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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2018, 12:36:47 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 25, 2018, 11:22:06 AM
I've known many people who have been denied Holy Communion or banned from hearing mass because they would not hold 'sedevacantism'.

Really?  I've known no one who was denied the Sacraments for this reason.  I've known it to happen to Feeneyites.  CMRI, SSPV, and most sede groups openly tolerate non-sedevacantist views.  You only have a couple small enclaves of radicals (e.g. +Sanborn, Fr. Cekada, etc.) who MAY do this, though even in their case I have no knowledge of them ever having done so.  I may be wrong on that though.
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Offline Meg

Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2018, 01:17:17 PM »
Quote from: King Wenceslas on April 25, 2018, 12:57:37 PM
Ultimately this will end in the Traditionalist movement becoming home aloners if not some becoming atheists. Home alone has become significant in the Post Falls area and is growing. Divide and then exterminate. The devils venom is doing its job.

I didn't know that home alone has become a significant problem in Post Falls. There must be a general confusion among many there.

I now have to wonder if maybe Bp. Fellay was right when he talked about the risk of schism by staying away from Rome. Not that I'm for reconciliation, but the schismatic mentality is getting stronger among trads, if this forum is any indication.

Many trads don't seem to have the ability anymore to stay with what +ABL wisely taught, since the SSPX changed it's course, and the sedes have infiltrated trad ranks. Between the two factors, it's a sad situation.
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Offline hismajesty

Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2018, 03:56:58 PM »
Quote from: King Wenceslas on April 25, 2018, 12:57:37 PM
Ultimately this will end in the Traditionalist movement becoming home aloners if not some becoming atheists. Home alone has become significant in the Post Falls area and is growing. Divide and then exterminate. The devils venom is doing its job.


Where there is no resistance Mass a Catholic should stay at home.

This has nothing to do with sedevacantism or liberalism. It is simply catholic moral theology that you cannot attend the Mass of a heretic.

The SSPX are formally aligned with the conciliar church which makes them modernist heretics.

There is no two ways to fudge this. It is the truth.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2018, 04:25:59 PM »
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Where there is no resistance Mass a Catholic should stay at home.
One has an obligation to attend a valid, licit and moral mass, under pain of hell, regardless of the priest's views (assuming he's a valid priest).  The resistance masses are not the only masses.

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This has nothing to do with sedevacantism or liberalism. It is simply catholic moral theology that you cannot attend the Mass of a heretic.
If you're talking about the novus ordo mass, I agree, it's heretical.  Outside of this, you're being extreme.

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The SSPX are formally aligned with the conciliar church which makes them modernist heretics.
The SSPX is very close to being 'red lighted' in my opinion, but not yet.  Sunday masses, by and large, still fulfill one's sunday obligation, even if the sermon is full of propaganda and the church is full of sheeple.  Until the sspx formally becomes indult, and outside of marriage masses where the novus ordo "priests" are involved, I would attend if I had to.  The obligation to honor God through a valid and pleasing Mass outweighs any ancillary questionable orthodoxy. 
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Offline Mr G

Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2018, 04:33:36 PM »
http://tradcatresist.blogspot.ie/

by Don Curzio Nitoglia

Due to the actions of Pope Francis (and arguably Bishop Fellay's trajectory i.e the refusal of the SSPX to loudly condemn those actions) sedevacantism has made great gains throughout tradition over the last couple of years.

Personally, I have never known as many people question a Pope's legitimacy, and never expected that even conservative Catholic's would be asking the same thing.

Perhaps due to a combination of a conspiratorial nature, and ahem "quirkiness" that one finds in the resistance, the question of sedevacantism has now begun to divide cleric and layman alike. This is only to be expected, if one has left behind a "comfortable" existence with the SSPX for 'refusing to compromise with error' then one can hardly blame people for 'blowing a gasket' when they find themselves fighting needless arguments within a remnant of a remnant.

http://tradcatresist.blogspot.ie/
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