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Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #45 on: April 24, 2018, 09:54:22 AM »
These Irishmen are such emotional chaps:

1) The sede who was teaching in Econe was teaching in the 1970s, at a time when the world had not yet seen their true colors...and was later expelled for "causing trouble;"

2) But he, like all sedes, was so sure of himself (and full of himself) that he went and got himself consecrated a bishop...if it was valid;

3) BTW, way to have twice as many down-thumbs as thumbs-up: It means most people think you are a total jackass.

Whatungarongaro te tangata toitū te whenua

As man disappears from sight, the land remains
 - Maori proverb


True that many of them cause trouble, but they have been tolerated nonetheless since then also. My point still stands.

It doesn't mean you have to go to the opposite extreme of trying to create a parallel church, which one user made clear already you want to do.

Bit rich to try to make out that I am being the one who is a jackass....


Offline Matthew

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Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #46 on: April 24, 2018, 10:46:01 AM »
He thinks that Bishop Williamson sits at home and listens to Beethoven all day.

That is what he said on his website.

His forum failed because he and sean are partially mentally unstable, and also very closed minded to new ideas (such as flat earth, but not limited to that.)

This is the crux of the problem.

Samuel, based on where he lives, has got to be at least part Irish. But what I know for sure is that he's big on action and is probably Choleric in temperament (a trait he shares with Sean Johnson, I might add)

Now the action part CAN BE good, when paired with patience. But all too many "action" types are just doing it because that's the only way to satisfy their temperament. They are doing it for purely human reasons -- for example, Fr. Pfeiffer. No one can say he wasn't "getting stuff done" and a man of action. The problem was, he had no patience and was overly attached to his own desires and ambitions. His own ambition got mixed up in his Catholic Action, to the point that he started embracing a fraudulent "bishop" and multiple priests tainted by scandal of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, perversion, etc.

The devil also tempted him (successfully) to attack his fellow priests and even bishops, when they went against his desires and ambition for power. Samuel should take note of this point, and beware for his own soul's sake.

Figuratively speaking, Samuel wants to gather a group of fighters, going from glen to glen, over hill and dale, gathering an army of tall and stout Irishmen bearing pikes, slowly but surely, growing larger by day, culminating in a great and glorious battle to win territory and freedom for the Resistance.

Anything short of this causes him frustration and impatience.

The fact he's also frustrated with +Williamson shows I'm at least in good company.


Offline Meg

Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #47 on: April 24, 2018, 10:51:16 AM »
If a traditional Catholic wants to believe that Francis isn't the pope, then fine. It's not that big a deal. What is a big deal is when they insist that all trads must hold that view, or that they must hold the view that Francis is the Pope, but he doesn't have jurisdiction. The lack of jurisdiction is the fashionable sede view of late. They shouldn't be pushing this on everyone.

Does it really matter? We are all trying to get through the Crisis as best we can. IMO, the sedes and sedewhatevers just muddy the waters. They take time away from things that are truly important, and that which we can have control over - such as our salvation, and the acknowledgement of Christ our King. There isn't anything we can do about whether or not the Pope is the Pope. Why waste time on it?

Pushing the sede or sedewhatever view is a distraction away from what is truly important. They are obsessive. And ornery. 


Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #48 on: April 24, 2018, 11:23:20 AM »

The fact he's also frustrated with +Williamson shows I'm at least in good company.

Well I don't think we should be frustrated at all with the Bishop.

I don't agree with his thoughts on the Novus Ordo, but that is not something to be frustrated over. At his age we can just let it pass.

What I wish is people would listen to certain of his reflections more often, instead of their own notions.

I agree with the rest of your post.

Offline Meg

Re: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo
« Reply #49 on: April 25, 2018, 10:38:56 AM »
Here's a recent article from Sean Johnson's blog, which features an excerpt from a conference given by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1980. +ABL describes the problem with sedevacantism, and its inherent divisiveness. The interaction between +ABL and a sedevacantist is also given at the end, which is an example of the inherent divisiveness of sedevacantism. +ABL refused to give a public platform to the sede, and refused to talk to him during the conference. He invited the sede instead to talk to him after the conference. That's not very ecuмenical of him! 

http://sodalitium-pianum.com/the-inherent-divisiveness-of-sedevacantism/