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Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #165 on: October 15, 2023, 09:14:56 PM »
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    • Here is the link to the mass. See it before the SSPX takes it down. By the looks of it they could easily fit the attendees into the Sanford chapel. 

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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #166 on: October 15, 2023, 09:15:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Texana on October 15, 2023, 04:30:36 PM
    SSPX Florida posts video of the sacrilege:  https://www.youtube.com/watch/v=MixKe7-OWYO
    "Confirmations & Pontifical Mass"

    Notice the empty pews for 66 confirmands.  "We are grateful to Father Jeremiah Paine and Bishop Noonan for allowing us to use this large church."

    Bishop Tissier de Mallerais admonishes the confirmands to "fight the enemies of the Church" and "to convert others to the Catholic faith".  Gone are the warnings, "You must fight ze freemasons!  You must fight ze modernists!" we heard Bishop Tissier say years ago.
    This vid is gone.
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #167 on: October 15, 2023, 09:17:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: andy on October 15, 2023, 09:15:03 PM
    This vid is gone.
    The SSPX is scrambling. See the video I posted before it’s gone. 
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #168 on: October 15, 2023, 09:26:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on October 15, 2023, 09:17:27 PM
    The SSPX is scrambling. See the video I posted before it’s gone.
    I see it now. The original link you posted is corrupted. The actual vid is there.
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #169 on: October 15, 2023, 09:37:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on October 15, 2023, 09:14:56 PM
    Here is the link to the mass. See it before the SSPX takes it down. By the looks of it they could easily fit the attendees into the Sanford chapel.



    The announcements by the lay lector at 1:53 amend/correct the earlier report by Gloria.tv, that the two collections went to the diocese and parish: they went to the bishop and the parish.
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #170 on: October 15, 2023, 09:49:44 PM »
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    • Notice at 4:11, a priest in a cassock at the front of the church gets up, walks out into the aisle, and bows instead of genuflecting.  He then walks around talking with various parties until exiting the chapel a minute later (where you can get a pretty good look at his face at 5:50).

    Question: Is that an SSPX priest adopting the irreverent Novus Ordo practice, or a diocesan priest acclimating the SSPX “faithful” to how things are done in the “official” church?
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #171 on: October 15, 2023, 09:56:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 15, 2023, 09:49:44 PM
    Notice at 4:11, a priest in a cassock at the front of the church gets up, walks out into the aisle, and bows instead of genuflecting.  He then walks around talking with various parties until exiting the chapel a minute later (where you can get a pretty good look at his face at 5:50).

    Question: Is that an SSPX priest adopting the irreverent Novus Ordo practice, or a diocesan priest acclimating the SSPX “faithful” to how things are done in the “official” church?
    That’s an SSPX priest. I have never seen an Orlando Diocesan priest ever wear a cassock. 
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #172 on: October 15, 2023, 09:58:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 15, 2023, 09:37:45 PM
    The announcements by the lay lector at 1:53 amend/correct the earlier report by Gloria.tv, that the two collections went to the diocese and parish: they went to the bishop and the parish.
    Wow, you’re right. So that means all the collections go to Noonan and the Novus Ordo Church. 
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #173 on: October 15, 2023, 10:05:39 PM »
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    • Looking at it again I can’t tell if it’s an SSPX priest so I will retract my first statement.  But I’ve never seen a priest in the Orlando diocese wear a cassock. 
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #174 on: October 15, 2023, 10:18:32 PM »
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    • Does anyone know if the priest was bowing instead of genuflecting because the Novus Ordo hosts were removed, and the tabernacle empty?

    Hard to imagine the SSPX requesting, or conciliar priest granting, such a request, when the pretext for using the building is a favor, but just trying to see all possibilities.
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #175 on: October 16, 2023, 12:47:09 AM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on October 15, 2023, 10:05:39 PM
    Looking at it again I can’t tell if it’s an SSPX priest so I will retract my first statement.  But I’ve never seen a priest in the Orlando diocese wear a cassock.
    There are at least two priests in my diocese who regularly wear the cassock out into the secular world.  One of them was having breakfast one morning at Panera Bread while I was there.
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #176 on: October 16, 2023, 04:39:43 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 15, 2023, 10:18:32 PM
    Does anyone know if the priest was bowing instead of genuflecting because the Novus Ordo hosts were removed, and the tabernacle empty?

    Hard to imagine the SSPX requesting, or conciliar priest granting, such a request, when the pretext for using the building is a favor, but just trying to see all possibilities.
    From an email from my priest when I asked about the confirmations in Syracuse being held at a NO church.
    "When we use a church in which the Novus Ordo Mass is celebrated for our Mass, we consecrate hosts for those who communicate at our Mass and do not mix them with those reserved in the tabernacle which could reasonably be presumed to have been consecrated at a Novus Ordo Mass.  This is to avoid any doubts that may arise."
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #177 on: October 16, 2023, 06:52:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: HeavyHanded on October 16, 2023, 04:39:43 AM
    From an email from my priest when I asked about the confirmations in Syracuse being held at a NO church.
    "When we use a church in which the Novus Ordo Mass is celebrated for our Mass, we consecrate hosts for those who communicate at our Mass and do not mix them with those reserved in the tabernacle which could reasonably be presumed to have been consecrated at a Novus Ordo Mass.  This is to avoid any doubts that may arise."

    "This is to avoid any backlash from the faithful who finance our operations."
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #178 on: October 16, 2023, 06:55:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on October 15, 2023, 09:14:56 PM
    Here is the link to the mass. See it before the SSPX takes it down. By the looks of it they could easily fit the attendees into the Sanford chapel.

    I don't know about the size of the Sanford chapel, but this is a constant issue for confirmations, and most chapels just deal with it, reserving spots for the Confirmands, their Sponsors, and their family first ... and the rest are mostly there to experience a Pontifical Mass and are there first-come-first-serve.  This was nothing more than an excuse used to acclimate the faithful to closer cooperation with the Conciliar Church.
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    Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
    « Reply #179 on: October 16, 2023, 09:19:02 AM »
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    • Quote from: CatholicInAmerica on October 15, 2023, 05:11:20 PM
    Hearing credible reports that a Monsignor Castaneda (Novus Ordo) assisted today. Unreal.
    Can confirm. I was present at the Davie FL confirmations. He attended in choro
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