Author Topic: This is ALL YOU NEED when evaluating a chapel (Read 4352 times)

Matthew · « **on:** October 18, 2015, 01:29:16 PM »

My minimalist, back-to-basics "Trad Checklist" for evaluating a chapel:

1. Is the priest properly ordained in the old rite (by a bishop who himself was ordained/consecrated in the old rite)?
2. Was the priest FORMED in a Traditional seminary, or at least has the priest fully converted to Tradition? Does the priest defend Tradition, and attack Modernism, Vatican II and the Conciliar religion sufficiently to teach/warn his congregation of their severe, grave dangers?
3. Does the priest say the pre-Vatican II Tridentine Mass in Latin, and only give/recommend the other Sacraments according to the Pre-Vatican II form as well?

If a chapel fails any of these 3 points, it's not a Traditional chapel and is not a safe place for us to park our families during the Crisis.

On the other hand, if it passes these 3 tests, it is SAFE ENOUGH TO TRUST WITH AT LEAST OUR SUNDAY MASS ATTENDANCE.

If you're looking for a place to donate your life to, swear lifetime allegiance to, buy T-Shirts for, etc. then you might want to add other points.

But I, for one, am not interested in THAT kind of Traditional Catholicism. I only want to be a simple Traditional Catholic, keeping the Faith during this Crisis in the Church. I don't need a team to root for, or a priest to sign over my Intellect and/or Free Will to.

Matthew · « **Reply #1 on:** October 18, 2015, 01:33:45 PM »

1962 or 1955 Missal? Sedevacantist or Recognize and Resist? Feeneyite or Non-Feeneyite? Smoking or non-Smoking? Dark haired or light-haired priest? Irish or German? American or Foreign?

WHO CARES?

On those matters, you can have a preference, but unless it seriously impacts the Faith, or your family's ability to keep the Faith, these points are NOT sufficiently grave to merit staying home on Sunday if you have options in your area for Mass.

You can call this my opinion, but it's an opinion formed with the Mind of the Church doing all my thinking for me.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #2 on:** October 18, 2015, 01:49:15 PM »

Oh brother.

Paul FHC · « **Reply #3 on:** October 18, 2015, 02:30:00 PM »

What is wrong with you Matthew? The faith of the priest is somehow missing from your infallible list of commandments.

Furthermore it seems intentional, because you go on to say that it doesn't matter if the priest is feeneyite. Feeneyism is a heresy.

It's seems pharisaical to complain about the Ambrose charlatan but to encourage people to attend feeneyite masses.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #4 on:** October 18, 2015, 02:45:58 PM »

"I don't need a priest to sign my intellect over to."-Matthew

Matthew knows this that I have been one of his critics, and I just want to add that this is the stupidest thing that I ever read from Matthew and one of the dumbest things ever posted on Catholic info period. He deserves some sort of special recognition for that because frankly, it isn't easy to do.

edit- And everytime someone makes a sort of comment of constructive criticism to matthew he starts a new thread where he does a rant so that all readers can't really connect the two threads and the comments end up far separated from each other in the long run on different threads so that in the future noone can connect the dots but I'll put it out there...this thread and this "rant" was started after suggesting that Matthew should speak with a priest about recommending Feenyite chapels. Let's put it into context shall we.