Author Topic: +Tissier to Offer Confirmations in Novus Ordo Church (Read 23827 times)

Ladislaus · « **Reply #40 on:** October 06, 2023, 06:12:51 AM »

Quote from: trento on October 06, 2023, 01:28:15 AM

I agree on the nothing intrinsically immoral part. What is your opinion then about smoking?

There's probably some cultural relativity there. Smoking USED to be considered sophisticated/cool/adult ... and has only after years and billions of dollars of ads come to be considered low-class or boorish. Priest should avoid anything that derogates from the dignity of the priesthood, and so probably should avoid smoking in public. They should also avoid smelling like smoke, especially during Mass. I knew an old priest whose smokey fingers altered the taste of the Hosts when he distributed Communion. But nothing inherently evil. St. Pius X used a variation on snuff, and Leo XIII was famous for his cocaine wine.

Afonso · « **Reply #41 on:** October 06, 2023, 07:14:22 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 04, 2023, 07:54:39 AM

Even sacraments by an Eastern Orthodox priest are acceptable in grave necessity. As usual, your absolutist claims pass over in ignorance the exceptions.

This needs some clarification. Only necessary sacraments can be sought: baptism, penance & extreme unction. Which is another reason why you can’t attend the NOM.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #42 on:** October 06, 2023, 07:58:26 AM »

Quote from: trento on October 06, 2023, 01:35:51 AM

So it's not so private after all, when the pictures have been made public.

You’re struggling…and sinking.

Can you imagine what Lefebvre would have said about rollercoasting priests?

Would Pagliarani have even dared to ask his permission (the thought alone makes one blush).

If you can’t distinguish a qualitative difference between rollercoasting priests at theme parks, and soccer on seminary grounds, I’m certain I can’t help you.

And you’re even willing to dismiss St. Pius X to defend this nonsense. Wow.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #43 on:** October 06, 2023, 08:36:10 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson on October 06, 2023, 07:58:26 AM

If you can’t distinguish a qualitative difference between rollercoasting priests at theme parks ...

especially when you factor in that they're milling around among scantily-dressed females.

Giovanni Berto · « **Reply #44 on:** October 06, 2023, 09:52:16 AM »

Quote from: Ladislaus on October 06, 2023, 06:12:51 AM

There's probably some cultural relativity there. Smoking USED to be considered sophisticated/cool/adult ... and has only after years and billions of dollars of ads come to be considered low-class or boorish. Priest should avoid anything that derogates from the dignity of the priesthood, and so probably should avoid smoking in public. They should also avoid smelling like smoke, especially during Mass. I knew an old priest whose smokey fingers altered the taste of the Hosts when he distributed Communion. But nothing inherently evil. St. Pius X used a variation on snuff, and Leo XIII was famous for his cocaine wine.

That is an interesting discussion.

It seems to me that smoking cigarettes is seem as a bad habit and would make the priest appear mundane and frivolous, while a priest smoking a cigar would be seen as a luxury loving man.

Now, a priest smoking a pipe would look like some sort of very intelligent and intellectual cleric.

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