Author Topic: To Pablo (Read 21738 times)

padrepio · « **Reply #10 on:** March 02, 2013, 07:16:51 PM »

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I think it is time that Fr. Pfeiffer is made aware of the scandalous manner you are behaving on this board (at least occasionally read by most if not virtually all people considering supporting the Resistance priests' efforts) and request that he correct you.

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You are not being accurate. Fr. Pfeiffer just instructed us this week to contact you with and for information for the website. Just a couple weeks ago, you went into a rage because we didn't sufficiently give YOU all the details about His Lordship's visit.

If you had contact with Fr. Pfeiffer, then why didn't you mention your problems to him at that time?

I propose we contact Fr. Pfeiffer and tell him the benefits we've received because of pablo, and complain about those who post crazy things that put this type of fight on the internet.

For Greater Glory · « **Reply #11 on:** March 02, 2013, 07:35:47 PM »

Padrepio,
I agree. I wonder if people might use Pablo as an excuse not to come into the resistance. You have to see things because they are Gods' truths. When I first went to the SSPX chapel, I was scandalized by a few people who liked to imbibe alcohol quite a bit. But I had to recognize that God wanted me there for the right reasons and to take my focus off of others.

hollingsworth · « **Reply #12 on:** March 02, 2013, 09:07:53 PM »

Bernadette: Thank you very much.

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Some are more vocal than others. Let's not allow our delicate constitutions to get in the way...why don't the band of delicates get together and politely ask him to stop offending their ears? Perhaps an "Open and non-confrontational Letter to Pablo from the Delicates"?

You still haven't answered my question, Bernadette. What are the cold, hard truths which Pablo reveals, and are difficult for us "Delicates" to accept or deal with? Personally, I think Pablo is a nut, and a dangerous nut at that. Your attempts at sarcasm are rather 'indelicate' themselves, and not very clever either.

He and the rest of you can believe that I, for one, will give Fr. Pfeiffer and earful when he's out here next time. If he doesn't do something to correct this individual's behavior, Fr. Pfeiffer will no longer be able to count on our support. I understand that Pablo has done quite a bit of damage elsewhere, as well. Pablo needs to be reined in, IMO, all of his sacrificial and good service on behalf of that priest notwithstanding. If we give our bodies to be burned and have not charity, it is worthless.

Matthew · « **Reply #13 on:** March 02, 2013, 10:39:18 PM »

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Bernadette: Thank you very much.

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Some are more vocal than others. Let's not allow our delicate constitutions to get in the way...why don't the band of delicates get together and politely ask him to stop offending their ears? Perhaps an "Open and non-confrontational Letter to Pablo from the Delicates"?

You still haven't answered my question, Bernadette. What are the cold, hard truths which Pablo reveals, and are difficult for us "Delicates" to accept or deal with? Personally, I think Pablo is a nut, and a dangerous nut at that. Your attempts at sarcasm are rather 'indelicate' themselves, and not very clever either.
My name is Tim Moore, and I live in Post Falls. If Pablo takes umbrage, he knows where we live. He and the rest of you can believe that I, for one, will give Fr. Pfeiffer and earful when he's out here next time. If he doesn't do something to correct this individual's behavior, Fr. Pfeiffer will no longer be able to count on our support. I understand that Pablo has done quite a bit of damage elsewhere, as well. Pablo needs to be reined in, IMO, all of his sacrificial and good service on behalf of that priest notwithstanding. If we give our bodies to be burned and have not charity, it is worthless.

My sentiments exactly.

Hooray for those who "tell it like it is" and don't mince words. But Pablo does NOT have a monopoly on that.

So all the other members of the Resistance are lily-livered "delicates" who have no cajones? Sorry, I can't grant that. I know plenty of men JUST ON CATHINFO ALONE who prove the falsity of that statement.

Sure, maybe Pablo has done some good. That's why he has a few fans. But he is not being criticized for that. He is criticized for his great and many public faults -- things he posts online -- which cause all kinds of confusion and damage for the Resistance.

He likes to post ambiguous statements. He likes to have the "scoop". He likes to be the center of attention. He comes across a bit unstable/crazy at times (like Monday - Friday and weekends). He wants to be the main organizer or Nexus of the Resistance. He wants a monopoly on all sermon videos. Everything has to be a "Pablo the Mexican production" or it's worth nothing.

And he randomly makes charges and statements that have no basis in reality -- I've seen him do this several times. 2 children baptized by the FSSP? Rejecting poor people from Resistance Mass centers? He just MAKES STUFF UP or just connects things together that don't go together, usually because someone went "over his head" in a matter of Resistance chapel organization. If you insist, I can come up with actual quotes.

He considers everything to be "rogue" if he didn't have a hand in it, or if he wasn't notified or involved.

And let's not forget his recurring lack of respect for a faithful Traditional Bishop -- +Williamson. Remember his favorite jibe, "tea and crumpets"?

Those are the things that seriously bother me about Pablo. It doesn't scandalize me from supporting the Resistance, but eventually the Resistance is going to have to go mainstream (greater than 500 people) and when it does, we're going to have to be concerned with characters like Pablo driving people away.

Matthew · « **Reply #14 on:** March 02, 2013, 11:03:11 PM »

I am not denying any truths (God forbid!), including the good deeds that Pablo has done for God and the Resistance.

Most of his strengths and good deeds are exhibited OFFLINE or IRL, whereas most of his faults are broadcasted to the world ONLINE. I haven't even met Pablo in person (though I've spoken with him by phone), so I haven't seen him "in action".

I'm sure he's made plenty of sacrifices (hopefully known mostly to God alone, so he'll get full merits for them in heaven!)

But sometimes good can be outweighed, mitigated, or even undone by a certain quantity of bad.

A car with a damaged engine is rejected, even if the radio and heater are in top shape. No one wants to hear about how soft an airplane's seats are, if it's missing 3 of its 4 engines.

Bonum ex integra causa, malum ex quocuмque defectu.

"an action is good when it is good in every respect; it is wrong when it is wrong in any respect."

Anyhow, it's because I love the Church (which means loving the Resistance, which is trying to save the Church) that I am forced to admonish Pablo, so he can better himself. I believe he loves the Church and Resistance as well -- but what if he's doing something that's hurting it? Wouldn't he want to change?

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume that he WOULD want to do the right thing.

So, you see, I'm actually quite charitable toward Pablo.