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Offline Matthew

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  • 1. The unjust and illegal exclusion of +Williamson from the General Chapter, the attempt to completely silence and sideline him (to appease the Jews and the modern world), and his consequent expulsion.

    2. The new orientation of the SSPX, made publicly known. The SSPX is now concerned what Modernist Rome thinks of it, and will do everything it can to be as pleasing as possible to Rome. That is a compromise and a mistake.

    Those are the first two obvious ones that come to mind; the reasons most people have. And there are plenty of other reasons. But it hit me yesterday that there is a third reason, which is almost as powerful as the first two.

    3. I've never read or heard, even once, the admission from the SSPX media/authorities/pro-Fellay faction that the Resistance supporters could be ANY ONE of these things (nevermind all 5):

    1. Good Catholics
    2. of good will
    3. Long-standing, fervent supporters of Archbishop Lefebvre's SSPX
    4. Well-informed
    5. With a healthy, intact Spiritual Life

    That is such a violation of the truth, in my opinion, that it makes me question how committed they are to the truth. Their public statements -- which consistently bury the truth, can only be described as propaganda.

    The truth is that most Resistance supporters are all those things, and non-Sedevacantist to boot (which is another frequent accusation of the accordistas). From what I've seen, most supporters of the Resistance are 1. Good Catholics 2. of good will 3. Long-standing, fervent supporters of the SSPX 4. Well-informed 5. With a healthy, intact Spiritual Life

    Just like after Vatican II, all the well-informed, Good Catholics of good will who were trying to live a holy life and who fervently supported the Church materially and spiritually for decades were vilified when they opposed Vatican II -- the same thing is happening today.
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    Offline Kazimierz

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    « Reply #1 on: July 29, 2013, 12:32:02 PM »
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    3. Long-standing, fervent supporters of the SSPX


    I would be one in complete agreement with the reasons you have stated Matthew. I place number 3 in quotes, as that statement I must place in the past tense, as in "I was a long standing, fervent supporter of the SSPX ( I taught with them, lived with many priests...they were a part of my daily life) but since the disastrous change in direction, I now support the Resistance with the same fervour. Under that banner I pledge myself.  :smile:

    This is a serious journey,not a Hobbit walking party.


    Offline Incredulous

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    « Reply #2 on: July 30, 2013, 01:00:34 AM »
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  • Seven reasons:

      1. The 2009 anti-holocaust media frenzy conspiracy against Bp. Williamson
          carried out with the assistance of Msgr. Fellay and Max Krah.

      2. The discovery of the zionist Max Krah within the top echelons of the
          SSPX and the SSPX sponsoring of Krah's eMBA.

      3. Bp. Fellay's lying, political manipulations and persecution of SSPX priests.

      4. Bp. Fellay banning of the publication of +ABL's sermons.

      5. Bp. Fellay's doctrinal sell-out accord with Benedict and plus his
          traitorous 6 conditions.

      6. Bp. Fellay's expulsion of +W and sequestering of Bishops Tisser
          and de Galeretta to neutralize their resistance.

      7. Bp. Fellay's market branding of an Apostolic religious order.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #3 on: July 30, 2013, 05:42:00 AM »
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  • The expulsions of Father Pfieffer, father Hewko and father Chazal.
    The lack of charity towards to Father Hewko which prevented him from attending his own nephews ordination.  

    Denying communion to the faithful.
    Persecuting innocent Catholic school children.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 30, 2013, 09:00:47 AM »
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    Seven reasons:

      1. The 2009 anti-holocaust media frenzy conspiracy against Bp. Williamson
          carried out with the assistance of Msgr. Fellay and Max Krah.

      2. The discovery of the zionist Max Krah within the top echelons of the
          SSPX and the SSPX sponsoring of Krah's eMBA.

      3. Bp. Fellay's lying, political manipulations and persecution of SSPX priests.

      4. Bp. Fellay banning of the publication of +ABL's sermons.

      5. Bp. Fellay's doctrinal sell-out accord with Benedict and plus his
          traitorous 6 conditions.

      6. Bp. Fellay's expulsion of +W and sequestering of Bishops Tisser
          and de Galeretta to neutralize their resistance.

      7. Bp. Fellay's market branding of an Apostolic religious order.


    What was unmistakable was the new pro-Jewish slant and the vilification and persecution of their own.  If Trads had been properly catechized about the modern world that should have been enough to tip them off as to what has been happening.

    Instead you have articles on "The Lessons of Hanukkah" in The Remnant at Christmas time.   You have articles putting the Pharisee Hillel in between Isaiah and John the Baptist in The Angelus.

    Sadly, I suspect a large percentage of the liberals know exactly what they are and what they are doing.  What contempt they must have for us.


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    « Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 09:09:41 AM »
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  • The SSPX has behaved implicitly for a long time as though it is the Church.  This is why it's easy for them to put a virtual anathema on the "disobedient."

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    « Reply #6 on: July 30, 2013, 09:19:55 AM »
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  • Let's not forget their betrayal of Archbishop Lefebvre and their twisting or suppression of his quotes.

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    « Reply #7 on: August 01, 2013, 08:30:03 AM »
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    Very good OP, Matthew!  

    Quote from: Matthew

    Three reasons I'm forced in conscience to support the Resistance:

    1. The unjust and illegal exclusion of +Williamson from the General Chapter, the attempt to completely silence and sideline him (to appease the Jews and the modern world), and his consequent expulsion.


    Other members may suggest points that fall under this heading:
    Quote from: Incredulous

      1.  The 2009 anti-holocaust media frenzy conspiracy against Bp. Williamson
            carried out with the assistance of Msgr. Fellay and Max Krah.
      3.  Bp. Fellay's lying, political manipulations and persecution of SSPX priests.
      6.  Bp. Fellay's expulsion of +W and sequestering of Bishops Tisser de Mallerais
            and Alfonso de Galarreta to neutralize their resistance.


    Quote from: Matthew
    2. The new orientation of the SSPX, made publicly known. The SSPX is now concerned what Modernist Rome thinks of it, and will do everything it can to be as pleasing as possible to Rome. That is a compromise and a mistake.


    Other members may suggest points that fall under this heading:

    Quote from: Incredulous

      2.  The discovery of the zionist Max Krah within the top
            echelons of the SSPX and the SSPX sponsoring of Krah's eMBA.

      3.  Bp. Fellay's lying, political manipulations and persecution of SSPX priests.

      4.  Bp. Fellay banning of the publication of +ABL's sermons.

      5.  Bp. Fellay's doctrinal sell-out accord with Benedict and plus his
            traitorous 6 conditions.

      7.  Bp. Fellay's market branding of an Apostolic religious order.




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    -  The expulsions of Father Pfieffer, Father Hewko and Father Chazal.

    -  The lack of charity towards to Father Hewko which prevented him
        from attending his own nephew's ordination.

    -  Denying communion to the faithful.

    -  Persecuting innocent Catholic school children.



    I would therefore propose a second sub-category to the new orientation,
    which would be the unjust practice of punitive enforcement of the new
    orientation.  That is, while the new orientation to appease apostate Rome
    is a positive thing, the punishment of those who do not kowtow to this
    illicit and sinful agenda is a quasi-negative category inasmuch as it
    attempts to suppress the opposition, while in this case, the opposition is
    in the right, while the leadership is in the wrong.  That is, it is directed at
    eliminating a demographic that has heretofore been a part of its reality.



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    Those are the first two obvious ones [categories] that come to mind; the reasons most people have. And there are plenty of other reasons. But it hit me yesterday that there is a third reason [category], which is almost as powerful [categorical] as the first two.

    3. I've never read or heard, even once, the admission from the SSPX media/authorities/pro-Fellay faction that the Resistance supporters could be ANY ONE of these things (nevermind all 5):

    1. Good Catholics
    2. of good will
    3. Long-standing, fervent supporters of Archbishop Lefebvre's SSPX
    4. Well-informed
    5. With a healthy, intact Spiritual Life


    You left off one:
    6.  Good-looking.     :cowboy:     HAHAHAHA


    ..But seriously,

    This third category you're announcing would be well-described as a
    negative category, that is, the first two were positive categories:  

    ~  the (unjust) treatment of one of the 4 Society bishops, and
    ~  the new (un-Catholic) orientation of the ExSPX;

    But this third category is not something the ExSPX is doing or has
    done,
    but rather it's something the ExSPX has NOT done.  

    To be clear, the term "negative category" has nothing whatsoever
    to do with how bad it makes someone feel, which is an erroneous
    outlook based on the effect of Feminist deconstruction of Catholic
    doctrine.  This stupid nonsense is commonplace now in Novus Ordo
    'communities' as it panders well to the Newage false religion they
    purvey.  It is inherently linked to the feminization of society and of
    the conciliar church, which is not Catholic, but nonetheless has
    possession (although illicitly) of the authority and power of the
    Church, or so it would seem.  But since what things seem to be is
    all that matters in these end times, appearances are the whole of
    people's perception and subjectivism says that IS reality, then you
    get what you get.



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    That is such a violation of the truth, in my opinion, that it makes me question how committed they are to the truth. Their public statements -- which consistently bury the truth, can only be described as propaganda.

    The truth is that most Resistance supporters are all those things, and non-Sedevacantist to boot (which is another frequent accusation of the accordistas). From what I've seen, most supporters of the esistance are 1. Good Catholics 2. of good will 3. Long-standing, fervent supporters of the SSPX 4. Well-informed 5. With a healthy, intact Spiritual Life

    Just like after Vatican II, all the well-informed, Good Catholics of good will who were trying to live a holy life and who fervently supported the Church materially and spiritually for decades were vilified when they opposed Vatican II -- the same thing is happening today.



    In sum, you feel obliged to support the Resistance against the
    defection of the SSPX from the truth and holiness upon which it
    was founded, and you do so because of what the Society
    leadership has DONE, and because of what it has NOT DONE.  

    Regarding the latter, it has not given any admission that
    Resistance supporters are:

    1. Good Catholics
    2. of good will
    3. Long-standing, fervent supporters of Archbishop Lefebvre's SSPX
    4. Well-informed
    5. With a healthy, intact Spiritual Life

    What they have given instead has been the calumny that
    Resistance supporters are lunatic-fringe miscreants unworthy of
    anyone's attention and should henceforth be SHUNNED like the
    Amish do to members who don't dutifully tow the line like good
    little cult members, or, like the Freemasons do (that is, if they
    don't just KILL them).

    In the case of the ExSPX, the SHUNNED are those who don't "Pray,
    Pay and Obey!" -and, "Remain Silent!"  







    Like any Machiavellian tyrant, HEBF practices CRUSH the opposition!  







                  (BTW that's Tarcisio Cardinal Bertone, not HEBF)



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    « Reply #8 on: August 01, 2013, 09:41:13 AM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew

    3. I've never read or heard, even once, the admission from the SSPX media/authorities/pro-Fellay faction that the Resistance supporters could be ANY ONE of these things (nevermind all 5):

    1. Good Catholics
    2. of good will
    3. Long-standing, fervent supporters of Archbishop Lefebvre's SSPX
    4. Well-informed
    5. With a healthy, intact Spiritual Life

    That is such a violation of the truth, in my opinion, that it makes me question how committed they are to the truth. Their public statements -- which consistently bury the truth, can only be described as propaganda.

    The truth is that most Resistance supporters are all those things, and non-Sedevacantist to boot (which is another frequent accusation of the accordistas). From what I've seen, most supporters of the Resistance are 1. Good Catholics 2. of good will 3. Long-standing, fervent supporters of the SSPX 4. Well-informed 5. With a healthy, intact Spiritual Life



    I think another characteristic that could be added to the list is that Resistance supporters are 'not liberal."

    The liberals are in the Neo-SSPX (along with other good souls who follow blindly or who are afraid to join the Resistance because of the intimidation tactics used against them).

    For me, this is a sign that the Resistance has the true spirit. In this time of confusion, one has to judge by the fruits one sees. There are no liberals in the Resistance and and they don't like the Resistance (from what I can see). That's a good sign.

    (by liberals I'm referring to parishioners who succumb to the spirit of the world in fashion, music, trends, ways of thinking and behaving, etc.)

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    « Reply #9 on: August 02, 2013, 07:19:53 AM »
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    I think you have a point there, unbrandable.  

    "There are no liberals in the Resistance"



    It would seem that the shortest rap sheet -- for the
    "Re-branding" project of GREC and the deviation from the
    principles of ABL found in the AFD and the SARD* and the
    de-facto policy of expulsion -- can be that they introduce
    LIBERALISM into the SSPX, where there was none before.  



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    « Reply #10 on: August 02, 2013, 09:56:40 AM »
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  • Support Bishop Williamson and the Resistance Priests and the Laity. :incense:


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    « Reply #11 on: August 02, 2013, 10:34:59 AM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    Let's not forget their betrayal of Archbishop Lefebvre and their twisting or suppression of his quotes.


    This is an understatement.  

     

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