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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2023, 10:54:49 AM »
This ☝️☝️☝️☝️

Not that you are as old as I, but the younger members of this forum, and many young trads in general, have been so indoctrinated with the modern world that they can’t grasp what you are trying to convey.

Novus Ordo revels in such displays, where they show nuns and priests doing absurd secular things like participating in dance contests, rapping, and engaging in all manner of frivolity that is not becoming to their state in life.  As another poster stated, the clerical garb has always been a sign of death to the world and of separate from the world (i.e., sacred-ness), and this admixture of the sacred and the profane borders upon sacrilege against their state in life.  No one is saying that there's anything inherently wrong with riding a roller coaster, just that the public display of such activities is disedifying and is contrary to the dignity of their state in life.  There's nothing sinful about going to the bathroom and doing a number 2, but you wouldn't do that in public either.

This actually is the Vatican II spirit in microcosm, where it shows the Church opening up the "windows" to the world, and blending in with the world, to become more "relevant".

I know an Eastern Rite priest who likes to mix it up with the parishioners, going out drinking with them, bowling, playing basketball with them, etc.  Nobody wants to go to Confession to him, despite his constant attempts to persuade people to go to the Sacrament, and that's because ... who wants to go to Confession to your bowling buddy?  Excessive familiarity breeds contempt and loss of respect.

Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2023, 10:58:46 AM »
Seems childish at best.  I don't know of any men who would call each other up and say, 'let's go to Disneyland and ride the rides!!!'  People of every walk of life need some recreation but grown men going to play on the rides at an 'amusement park'?



Offline Ladislaus

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Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2023, 10:58:50 AM »
I don't see it as sinful for SSPX priests to go to Sea World. It seems Puritanistic to assume that it's sinful. Recreation is not an unreasonable thing for Catholic priests to engage in.

... another one who's lost a sense of the sacred.  It's not about whether recreation is permitted, but about putting priests on public display engaging in frivolity, thereby creating disedification and loss of respect for the clerical state.  They should not engage in such public displays.  You're confusing retaining a sense of the sacred with "Puritanism".

Offline Meg

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« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2023, 11:01:04 AM »
... another one who's lost a sense of the sacred.

Are Catholic priests never allowed recreation? Are they to spend every minute of every day in prayer and reflection? How much prayer and reflection do you do every day? 

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2023, 11:03:30 AM »
Seems childish at best.  I don't know of any men who would call each other up and say, 'let's go to Disneyland and ride the rides!!!'  People of every walk walk of life need recreation in some form but grown men going to play on the rides at an 'amusement park'?

Right, and combine that childishness with their state in life ...