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Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
« on: January 10, 2019, 06:12:39 PM »
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    Excommunicated Latae Sententiae?
    8 January 2019


    According to Ambrose Moran in the following video, I have excommunicated myself because I have “insulted, slandered, and attacked a bishop”.  I suppose he means that I have incurred the penalty of excommunication latae sententiae (i.e., ipso facto or automatically).  Yet, Ambrose Moran does not cite one canon of the 1917 Code of Canon Law (or even the 1983 Code for that matter) to support his claim.  Instead, he uses general terms such as “most ancient canons of the Church” or “the canons of the Holy Apostles”.  If one is to make such a claim, then please back it up with specific canons of the Catholic Church’s Code of Canon Law.  Otherwise, such a claim cannot be taken seriously.



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    Offline Quid Retribuam Domino

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #1 on: January 10, 2019, 06:16:07 PM »
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  • I don't see the point in further drawing attention to the Pfeiffer clown community. It's a waste of time. They're making their beds, and they'll have to sleep in it.
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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #2 on: January 10, 2019, 07:21:55 PM »
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  • What a ridiculous bunch of clowns. 
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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #3 on: January 10, 2019, 07:33:16 PM »
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  • I don't see the point in further drawing attention to the Pfeiffer clown community. It's a waste of time. They're making their beds, and they'll have to sleep in it.
    It may not necessarily be a waste of of time if there are any people still wavering in their support of Fr. Pfeiffer. Look how long it took Tony la Rosa to see.

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #4 on: January 10, 2019, 10:57:42 PM »
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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #5 on: January 10, 2019, 11:07:05 PM »
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  • A hypothetical question: Let's say for a moment Ambrose Moran is a real Catholic archbishop. Does this give him authority to excommunicate? Or does excommunication require jurisdiction?

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #6 on: January 10, 2019, 11:26:34 PM »
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  • What is this the second or third time Tona La Rosa has unfollowed OLMC.  I mean you can't make this stuff up.  I mean you even have to feel a little sorry for them because of this circus.  I still can't believe that Father Hewko is going along with this.  Fr. Pfieffer loses how many people because he insists on keeping the Mexican "exorcist" around and now he loses probably even more because he is so desperate for a "Bishop"?  These poor people who can't wake up and smell the coffee when it is right under your nose.  They need prayers and more prayers.  :facepalm: :pray:

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #7 on: January 10, 2019, 11:33:29 PM »
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  • A hypothetical question: Let's say for a moment Ambrose Moran is a real Catholic archbishop. Does this give him authority to excommunicate? Or does excommunication require jurisdiction?
    This is not even worth considering as a hypothetical with how rampant the, "but what ifs..." are with this guy. He's been proven to be a fraud several times over and people still keep pretending that Fr. Pfeiffer just doesn't realize this. Even if Father were to ditch Ambrose tomorrow, how can anyone not see that Fr. P has been lying to everyone for years and cannot be trusted with ANYTHING.
    "If I could only make the faithful sing the Kyrie, the Gloria, the Credo, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei ... that would be to me the finest triumph sacred music could have, for it is in really taking part in the liturgy that the faithful will preserve their devotion. I would take the Tantum ...


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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #8 on: January 10, 2019, 11:39:50 PM »
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  • This is not even worth considering as a hypothetical with how rampant the, "but what ifs..." are with this guy. He's been proven to be a fraud several times over and people still keep pretending that Fr. Pfeiffer just doesn't realize this. Even if Father were to ditch Ambrose tomorrow, how can anyone not see that Fr. P has been lying to everyone for years and cannot be trusted with ANYTHING.
    Good point. I don't know enough about this, I was just wondering. :)

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #9 on: January 11, 2019, 01:21:46 AM »
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  • It just means...



    Tony is now outside the Pablo/Pfeiferdom church.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #10 on: January 11, 2019, 01:34:10 AM »
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  • It may not necessarily be a waste of time if there are any people still wavering in their support of Fr. Pfeiffer. Look how long it took Tony la Rosa to see.

    This (what Mr G said)^^^

    Plus, I heard there are more seminarians this year than ever before (15 I was told).
    Does anyone know if this is true? If so, Fr P must still have quite a few supporters.


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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #11 on: January 11, 2019, 07:35:09 AM »
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  • It may not necessarily be a waste of time if there are any people still wavering in their support of Fr. Pfeiffer. Look how long it took Tony la Rosa to see.

    This (what Mr G said)^^^

    Plus, I heard there are more seminarians this year than ever before (15 I was told).
    Does anyone know if this is true? If so, Fr P must still have quite a few supporters.

    Many lies generated from the Pfeiffer farm these days.
    You must ask, who are your seminarians and how can you feed them?
    Maybe Paul Hernandez will called federal authorities to demand Mexican refugee relief supplies?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #12 on: January 11, 2019, 08:07:23 AM »
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  • What a ridiculous bunch of clowns.  
    Indeed.
    Fr. Pfeiffer's cult OLMC has become a three ring circus.
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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 09:02:11 AM »
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  • If they had 15 seminarians they would be taking pictures and advertising all over the place.  No way! No way 15 families have sent their lads to an endless seminary.  

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    Re: Tony La Rosa "excommunicated" by Ambrose Moran
    « Reply #14 on: January 11, 2019, 09:12:57 AM »
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    A hypothetical question: Let's say for a moment Ambrose Moran is a real Catholic archbishop. Does this give him authority to excommunicate? Or does excommunication require jurisdiction?
    Yes, he'd have to have jurisdiction, imo.  The emergency canons of the code allow priests/bishops to provide the sacraments in cases of necessity or emergency, for the good of the faithful.  Outside of this, they have no canonical status.

     

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