You could apply tutiorism to avoid priests ordained by +Lefebvre because of the ridiculous Tisserant-mason allegations.  But the questions is whether the allegations are real and well founded, and rise to the level of positive doubt.  They do not in the Tisserant allegation, nor do they in the allegations against Thuc.

Thank you.  It seems that this topic comes up over and over again regarding the Thuc and the Lefebrve ordinations...whether it's here or another forum.  However, it's usually because someone new to the topic brings it up.  

May I ask why you detest the CMRI?
If you don't want to answer here, a private message will do.

Oh, I've stated this openly before ... so it's no secret.  I don't like their undermining and watering down of Catholic EENS dogma as well as their promotion of NFP.

Oh, I've stated this openly before ... so it's no secret.  I don't like their undermining and watering down of Catholic EENS dogma as well as their promotion of NFP.

I spent years away from CI so I'm not up on the latest.
Thank you.

That said, if a stranger showed up to my door out of the blue, and claimed the Virgin Mary had sent them to rush me off to be consecrated, you would be fully justified in questioning my mental capacity if my response was, “Let me pack my bag!”

Define mental capacity.  Yes, I might think that you're nuts, colloquially speaking, or, rather, extremely gullible ... but would I say that you couldn't validly go make a good Confession?  Those two are separate issues.

Hey, I think it's just as crazy to support the visions of one "Dawn Marie" ... and also Garabandal or Valtorta, but that doesn't make me believe that +Williamson is crazy to the point of not being able to validly ordain.  To be perfectly honest, if Dawn Marie had gone to +Williamson and told him to ordain someone a priest or consecrate another a bishop, I am not entirely certain that he would not have complied.  And, even if he had, I would just listen to him speak for 5 minutes and realize that he's certainly capable of validly ordaining.

Ladislaus said:

“You could apply tutiorism to avoid priests ordained by +Lefebvre because of the ridiculous Tisserant-mason allegations.  But the questions is whether the allegations are real and well founded, and rise to the level of positive doubt.  They do not in the Tisserant allegation, nor do they in the allegations against Thuc.”

Response:

Nope: There were two co-consecrators.

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Irrelevant when Leinart made him a priest.  If he's not a priest, he can't be a bishop. 

Define mental capacity.  Yes, I might think that you're nuts, colloquially speaking, or, rather, extremely gullible ... but would I say that you couldn't validly go make a good Confession?  Those two are separate issues.

Hey, I think it's just as crazy to support the visions of one "Dawn Marie" ... and also Garabandal or Valtorta, but that doesn't make me believe that +Williamson is crazy to the point of not being able to validly ordain.  To be perfectly honest, if Dawn Marie had gone to +Williamson and told him to ordain someone a priest or consecrate another a bishop, I am not entirely certain that he would not have complied.

Do you think if Dawn Marie turned up on Bishop Williamson’s doorstep, as an unknown stranger, and declared to him that he must leave with her that day to consecrate other unknown strangers, because the Blessed Virgin told her he must do this, that he would have responded, “Let me pack my bag?”
I don’t.

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Irrelevant when Leinart made him a priest.  If he's not a priest, he can't be a bishop.

I think you need to read this:
http://archives.sspx.org/archbishop_lefebvre/validity_of_holy_orders.htm

It can be, certainly.  Since the shepherd has been struck (whether you interpret that in an SV or R&R manner), the sheep are scattered.  It's inevitable and only highlights the importance of the divinely-established papacy.

In the meantime, however, I desperately need the Sacraments and would lose my soul without access to them ... so home aloneism is not an option for me.  It also is fraught with the danger of developing a schismatic mentality and thinking that you're the only good Catholic left in the world.

Where are we supposed to go then?
In my area, I have FSSP, SSPX, CMRI.  The last time I heard a fiery sermon at an SSPX Mass was probably sometime in the year 2000.  The FSSP priest thinks Paul VI and JPII were "good shepherds".  That leaves the CMRI, and every once a while, one of their priests seems to just disappear and no one ever finds out how or why and anyone who knows isn't telling.
Politics reign no matter which group you turn to.
Is there no one anymore that is there solely for Jesus Christ and souls???