The duration of this recording is 33:01, not 46:14 as the title to this thread states.

There are two Denver recordings.  This one is the conference, not the sermon, but it's the first one listed, not the second (usually the conference comes second in the list).



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From the top, I'd like to make clear that Fr. Pfeiffer is referring to the three different -and wicked- interpretations of the SECOND intention.  

The first intention, "For the protection of the traditional apostolate," is ambiguous at best, and subtly DECEPTIVE at worst.  Ask yourself:  "Have I ever heard of prayers for the protection of the traditional apostolate?"  So, the first problem is, this is something NEW, and it is therefore suspect -- why something new?  Haven't we had enough novelties since 1958?  Fr. Pfeiffer explains this in more detail, below.

I'd like to point out that in all these discussions on the new Rosary Crusade, the THIRD intention of +Fellay has been entirely ignored, to wit, "For the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary."  Please note, this has REPLACED the wording of previous crusades, for the Collegial Consecration of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by the Pope together with all the bishops of the world.  Now, since this third intention is not mentioned anywhere among the Resistance commentaries and/or sermons, as best as I can tell, I would have to surmise that when accusations of 'wickedness' are hurled, they only apply to this third intention in two ways:  

1)  The stated third intention should be the FIRST intention, because it is the most important Rosary Crusade intention!   A Franciscan priest pointed this out to me, as his immediate reaction to the whole affair.  Why is this most important intention relegated to number three?  In fact, the other two intentions are OBVIATED and MADE IRRELEVANT by this one alone.  I would only add to that, that this inversion of the proper priorities of our intentions only serves the POLITICAL AGENDA of +F, which is effectively a subversion of the purpose of the Rosary in the first place.  Our Lady did not give us the Rosary so we could then go out and manipulate the subservience of hundreds of thousands of Catholics, in a persistent and greedy attempt to confiscate their real estate.

2)  The so-called third intention as officially worded, is a DECEPTION in itself, because it is AMBIGUOUS to pray for the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary while at the same time ignoring her longstanding request:  the Collegial Consecration of Russia.  In fact, this ignoring of the word RUSSIA has been the problem all along, ever since 1942, when Pope Pius XII first made the Consecration (that was the only time Russia was mentioned by name!), for he neglected to include all the bishops of the world with him.  Remember, the consequence was Vat.II and the Newmass!  

Think about this:  

If Pius XII had only demanded that all the bishops had joined him in that 5-minute prayer,
we could have avoided the entire Conciliar Revolution.  Hmmmmmm.....   :scratchchin:



There are 3 intentions that +Fellay officially announced in France, in French, but there are various versions of these translated in various districts worldwide.  Fellayites are wont to believe that the official version is the one their local district has posted.  Even mulit-lingual Fellayites are wont to ignore the other languages IN WHICH THEY ARE FLUENT.

Please explain to me this phenomenon, that a LINGUIST who can read and write French is unwilling to think about the fact that the official French version was changed, from,

2) "Pour le retour de la Tradition dans l'Eglise," --- For the return OF tradition within the Church, to,
2) "Pour le retour à la Tradition dans l'Eglise." ---- For the return TO tradition within the Church.

The part I like the best is that in the South American District, the Spanish version of the Second Intention is "For the Return of Rome to Catholic Tradition."

Whereas the South American District is promoting a rosary crusade,

    “Por el retorno de Roma a la Tradición católica”

    (“For the return of Rome to Catholic Tradition”.)

If this thing is all news to you, and you'd like to see what you should have seen 3 weeks ago on this, click here.



Fr. Pfeiffer held a conference in Denver Colorado on Jan. 19th (two weeks after the posted article linked above), in which is found the following material:



http://www.mediafire.com/listen/j450ct56tai06mr/Fr.+Pfeiffer+Jan+19+2014+Denver+CO++Conference.MP3

The Rosary Crusade, by Fr. Pfeiffer

min. 4:22

"3 Conditions"  (he means 3 intentions!)

1.  For the success of the Traditional apostolate within the Church.

That indicates -- suppose that we pray for the apostolate of the Legion of Mary.  What does that indicate?   (It indicates) that in the parish there may be other apostolates!  There's the apostolate of the League of Christ the King, or the Men's guild, or the Holy Name Society, and so on.  So when we pray for "the apostolate of the Legion of Mary," it means that there is another apostolate.  

So, if we pray for the success of the Traditional Apostolate, it means that there is another apostolate.  Now, what apostolate in the Catholic Church is not traditional -- since Jesus Christ founded the Church?  There IS NO non-traditional apostolate.  The other apostolate is a NovusOrdo apostolate!  We don't accept that.  

Furthermore, the success of the 'traditional apostolate' -- whom does it include??  The word 'traditional' now, then Obama is 'traditional', now Rush Limbaugh is MORE 'traditional', and uhh, you know, many priests are 'traditional';  sedevacantists are traditional, Indult is traditional, Liberals are traditional -- EVERYBODY'S traditional.  You can even join the TFP, and have Tradition, Family and Property, and so everyone's traditional!  So if you just have this big, traditional apostolate, then it includes whatever you want it to include!  It's INCLUSIVE LANGUAGE. -- that's the special language of the Modernists.  

Try to say something that can mean ANYTHING.  

So, the first one (the first intention) is a vague uh condition (he means intention), which INCLUDES the Liberal apostolate.  To pray that Rosary Crusade with that intention is a sacrilege and a blasphemy against Our Lady.

2.  The second intention is worse.  
That's the one to pray for the uh, what do you call it?  For the return of Tradition within the Church. ... Now, the TRUE Church can never 'RETURN' to tradition because it's traditional.  So, that is a lie.

The true Church and tradition can never be separated from one another;  there can be no 'return'.  The normal expression, tradition, especially in France, but also here, we say, "Tradition has to do something."  What do we pray to -- all traditional Catholics?  When we say "tradition," when we say, "There's a crisis in Tradition," what does that mean?  When we say it like that, it means, the traditional Catholics are fighting against Modernism!

So, if we pray for the return of tradition within the Church, that means that Tradition is NOT in FULL COMMUNION with the Church, and, it must RETURN to full communion with the Church.  In other words, the SSPX, and the independent priests, and the sedevacantists, and all those that can be called, "Tradition," are outside the full communion of the Church.  And that is another LIE.  

Thirdly, or a third possible meaning of a 'return of tradition to the Church', is the return of the TRUE tradition to the Conciliar Church.  That's also a lie.  

Number one, it [tradition] can't return to the Conciliar Church because it was never there.  And number two, we don't NEED 'tradition' inside of Lutheranism, inside of Islam, inside of the false churches.  Tradition only in the true Church!  So even when we pray for the return of tradition, we want the Lutherans to go back to their core values, in the Lutherans!? -- No, we don't!  We want them to become Catholic!  

So, if we pray for the return of tradition to the Conciliar Church, THAT'S a lie.  

If we pray for the return of Catholics to the true Church, THAT'S a lie.

And if we pray for the return of Tradition to the true Church, THAT'S a lie.

Ambiguous statement with three possible meanings, ALL LIES.  Therefore, to pray for that intention under any of the three meanings is a lie...

...[member of audience interrupts with the same statement 3 times] ~ ... It's like they ARE "tradition"...

Fr. P. ~  Ahh, yes, but we do the same thing here;  we use the same expression here, "tradition."  The thing can mean only the SSPX, and it can mean more than that -- SSPX plus all who hold the position of the SSPX.  That's what we mean by 'tradition' -- that's a normal -- that's the SECOND meaning [for the return of traditional Catholics to the true Church].  It's a lie.  And that's what somebody pointed out on the Internet, the second meaning.  

And then they tried to change the translation in the English -- in France it's pretty easy, you know, de la tradition, of Tradition, but they tried to change it:  TO tradition, to try to make it less offensive, because "to the tradition" sounds better than "of tradition."

So we want the Church to return TO tradition -- well, that's false.  The TRUE Church can never 'return' to Tradition.  The ConcilIar Church just needs to DIE.  What we NEED is for the AUTHORITIES to return to Tradition.  That's good.  To pray for the Authorities to return to tradition.  For the Pope tor return to tradition.  That's good.  That's no problem.  But to pray for the Conciliar Church?  NO!  To pray so that it ends up ------ those things are GRAVE ERRORS, you see.  

10:16


[The remaining time, up to 33:01, he speaks on other topics.  In this conference, Fr. Pfeiffer makes no mention of the THIRD intention, "For the triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary."]


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Thanks for posting this... EXCELLENT points.

You're welcom, Ekim!  



And now, it's..................

Quiz time!  



PART A

For 5 points each, name one district to which each of the following translations of the Newcrusade Intention Number Two belong:

1)  For the return of Rome to Catholic Tradition

2)  For the recognition of the rights of Tradition in the Church

3)  For the return of Tradition within the Church

4)  For the return to Tradition within the Church

 

PART B

For one point each, extra credit, match these non-English languages to the 4 phrases above:

A)   "Pour le retour à la Tradition dans l'Eglise"

B)   “Por el retorno de Roma a la Tradición católica”

C)   “für die Rückkehr der Tradition in der Kirche”

D)   "Pour le retour de la Tradition dans l'Eglise"

E)   “Per il ritorno della Tradizione nella Chiesa”



And for Triple Golden Ruby Extra Credit, identify for the following DISTRICTS which websites have posted the various versions, whether from part A or part B, above, and which websites have had MORE THAN ONE version, and which versions those have been (so far!):

Alpha  ---  The District of Germany

Beta  ---  The District of Italy

Gamma  --- The Districts of France and Switzerland

Delta ---   The District of South America

Epsilon --- The District of Spain

Zeta  ---  The District of Canada

Eta  ---  The District of Asia (in English)

Theta  ---  The District of Poland

Iota  ---   The District of the United States

Kappa  ---  The District of Great Britain

Lambda  ---  The District of Mexico


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Archbishop Lefebvre spoke and wrote about the need for "the Church" to return
to tradition. Was it a lie when he said it, too?

When? Where? Context? :dancing-banana:

 :dancing-banana:What do we get for passing your tests?  What if we ace them?  
Better spend the time praying the Rosary for the conversion of souls.

 :dancing-banana:You're right, Neil.  Because I'm not taking your test.  

I'll bite

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PART A

For 10 points each, name one district to which each of the following translations of the Newcrusade Intention Number Two belong:

1)  For the return of Rome to Catholic Tradition S. AMERICA

2)  For the recognition of the rights of Tradition in the Church POLAND

3)  For the return of Tradition within the Church FRANCE

4)  For the return to Tradition within the Church Germany

 

PART B

For one point each, extra credit, match these non-English languages to the 4 phrases above:

A)   "Pour le retour à la Tradition dans l'Eglise"

B)   “Por el retorno de Roma a la Tradición católica” 1

C)   “für die Rückkehr der Tradition in der Kirche” 4

D)   "Pour le retour de la Tradition dans l'Eglise" 3

E)   “Per il ritorno della Tradizione nella Chiesa”

F)   “o uznanie praw Tradycji w Kościele” 2
 


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Part 3, NO idea

Quote from: Ekim

Thanks for posting this... EXCELLENT points.

You people are FREAKS.

Thanks for turning me off the "resistance", or is your job to make it look ridiculous?

"Wicked intentions of the Rosary crusade"
You people are high on some sort of evangelical protestant spliff. And you take it out on the SSPX.

Are the traditional Dominicans of Avrille freaks too? They're refusing to pray for these intentions as well. And these intentions are what caused over 20 new priests to sign a declaration against B. Fellay's new direction. This conclusion--the intentions being "wicked"--is not found by just rebellious common man, but by knowledgeable religious.