Author Topic: Thirty Days in the Boston Seminary (Read 95123 times)

Croixalist · « **Reply #195 on:** November 03, 2015, 11:40:55 AM »

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On his twelfth day at Boston, Manuel did send to me...

Twelve devils delving,
Eleven Pablos preaching,
Ten leaps of logic,
Nine loan sharks leering,
Eight minds a-melting,
Seven shills a-shilling,
Six priests vacating,
Five folding chairs!
Four scolding words,
Three henchmen,
Two troubled tweets,
and a Pfeiffer in a fig tree!

What scares the hell out of me is that your numbers keep ascending and you've yet to list porno-viewings and lay exorcisms.

We'd need a full 365 just for Pabs!

JMacQ · « **Reply #196 on:** November 03, 2015, 01:28:06 PM »

Am I the only one who notices that he goes from the sermon straight to the removing of the veil without saying "Dominus Vobiscuм"? This is a fact that all can see watching that short segment of the mass. No real traditional priest forgets that.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #197 on:** November 03, 2015, 02:28:43 PM »

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On his twelfth day at Boston, Manuel did send to me...

Twelve devils delving,
Eleven Pablos preaching,
Ten leaps of logic,
Nine loan sharks leering,
Eight minds a-melting,
Seven shills a-shilling,
Six priests vacating,
Five folding chairs!
Four scolding words,
Three henchmen,
Two troubled tweets,
and a Pfeiffer in a fig tree!

What scares the hell out of me is that your numbers keep ascending and you've yet to list porno-viewings and lay exorcisms.

Oy vey.

poche · « **Reply #198 on:** November 04, 2015, 05:10:53 AM »

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Dear Manuel Chavez,
I am sorry but I can´t believe what you wrote. Father Pfeiffer and father Hewko leave every weekend Kentucky, and they are out for several days. That has not changed!

One of the priests says Mass very late on Sunday evenings after traveling.

There were some missed Sundays during the summer.

What do they do when there are missed Sundays during the summer?

Centroamerica · « **Reply #199 on:** November 04, 2015, 05:25:39 AM »

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Dear Manuel Chavez,
I am sorry but I can´t believe what you wrote. Father Pfeiffer and father Hewko leave every weekend Kentucky, and they are out for several days. That has not changed!

One of the priests says Mass very late on Sunday evenings after traveling.

There were some missed Sundays during the summer.

What do they do when there are missed Sundays during the summer?

Did they ever post a daily schedule? This being about a day in the life in the seminary, it seems illogical to always mention food but never mention a daily routine. How's their prayer life, how is the day divided and what classes does the blogger ever attend? To be a blog about a seminary and only focus on contraversy and food makes it seem like a boys' home and not a seminary.

JPaul · « **Reply #200 on:** November 04, 2015, 07:29:59 AM »

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Dear Manuel Chavez,
I am sorry but I can´t believe what you wrote. Father Pfeiffer and father Hewko leave every weekend Kentucky, and they are out for several days. That has not changed!

One of the priests says Mass very late on Sunday evenings after traveling.

There were some missed Sundays during the summer.

What do they do when there are missed Sundays during the summer?

Did they ever post a daily schedule? This being about a day in the life in the seminary, it seems illogical to always mention food but never mention a daily routine. How's their prayer life, how is the day divided and what classes does the blogger ever attend? To be a blog about a seminary and only focus on contraversy and food makes it seem like a boys' home and not a seminary.

Its purpose is not to let you know what is actually happening in the so called seminary, it it to put out fires as they crop up and marginalize criticisms of the involved parties.

1st Mansion Tenant · « **Reply #201 on:** November 04, 2015, 01:17:03 PM »

Manuel,
I would like to know the reason for not involving the 2 resistance bishops in this investigation. Is Ambrose (if proven valid) not to be a resistance bishop, but rather Kentucky's private bishop?You would think that bishops Williamson and Faure would have called Ambrose to England to be interviewed and to study his docuмents. Uncovering a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop would be cause for much joy and thanksgiving in this crisis- and that alone would be quite a feather in Fr Pfeiffer's cap. If he is for real, then the rest of the resistance priests and bishops should rejoice. Why aren't they rejoicing?

PS- maybe Fr P should cancel a few flights and use the money to hire a real private investigator-- and then listen to his findings. Surely the same info that is posted on CI would come to his attention...

Matthew · « **Reply #202 on:** November 04, 2015, 01:36:36 PM »

As others have pointed out, Fr. Pfeiffer has duplicated his old stomping grounds, the SSPX, a bit TOO well.

Right down to "ignore all criticism", "attack your opponents", "pretend to address issues but not really address them", and so forth.

This 30 Days in the Seminary blog is basically Boston, KY's answer to Fr. Themann's conference a few years ago, "Resistance to What" and Angelus Press' stage piece, "Against the Rumors".

Just reading the title gives you an impression which is NOT borne out by reading the actual content. But for the superficial, one will think that the rumors have been debunked, that there is nothing to resist, etc.

It's psychological. Human beings tend to give the benefit of the doubt. No one is going to assume a huge production was made about nothing. They will ASSUME the conference was chock full of careful refutations of the Resistance and its reason for being. Of course, the truth is far from it. But that won't stop people from being duped.

ultrarigorist · « **Reply #203 on:** November 04, 2015, 01:43:18 PM »

Hey Manuel,
How about letting us know when Bishop Billy Bob is due back in KY?

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #204 on:** November 04, 2015, 01:44:18 PM »

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Manuel,
I would like to know the reason for not involving the 2 resistance bishops in this investigation. Is Ambrose (if proven valid) not to be a resistance bishop, but rather Kentucky's private bishop?You would think that bishops Williamson and Faure would have called Ambrose to England to be interviewed and to study his docuмents. Uncovering a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop would be cause for much joy and thanksgiving in this crisis- and that alone would be quite a feather in Fr Pfeiffer's cap. If he is for real, then the rest of the resistance priests and bishops should rejoice. Why aren't they rejoicing?

PS- maybe Fr P should cancel a few flights and use the money to hire a real private investigator-- and then listen to his findings. Surely the same info that is posted on CI would come to his attention...

I will ask the Fathers about the any potential roles for Bishops Faure and Williamson in regards to Bishop Ambrose.

I am also researching the seminary schedule and daily activities.

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #205 on:** November 04, 2015, 02:56:10 PM »

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Manuel,
I would like to know the reason for not involving the 2 resistance bishops in this investigation. Is Ambrose (if proven valid) not to be a resistance bishop, but rather Kentucky's private bishop?You would think that bishops Williamson and Faure would have called Ambrose to England to be interviewed and to study his docuмents. Uncovering a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop would be cause for much joy and thanksgiving in this crisis- and that alone would be quite a feather in Fr Pfeiffer's cap. If he is for real, then the rest of the resistance priests and bishops should rejoice. Why aren't they rejoicing?

PS- maybe Fr P should cancel a few flights and use the money to hire a real private investigator-- and then listen to his findings. Surely the same info that is posted on CI would come to his attention...

I will ask the Fathers about the any potential roles for Bishops Faure and Williamson in regards to Bishop Ambrose.

I am also researching the seminary schedule and daily activities.

Do you happen to know if Ambrose has the intention to judge the validity of marriages and issue annulments?

Why wasn't he at Cardinal Slipyj's funeral?

JPaul · « **Reply #206 on:** November 04, 2015, 04:28:22 PM »

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Manuel,
I would like to know the reason for not involving the 2 resistance bishops in this investigation. Is Ambrose (if proven valid) not to be a resistance bishop, but rather Kentucky's private bishop?You would think that bishops Williamson and Faure would have called Ambrose to England to be interviewed and to study his docuмents. Uncovering a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop would be cause for much joy and thanksgiving in this crisis- and that alone would be quite a feather in Fr Pfeiffer's cap. If he is for real, then the rest of the resistance priests and bishops should rejoice. Why aren't they rejoicing?

PS- maybe Fr P should cancel a few flights and use the money to hire a real private investigator-- and then listen to his findings. Surely the same info that is posted on CI would come to his attention...

I will ask the Fathers about the any potential roles for Bishops Faure and Williamson in regards to Bishop Ambrose.

I am also researching the seminary schedule and daily activities.

Perhaps you will want to contact the two Bishops and see what, if any, role they see for these two priests in the greater "resistance".

You have been there more than long enough to know the schedules, curriculum, and activities.

We already know enough about what has transpired there. You may want to rethink how long you may wish to carry on with this charade. You cannot undo what has been done.

OHCA · « **Reply #207 on:** November 04, 2015, 07:46:26 PM »

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...Uncovering a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop would be cause for much joy and thanksgiving in this crisis-

Yes--this gap in his story is quite an obstacle. He's a con-man & Fr. Pfeiffer is too. Fr. Pfeiffer may not be the sharpest knife in the shed, but I think he is smart enough to know that Ambrose's brand of manure doesn't smell natural. It's quite obvious to me that he's peddling the story that 45+ years into this crisis, he flipped over a rock and low & behold there was "a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop," all the while knowing, at least deep down, that he is a fraud, and it is all for Fr. Pfeiffer's personal self-grandiosing, and probably gain too.

What are the odds of a story like this? And besides the incredible underlying premise, what are the odds of an egotistical priest who likes to hear himself talk more than anybody else in the world does except possibly Lindsey Graham, who needs a bishop to ordain a couple of "seminarians" here & there for him and sooner or later concecrate him, and an impulsive self-important embellishing lay-exorcist "mexican" being the ones to flip over the rock hiding this treasure?

Matthew · « **Reply #208 on:** November 04, 2015, 08:38:11 PM »

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...Uncovering a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop would be cause for much joy and thanksgiving in this crisis-

Yes--this gap in his story is quite an obstacle. He's a con-man & Fr. Pfeiffer is too. Fr. Pfeiffer may not be the sharpest knife in the shed, but I think he is smart enough to know that Ambrose's brand of manure doesn't smell natural. It's quite obvious to me that he's peddling the story that 45+ years into this crisis, he flipped over a rock and low & behold there was "a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop," all the while knowing, at least deep down, that he is a fraud, and it is all for Fr. Pfeiffer's personal self-grandiosing, and probably gain too.

What are the odds of a story like this? And besides the incredible underlying premise, what are the odds of an egotistical priest who likes to hear himself talk more than anybody else in the world does except possibly Lindsey Graham, who needs a bishop to ordain a couple of "seminarians" here & there for him and sooner or later concecrate him, and an impulsive self-important embellishing lay-exorcist "mexican" being the ones to flip over the rock hiding this treasure?

The odds are too remote to allow for belief.

The whole thing is incredibly convenient, and too good to be true.

Just like another compulsive liar I know scammed my (very interested in his Irish heritage) friend for months that a beautiful maiden of Irish blood couldn't wait to meet him. I forgot how it is he knew her, but he strung my friend along for MONTHS about this girl. It was one excuse after another why he couldn't call/e-mail/meet her. I never did find out how it ended.

That's the thing about scams -- they're highly unlikely, and too good to be true. Those with a bit of experience in the world recognize them for what they are.

ManuelChavez · « **Reply #209 on:** November 04, 2015, 08:47:09 PM »

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...Uncovering a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop would be cause for much joy and thanksgiving in this crisis-

Yes--this gap in his story is quite an obstacle. He's a con-man & Fr. Pfeiffer is too. Fr. Pfeiffer may not be the sharpest knife in the shed, but I think he is smart enough to know that Ambrose's brand of manure doesn't smell natural. It's quite obvious to me that he's peddling the story that 45+ years into this crisis, he flipped over a rock and low & behold there was "a hitherto unknown genuine, traditional Catholic bishop," all the while knowing, at least deep down, that he is a fraud, and it is all for Fr. Pfeiffer's personal self-grandiosing, and probably gain too.

What are the odds of a story like this? And besides the incredible underlying premise, what are the odds of an egotistical priest who likes to hear himself talk more than anybody else in the world does except possibly Lindsey Graham, who needs a bishop to ordain a couple of "seminarians" here & there for him and sooner or later concecrate him, and an impulsive self-important embellishing lay-exorcist "mexican" being the ones to flip over the rock hiding this treasure?

Ambrose reached out to Father Pfeiffer. Pablo did not find him, and neither did Father. The research on Ambrose's background was done before Ambrose was allowed to say Mass in September. They contacted the Eparchy in Toronto, and many other places, found eye witnesses, and more, and their information showed that the claims of Ambrose are accurate in three main points:

That Ambrose is Catholic, not Orthodox.
That he was was ordained.
That he was consecrated at least once. By eight bishops, who did this after the contentious consecration by Cardinal Slipjy, who also consecrated others during that time.

Those points are what we discussed today, after lunch.