Author Topic: To those frustrated with non-Resistance Catholics on CathInfo (Read 9704 times)

King Wenceslas · « **Reply #30 on:** April 23, 2018, 01:11:12 PM »

Those who hold the position that there have been no popes since 1958 should be permanently banned. Holding the position that there have been no popes since then makes one a non-catholic. Even if this means that traffic here reduces almost to zero. Truth is truth and needs to be defended.

Meg · « **Reply #31 on:** April 23, 2018, 02:14:03 PM »

Quote from: klasG4e on April 23, 2018, 02:04:56 PM

It certainly seems that way if you bring up anything about the Red Sea Pedestrians.

At p. 192 in Against the Heresies, we find the Archbishop stating: "The Jєωs are manifestly against Christ." They are also the elephant in the room even though that room is sometimes the one on CathInfo.

Can you explain more about Red Sea Pedestrians? I've not heard that phrase before.

Jєωs are of course against Christ, but I think that the Jєωs have also themselves been manipulated by the Luciferian agenda. Lucifer uses whoever he can to bring about the downfall of the One True Church. And it's not only Jєωs, though they have played a big part.

Mr G · « **Reply #32 on:** April 23, 2018, 02:36:36 PM »

Quote from: Meg on April 23, 2018, 02:14:03 PM

Can you explain more about Red Sea Pedestrians? I've not heard that phrase before.

Jєωs are of course against Christ, but I think that the Jєωs have also themselves been manipulated by the Luciferian agenda. Lucifer uses whoever he can to bring about the downfall of the One True Church. And it's not only Jєωs, though they have played a big part.

Look here:
https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/bishop-williamson-on-the-red-sea-pedestrians/

kiwiboy · « **Reply #33 on:** April 23, 2018, 03:13:16 PM »

Quote from: Meg on April 23, 2018, 02:14:03 PM

Can you explain more about Red Sea Pedestrians? I've not heard that phrase before.

Jєωs are of course against Christ, but I think that the Jєωs have also themselves been manipulated by the Luciferian agenda. Lucifer uses whoever he can to bring about the downfall of the One True Church. And it's not only Jєωs, though they have played a big part.

Red Sea Pedestrians is a euphemism for Jєωs. I don't like this expression. The Jєωs of the old testament were God's chosen people. Now it is Catholics.

It is Post-Crucifixion Jєωs who are the ones who are evil.

2Vermont · « **Reply #34 on:** April 23, 2018, 03:25:05 PM »

Quote from: King Wenceslas on April 23, 2018, 01:11:12 PM

Those who hold the position that there have been no popes since 1958 should be permanently banned. Holding the position that there have been no popes since then makes one a non-catholic. Even if this means that traffic here reduces almost to zero. Truth is truth and needs to be defended.

No, dogmatic sedeplenists like yourself should be banned.

forlorn · « **Reply #35 on:** April 23, 2018, 03:26:31 PM »

Quote from: Meg on April 23, 2018, 02:14:03 PM

Can you explain more about Red Sea Pedestrians? I've not heard that phrase before.

Jєωs are of course against Christ, but I think that the Jєωs have also themselves been manipulated by the Luciferian agenda. Lucifer uses whoever he can to bring about the downfall of the One True Church. And it's not only Jєωs, though they have played a big part.

Jesus warned us about modern тαℓмυdic Judaism in the Bible and told us exactly what you suggested, that it would be Satanic:

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Revelations 3:9

I will make those who are of the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan, who claim to be Jєωs though they are not, but are liars--I will make them come and fall down at your feet and acknowledge that I have loved you.

Modern "Jєωs" are not the real Jєωs of the Old Testament. That religion is extinct, having been superseded by Christianity. All Jєωs in the time of Christ either converted to Christianity or followed the Pharisees down the path to perdition. It was the Pharisees after all who were behind the тαℓмυd, that blasphemous book that say unspeakable things Our Lord and the Virgin Mary.

Matthew · « **Reply #36 on:** April 23, 2018, 09:07:47 PM »

Quote from: 2Vermont on April 22, 2018, 08:43:43 PM

Think about it: anyone with simplistic thinking or strong emotion (emotion stronger than reasoning ability) is already sedevacantist. Almost all of those who are more prudent, educated, circuмspect, practical minded, etc. went with the SSPX (a thin sliver of these educated, prudent, non-hothead types became sedevacantist -- these are the sedevacantists you find on CathInfo, for the most part).

Matthew, although I appreciate that you feel this way about those of us who post here, how do you know that most sedevacantists aren't just like those of us who post here? I.e. Educated, prudent, not-hothead types, etc? Every Catholic I know took the sedevacantist position after much research, thought and prayer.

I've met many over the years.

Let's set all the sedevacantists you and I know aside for the moment. Let's take a group of people who ARE emotional (emotion can be anger, frustration, disgust, etc.), and/or who like a clear-cut, cut-and-dried, simple solution. I assure you such people exist, and many of them are Catholic, and some are even Trad. Now which position are they likely to gravitate towards? I'd say Sedevacantism.

Perhaps sedevacantists are just another example of the 90% rule -- 90% of everything is crap. 90% of music, 90% of movies, 90% of books, 90% of Catholics are Catholic in name only, 90% of Trads are worldly and ignorant, 90% of websites are completely worthless, etc...

Even if CathInfo had 200 good sedevacantists (I doubt it's that many), that would still be 0 to 5% of the total.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #37 on:** April 23, 2018, 09:26:05 PM »

Quote from: kiwiboy on April 23, 2018, 03:22:33 PM

You're a LYING, LIAR, who lies....

The archbishop had a sedevacantist teaching in Econe. So long as they don't cause trouble, they are tolerated.

Probably because that is the best way to win them over.

You're insansity helps no one. Are you wondering why your forum flopped?

Anyway, I think Sean needs you in the batmobile.....

These Irishmen are such emotional chaps:

1) The sede who was teaching in Econe was teaching in the 1970s, at a time when the world had not yet seen their true colors...and was later expelled for "causing trouble;"

2) But he, like all sedes, was so sure of himself (and full of himself) that he went and got himself consecrated a bishop...if it was valid;

3) BTW, way to have twice as many down-thumbs as thumbs-up: It means most people think you are a total jackass.

Matthew · « **Reply #38 on:** April 23, 2018, 09:59:29 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on April 23, 2018, 09:37:54 PM

Matthew could care less about that.

He has said so many times.

Just because I love and defend the truth doesn't mean I ban everyone who disagrees with me on this or that topic.

Loving truth, in the context of a forum owner, doesn't mean creating an "echo chamber" forum. I'm not interested in running a micro-forum and/or echo chamber. I'll leave others to that.

I'll run the BIG forum people keep coming back to, even when they hate it. (I'm sure you can relate to that.) CathInfo is the forum people post on when they want to raise money for a young widow with children, or get signatures to protest the latest sacrilege, or seek advice about a very specific situation -- in short, the forum where the people are.

And I want CathInfo to be a discussion forum where you can, well, discuss! ...and without having to look over your shoulder constantly for a ban hammer.

All that having been said, everyone who's been on CI for longer than 3 weeks knows I don't tolerate everyone or everything here. That wouldn't even be possible. There are some who simply won't live in peace with anyone who disagrees with them about anything. They go off on anyone and everyone, and produce nothing good but annoy everyone. And anyone who considers the forum to be a den of non-Catholics is quickly shown the door. Anyone who thinks the Catholic Church was rotten long before Vatican II (a.k.a. "malcontents" or "anti-Catholics") are also not welcome here. Dimond Brothers fans pretty much have to keep their opinion to themselves if they value their CI membership... And most Pfeifferites, due to having "learned from the best", can't get along with other Catholics and are quick to excommunicate all and sundry who aren't part of their cult.

And that's to say nothing of anyone who is manifestly heretical, such as the Manichean heretic "heitanen" who believes sex (even between married persons) is dirty or bad. He has a whole website with a lot of content spouting his heresies, complete with a whole page castigating me by name (after I banned him, of course).

Like I said...CathInfo is plenty moderated. I wish I had a nickel for every one I had to ban. But just about every one of them was practically *begging* for it, that's the funny thing. With a few exceptions (I am human after all), "when in doubt I don't ban".

P.S.
Click on the latest member to join -- member #5887. And yet CI only has 3347 (non-banned) members. The remainder were either trimmed from the database (years ago, when I was trying to make the site run faster -- these were defunct accounts obviously) and/or they were banned over the years. It just goes to show you how "many are called, but few are chosen."

CathInfo is not a free-for-all. It's just the best Trad forum out there, both free (as in beer) and free (as in liberty).

forlorn · « **Reply #39 on:** April 24, 2018, 05:15:34 AM »

Quote from: Samuel on April 24, 2018, 02:08:32 AM

From "The Imitation of Christ", by St. Thomas a Kempis:

This is the greatest wisdom—to seek the kingdom of heaven through contempt of the world. It is vanity, therefore, to seek and trust in riches that perish. It is vanity also to court honor and to be puffed up with pride. It is vanity to follow the lusts of the body and to desire things for which severe punishment later must come. It is vanity to wish for a long life and to care little about a well-spent life. It is vanity to be concerned with the present only and not to make provision for things to come. It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides.
..
What good is it to live a long life when we amend that life so little? Indeed, a long life does not always benefit us, but on the contrary, frequently adds to our guilt. Would that in this world we had lived well throughout one single day. Many count up the years they have spent in religion but find their lives made little holier. If it is so terrifying to die, it is nevertheless possible that to live longer is more dangerous. Blessed is he who keeps the moment of death ever before his eyes and prepares for it every day.

Wake up Matthew. You pride yourself in running the "biggest and bestest" Trad forum, but the way you measure your forum's success is not the way God measures success. Allow me to paraphrase St. Thomas a Kempis:

It is vanity to run a big forum, and to care little about it being a good forum.

Many count the years they have spent on this forum but find their lives made little holier.

Instead of giving another beautiful sermon, please take some time out to think about it.

No need to ban me, as this was my last post here anyway.

God bless,

Samuel

Arrogant fool is all anyone has to say to this. Just because you lost an argument you demand all opposing viewpoints be banned, instead of trying to convince others of the correctness of your position.
If you're going to get all moralistic and call everyone you dislike the spawn of Satan, maybe you ought to look closer at yourself. Matthew has provided an excellent platform for the discussion of Traditional Catholicism, and he's allowed respectful non-Resistance to post so that they may be convinced of their errors. If they are disrespectful and imposing, they get banned. What he's doing is the work of an Evangelist. What you're doing is the cowardice of someone too ill-educated to argue his views, so you demand everyone who disagrees be banned.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #40 on:** April 24, 2018, 07:13:56 AM »

We have had bad Popes in the past along with bad times of sin in the world too.

If we look at Archbishop LeFebvre, we see a Holy Priest who loves Jesus and His Church. The Consecrations in 1988 forced Rome to "allow" the Latin Mass within dioceses. I tried to find Archbishop Lefebvre after watching the Consecrations on tv with my parents. I asked priests from our area who said SSPX was schismatic freaks or they didn't know. At that point I was busy trying to survive economically.

We all come from various back grounds. But we are all Catholic trying survive.

Matthew · « **Reply #41 on:** April 24, 2018, 08:16:08 AM »

Quote from: Samuel on April 24, 2018, 02:08:32 AM

Wake up Matthew. You pride yourself in running the "biggest and bestest" Trad forum, but the way you measure your forum's success is not the way God measures success. Allow me to paraphrase St. Thomas a Kempis:

It is vanity to run a big forum, and to care little about it being a good forum.

Samuel

1. Is this your real final post, or is it like your previous "final post", or the "final post" before that one?
Also, I never said "biggest and bestest". Your use of quotation marks seems to claim that I did. That is false.

2. CathInfo happens to be both a big forum AND a good forum. I just hold different opinions re: how a Catholic forum should be run.
Just because a forum is large doesn't necessarily mean it's bad OR good. Same goes for a tiny forum. Most non-Catholic cults have a pretty small membership; does that mean they are the faithful remnant?

3. Wanting to ban all your opposition, or those with opinions that differ from your own, is indeed "the easy way out" and that is not always the highest path!

4. Just because I disagree with your personal opinions or personal standards (about forum moderation) does NOT mean I am asleep and/or offending God.

I'm only offending YOU and my eyes are quite wide open.

I've read a lot of Catholic literature, and nowhere have I ever seen it said that it's sinful to allow "sedevacantists" on an Internet message board. Has the Church ever ruled on this? I doubt it!

My point is that it's a matter of prudence. You have no law (sitting above both of us) which allows you to condemn me. All you can say is that my personal opinion contradicts your personal opinion.

"Big deal!" I say.

forlorn · « **Reply #42 on:** April 24, 2018, 08:45:25 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on April 24, 2018, 05:45:34 AM

Translation:
The sedes know flattery and traffic (appealing to vanity) will influence Matthew to keep CI a sedevacantist forum.

A sedevacantist forum where sedes are frequently banned is a very odd forum altogether.

Matthew · « **Reply #43 on:** April 24, 2018, 08:57:35 AM »

Samuel is hardly an impartial observer in this matter; he is quite involved in the Resistance with media sites of his own. He has run his own forum (ABL3.0) which never got beyond 120 or so members. In other words, he would LOVE to own a forum the size of CathInfo so he could spend one day banning all the sedevacantists and others who disagree with him. I'm sure it would be very cathartic for him. But he would be left with ABL 3.0 again (as far as forum size). hahaha

He also has started other website endeavors, but because of his temperament (etc.) he gets discouraged and gives up on them, or at least wants to.

I make it look easy by running the same forum, under the same structure, rules and management for TWELVE YEARS and counting. But the fact is that most websites don't last. The owners lose interest, get busy, get discouraged at how long it takes to build up traffic, or they get frustrated at the number one challenge of running a Trad forum: having to deal with so many flawed TRAD CATHOLICS.

kiwiboy · « **Reply #44 on:** April 24, 2018, 09:36:00 AM »

Quote from: Matthew on April 24, 2018, 08:57:35 AM

Samuel is hardly an impartial observer in this matter; he is quite involved in the Resistance with media sites of his own. He has run his own forum (ABL3.0) which never got beyond 120 or so members. In other words, he would LOVE to own a forum the size of CathInfo so he could spend one day banning all the sedevacantists and others who disagree with him. I'm sure it would be very cathartic for him. But he would be left with ABL 3.0 again (as far as forum size). hahaha

He also has started other website endeavors, but because of his temperament (etc.) he gets discouraged and gives up on them.

I make it look easy by running the same forum, under the same structure, rules and management for TWELVE YEARS and counting. But the fact is that most websites don't last. The owners lose interest, get busy, get discouraged at how long it takes to build up traffic, etc.

He thinks that Bishop Williamson sits at home and listens to Beethoven all day.

That is what he said on his website.

His forum failed because he and sean are partially mentally unstable, and also very closed minded to new ideas (such as flat earth, but not limited to that.)

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King Wenceslas

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