimilate them into the Modernist collective and ultimately thereby wipe them out.

    It's actually a brilliant strategy ... but it took someone like +Fellay to be willing to play.

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    Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
    « Reply #3 on: September 23, 2019, 11:39:43 AM »
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  • I have no idea how they could justify allowing prots and EO to use their churches yet not the sspx.  That’s so hypocritical

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    Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
    « Reply #4 on: September 23, 2019, 11:58:31 AM »
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  • I have no idea how they could justify allowing prots and EO to use their churches yet not the sspx.  That’s so hypocritical
    Different religion that's why. 


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    Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
    « Reply #5 on: September 23, 2019, 12:38:16 PM »
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  • I have no idea how they could justify allowing prots and EO to use their churches yet not the sspx.  That’s so hypocritical

    That's actually the reason the prelate gave for why he allowed it -- stating that it is
    "really problematic not to accept the St. Pius X Fraternity, while we do it for other Christian denominations."


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    Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
    « Reply #6 on: September 23, 2019, 03:02:44 PM »
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  • That's actually the reason the prelate gave for why he allowed it -- stating that it is
    "really problematic not to accept the St. Pius X Fraternity, while we do it for other Christian denominations."
    Not even the pope categorizes them that way though.  Sspx is considered Catholic.  Protestants at the least are clearly not (I’ve seen some people argue that EOs are, which is likely a new idea, but I’ve never heard anyone say prots are categorically Catholic)

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    Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
    « Reply #7 on: September 23, 2019, 03:03:44 PM »
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  • Different religion that's why.
    Protestants are a different religion than Catholicism and yet even that was allowed


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    Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
    « Reply #8 on: September 23, 2019, 03:13:30 PM »
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  • Has not this "using the parish church" already been going on in New York State?

    The MN parish where the SSPX sisters' novitiate is located has been allowing them in to use the altar there during the SSPX Corpus Christi processions for at least two years now.  
    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"

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    Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
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  • The Econe diocese is allowing the SSPX to “make use of certain temples”.

    Was this a typo or a Freudian Masonic slip?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: TOWARDS THE AGREEMENT: Mons. Charles Morerod allows SSPX to use the Church
    « Reply #10 on: September 24, 2019, 07:12:51 AM »
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  • The Econe diocese is allowing the SSPX to “make use of certain temples”.

    Was this a typo or a Freudian Masonic slip?
    No, it was most likely due to the poor Google translation.