If a group of 4 men were lost in the deep woods, trying to survive, not having perfect information about their situation (distance to nearest town, location of any other people in the area, etc.)
there might be disagreement about the best course of action.
Some might want to head north, some might want to head east, some might want to stay put and wait for a rescue team. Can the person who wants to head West accuse the man who wants to head North of bad will, or wanting to die? There is confusion and lack of full information; they all just want to survive, but they might have different ideas about how to best accomplish that.
How this applies to the Crisis in the Church should be obvious.
I actually read one prominent Trad mock the above statement, saying "Equals, there is no truth, so each do what one feels is right, because they are all right."
YOU BET! When it comes to the Crisis, there is no truth, at least none that we can brandish and condemn each other with. As I've said a million times, Our Lord and Our Blessed Mother have not yet made their opinions known on the Crisis in any recent apparitions. So we're all left to our own devices here.
The best we can hope for is a well-researched, prudential LIKELIHOOD, or MOST PROBABLE -- enough to act on. But we can't have the certainty of Faith on this. How would we ever get the certainty of Faith on this? Is the Pope going to rule on which Trad group is favored by God?
I've seen serious, intelligent, holy Catholics of good will fervently push Sedevacantism, R&R, etc. I've even seen some push Conservative Catholic/Indult position.
It's not for us to condemn this or that Traditional Catholic as being non-Catholic. Once you accept such behavior, you end up with the Dimond Brothers -- excommunicating everyone they disagree with. You see a similar thing in Pfeifferville.So when I talk about "Trad-cuмenism" or say that I embrace the same, I'm talking about a rejection of Schism. I refuse to cut off communion with Catholics who are objectively part of the Mystical Body of Christ.I will not mistake confusion in the Church or material error with malicious heresy!
Another said:
Fr. Michael Muller - The Church and Her Enemies:
"It is impious to say, ' I respect every religion.' This is as much to say: I respect the devil as much as I respect God, vice as much as virtue, falsehood as much as truth, dishonesty as much as honesty, Hell as much as Heaven."
This same straight-forward kind of talk applies very well to the ecuмenical mindset that permeates even traditional circles. There can only be one true Catholic Faith. There cannot be flavors of belief. There can be different approved rites. But even those different rites all have the same beliefs. There is always a common denominator of the true faith.
All this trad-ecuмenism is a temptest and distraction of Hell. It is the proverbial 'dialoging' of Vatican II. 'All religions have something to offer.'
False. The Catholic Church is the only true Church. The Catholic Faith is the only true Faith - unadulterated.
Who's talking about different religions? We're not talking about ACTUAL EcuмENISM here...but TRAD-cuмENISM. Huge difference! There is only one True Faith, but within the bounds of that True Faith, which Trad group is preferred by God?
Nobody knows. So we respect them all. Not all false religions, just all Trad Catholic groups!
Moron!
We all started out a bunch of Catholics drowning in the ocean.
A group of Catholics who opted to climb into a different TEMPORARY LIFEBOAT than me do not deserve to be treated as condemned heretics, excommunicated
vitandi (to-be-avoided) ex-Catholics.
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