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Ladislaus · « **Reply #50 on:** April 25, 2018, 11:06:55 AM »

Quote from: JmJ2cents on April 24, 2018, 11:34:32 PM

Are people turning to sedevacantism because of your forum?

Hardly. My experience is that once people have chosen their position (R&R, sedevacantist, etc.) they RARELY move but attack the other side tooth and nail.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #51 on:** April 25, 2018, 11:14:54 AM »

Quote from: Meg on April 25, 2018, 10:38:56 AM

Here's a recent article from Sean Johnson's blog, which features an excerpt from a conference given by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1980.

Selective point-in-time snapshot. It's well known that +Lefebvre went back and forth on the question over the years. He had a renewed optimism after the election of Wojtyla ... since Montini had become hostile. But a few years later, around the time of Assisi he came a hair's breadth away from becoming publicly sedevacantist.

For a more balanced/objective view (in which you are obviously not interested) of his attitude towards sedevacantism, see here:
http://www.fathercekada.com/2012/09/04/pro-sedevacantism-quotes-from-abp-lefebvre/

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #52 on:** April 25, 2018, 11:22:06 AM »

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If a traditional Catholic wants to believe that Francis isn't the pope, then fine. It's not that big a deal. What is a big deal is when they insist that all trads must hold that view, or that they must hold the view that Francis is the Pope, but he doesn't have jurisdiction.

My motivation is to fight the 'dogmatic' sede view, which is growing. This dogmatic, excessive and self-authoritarian stance is causing division in families, churches and in tradition. I've known many people who have been denied Holy Communion or banned from hearing mass because they would not hold 'sedevacantism'. This has been going on for decades, but it is growing in some areas (and Fr Cekada is a big cause). This type of stuff is supremely uncharitable and sinful (for its uncharity, for its denial of mass/sacraments, and for its schismatic-like "church rules") and the devil loves it.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #53 on:** April 25, 2018, 11:25:16 AM »

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No, it is absolutely "TRULY IMPORTANT" to determine if these men are popes.

It's an unanswerable question. No one's opinion outside of the Church's decision matters. At best, one can come up with a 'high probability' for x, y or z, but there will never be certainty until the Church says so. Hence, outside of a fun, intellectual debate, or to correct extreme views (i.e. the "una cuм" ridiculousness), it's a waste of time.

Meg · « **Reply #54 on:** April 25, 2018, 11:29:58 AM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 25, 2018, 11:22:06 AM

My motivation is to fight the 'dogmatic' sede view, which is growing. This dogmatic, excessive and self-authoritarian stance is causing division in families, churches and in tradition. I've known many people who have been denied Holy Communion or banned from hearing mass because they would not hold 'sedevacantism'. This has been going on for decades, but it is growing in some areas (and Fr Cekada is a big cause). This type of stuff is supremely uncharitable and sinful (for its uncharity, for its denial of mass/sacraments, and for its schismatic-like "church rules") and the devil loves it.

Yes, exactly! And yes, the devil loves it. And the sedes are alright with that, apparently. They seem to enjoy the division that they cause.

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