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Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2019, 09:50:21 AM »
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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #16 on: January 11, 2019, 12:42:50 PM »
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  • PV,

    I don't think such Canonical emergency status applies in this case, because in this trad region, +W has already suppressed the Pablo/Pfeiffer apostolate.

    This is a headless, vagus operation that the new bishop could not revive, until he came to terms with +W.

    Maybe Moran is willing to excommunicate +W too to eliminate HE's precedence?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #17 on: January 11, 2019, 01:17:51 PM »
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    I don't see the point in further drawing attention to the Pfeiffer clown community. It's a waste of time. They're making their beds, and they'll have to sleep in it.

    Yes, it is a waste of time.  But that does not keep various forum members from bringing Moran to our attention from time to time.  I don't think that Moran is a "clown." A clown is  a fool, who makes people laugh.  He dresses in colorful, ridiculous looking clothing, and performs comical antics.
    Moran assumes the garb of a real Catholic bishop.  He's got the miter and crozier. He is far more sinister than a mere clown.  If numbers of the faithful can be fooled by this man, then there is far more in play here than clownishness.

    Offline obediens

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #18 on: January 11, 2019, 02:58:09 PM »
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  • Let's see the photos of the imposition of the pallium.  :jester: 

    No prelate can excommunicate without ordinary jurisdiction. 
    I am sincerely sorry for any gossip, detraction, libel, slander, calumny, rumors, heresy, schism, false information, lies or half-truths which may have appeared in my posts. May God forgive me.

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #19 on: January 11, 2019, 04:20:13 PM »
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  • The term excommunicate is interchangeable with banishment as used by many.  Even if he is a bishop, "Bishop" Amobrose cannot excommunicate anyone without jurisdiction. A priest cannot excommunicate anyone.  Members of the laity cannot excommunicate.  The worst any of these can do is "vote you off the island."  Unless a person is prevented by civil law from entering a particular chapel, there is technically nothing that can be done if the facility is tax-exempt.  When it comes to chapels that meet on private property, all bets are off.  The owner of the property has a civil and juridical right to bar a person from his property.  ie.  Nobody has a right to enter the land of OLMC.  
    Even if a chapel is tax exempt, the priest and laity can make it nearly impossible for an unwanted person to hear Mass.  (Think, harassment on line, damage to vehicle, graffiti on vehicle, harassment on the street outside one's home...) The priest can refuse absolution, communion, any and all sacraments.  One can be told directly by the ushers to leave.  If the victim returns with the police, the guilty parties will deny everything.  The outward effects of continual harassment are basically the same as being excommunicated, but in God's eyes, there is no excommunication.  
    Just wanting to get this right.  Those who continually claim to have been excommunicated, or that Bp. or Fr. so-and-so excommunicated someone is nonsense.


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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #20 on: January 11, 2019, 05:56:54 PM »
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  • As my husband said, quoting Archbishop Lefebvre, "You can't excommunicate me from a church I don't belong to".  ;D

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #21 on: January 11, 2019, 06:57:52 PM »
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  • How can Ambrose's hosts continue to support him after listening to that deranged rant? I'm embarrassed for them. Far from the proper demeanor of a bishop, he comes off as petty, petulant and proud. Wake up you people, and send this imposter packing!

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #22 on: January 12, 2019, 12:17:10 AM »
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  • It's all sound and fury. Ambrose cannot excommunicate, where does he get that idea?


     

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