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Offline JPaul

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« Reply #180 on: November 02, 2015, 06:20:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
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    It depends upon what the meaning of big, important, or nothing is................


    Sad to say, it would only be a minor step down if Fr. Pfeiffer, defending Ambrose, Pablo, or some other outrage, resorted to Bill Clinton's infamous:

    "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is.


    Contending that his statement that "there's nothing going on between us" had been truthful because he had no ongoing relationship with Lewinsky at the time he was questioned, Clinton said, "It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is.


    Yes remember last week's comment by one of the priests, "there is no doubt he is a Bishop"  We do not know if the missing qualification, "of the Catholic Church" ,
    was intentional or an oversight?

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    « Reply #181 on: November 02, 2015, 06:33:47 PM »
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  • Has he ever made the sign of the Cross?
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...


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    « Reply #182 on: November 02, 2015, 07:40:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
    Well, had I known CtK was doing the same, I wouldn't have bothered, but here's my transcript fwiw. : )

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    [inaudible beginning] And so I consider having – this as my 2nd visit here – having met all of you. I know each one of you. And so I can see (pointing at his chest), you’re in the right place. So, we will consider – sometimes you have to deal with the pirates that take over the ship, except the captain of the ship is one of the pirates now. We will consider the seminary canonically erected, and, uh, you don’t have to worry about that. It’s just a canonical technicality. But, in the current circuмstances, I will guarantee you one thing:  anyone who has a vocation will be ordained. Because we even have more options than myself. I have two bishops, who exist in secret. And, if I disappeared tomorrow, they would pop up. And so the Blessed Mother always has alternatives for you. So, no one should get worried here and leave because of who’s going to ordain us. We’re praying that Bishop Williamson and Bishop Faure will cooperate and be good bishops. Promote the true Faith. But just to show you in an extreme necessity the Blessed Mother can be creative and resourceful. It is sad that under the present circuмstances we have you relying on the likes of me to come forward to help you. But, for better or worse, I am here, and my attitude is, if you can put up with me [inaudible] don’t worry about it. So, pray for me. I’m praying for you. I don’t want to leave today. I wanted to stay, but I have to take care of my [principle?] responsibilities and so I’ll probably be coming and going and that way -- it’s like when you go in the gym, you lift the physical resistance and then the muscles hurt and you have to let them recuperate, and build back up, then you go, you skip a day, right? So, I’ll come for a week or so and then I’ll let you recuperate from me and then I’ll come back. And, we’ll keep doing that, and you’ll just build up and be strong.

    (He moves back to the altar here. No Sign of the Cross to officially end the sermon. He turns half around and says something close to, “We even have the Creed today.” He turns to the altar briefly as if to resume Mass. Then, he turns back around to face the attendees and continues…)

    They accused me of leaving out the Creed when I celebrated the Sunday Mass. There are nasty people out there; they don’t even know what they’re talking about. I did not leave out the Creed and I know that because the choir sang it. And I remember genuflecting. And then I went down and sat down. And so I, I know these things. I mean I’m not senile yet.

    (He turns back toward the altar, bows, and resumes “Mass”.)


    This would be hilarious if souls weren't at stake.  Ambrose and the "Pope in Red" website should swap tall tales and charge an audience admission for doing so.  As far as I'm concerned, neither Fr. Pfeiffer nor Fr. Hewko are fit to offer a public Mass at this point.  I don't know whether the appropriate terminology is schism, heresy, or something else, but if Ambrose is the fraud many here (including myself) believe he is, then Fr. Pfeiffer & Fr. Hewko are outside the Church for the nature of their association with him, having him say Mass, promoting him, etc.

    Even if I turn out to be wrong about Ambrose being a fraud, Fr. Pfeiffer & Fr. Hewko are taking the situation much too lightly & are proceeding too fast & recklessly, which, though not placing them outside the Church, demonstrates an exercise of deplorable poor judgment unbecoming a priest, and I would think it inadvisable to attend their Masses.  They are trying to recklessly pass Ambrose off as legitimate to advance their own grandeur--not for the glory of God--not for providing priests for God's Church--but because Fr. Pfeiffer is the center of his own universe and wants his--Fr. Pfeiffer's--seminary to be a hit & stoke his ego, and probably has his sights unwaveringly set on being concecrated himself.

    For those of you who may be going light on Fr. Hewko, he is either all for pushing the same agenda as Fr. Pfeiffer, or he is culpably timid in the face dire error.  Either way, the right course of action is for him to renounce Ambrose and disassociate from Fr. Pfeiffer's (and his alter ego Pablo) foolhardy self-grandiosing endeavors.

    It saddens me to see that Fr. Pfeiffer's endeavors have come to this.  I had such very high hopes for him in the beginning.  When Pablo emerged on CI (what--maybe 2 1/2 years ago) I was in denial that Fr. Pfeiffer could possibly be aware of what a madman he had in his circle.  But I finally had to acknowledge that in fact he was aware of Pablo's antics and accepted them--I lost a tremendous amount of respect at that point.  My heart sank more when I learned how they were treating +Williamson.  And now, after all of that, he has sought out (via Pablo, I have no doubt) this fraudulent charlatan.

    At this point, Fr. Pfeiffer's actions are more reminiscent of Luther or Henry VIII, than a good holy Catholic priest cleaving to tradition.

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    « Reply #183 on: November 02, 2015, 09:35:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: MaterDominici
    Well, had I known CtK was doing the same, I wouldn't have bothered, but here's my transcript fwiw. : )


    Mater, you apparently have better ears than I, or at least better headphones.  :smile:
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    « Reply #184 on: November 03, 2015, 12:53:31 AM »
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  • @centroamerica

    You wrote: "Has he ever made the sign of the Cross?"
    With the sign of the Cross he makes himself known, because the Orthodox make a completely different sign of the cross and refuse to make the Catholic sign of the cross! That will certainly be the reason that he doesn´t do it.


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    « Reply #185 on: November 03, 2015, 05:03:03 AM »
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    @centroamerica

    You wrote: "Has he ever made the sign of the Cross?"
    With the sign of the Cross he makes himself known, because the Orthodox make a completely different sign of the cross and refuse to make the Catholic sign of the cross! That will certainly be the reason that he doesn´t do it.


    Eastern rite Catholics who are in full communion with the Catholic Church make the sign of the cross the same way.

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    « Reply #186 on: November 03, 2015, 05:09:58 AM »
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    Dear Manuel Chavez,
    I am sorry but I can´t believe what you wrote. Father Pfeiffer and father Hewko leave every weekend Kentucky, and they are out for several days. That has not changed!


    No. There has not been a single day without a Mass offered here. Do not distort the facts. I have been here for nine days, and my brother has been here since before the beginning of the school year. No missed masses. Ambrose only offered one public Mass while he was here this time.


    Was the mass that Ambrose offered in the Latin rite or the Byzantine rite?

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    « Reply #187 on: November 03, 2015, 05:20:09 AM »
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  • Do you know what kinds of classes the seminarians are taking?


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    « Reply #188 on: November 03, 2015, 05:21:14 AM »
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    Dear Manuel Chavez,
    I am sorry but I can´t believe what you wrote. Father Pfeiffer and father Hewko leave every weekend Kentucky, and they are out for several days. That has not changed!


    No. There has not been a single day without a Mass offered here. Do not distort the facts. I have been here for nine days, and my brother has been here since before the beginning of the school year. No missed masses. Ambrose only offered one public Mass while he was here this time.


    Was the mass that Ambrose offered in the Latin rite or the Byzantine rite?


    It was Brooklyn rite.

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    « Reply #189 on: November 03, 2015, 05:21:23 AM »
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  • Who is teaching the classes?

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    « Reply #190 on: November 03, 2015, 05:23:29 AM »
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    Dear Manuel Chavez,
    I am sorry but I can´t believe what you wrote. Father Pfeiffer and father Hewko leave every weekend Kentucky, and they are out for several days. That has not changed!


    No. There has not been a single day without a Mass offered here. Do not distort the facts. I have been here for nine days, and my brother has been here since before the beginning of the school year. No missed masses. Ambrose only offered one public Mass while he was here this time.


    Was the mass that Ambrose offered in the Latin rite or the Byzantine rite?


    It was Brooklyn rite.


    There is no such thing.


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    « Reply #191 on: November 03, 2015, 05:35:55 AM »
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    Dear Manuel Chavez,
    I am sorry but I can´t believe what you wrote. Father Pfeiffer and father Hewko leave every weekend Kentucky, and they are out for several days. That has not changed!


    One of the priests says Mass very late on Sunday evenings after traveling.  

    There were some missed Sundays during the summer.  


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    « Reply #192 on: November 03, 2015, 07:50:09 AM »
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  • On his twelfth day at Boston, Manuel did send to me...

    Twelve devils delving,
    Eleven Pablos preaching,
    Ten leaps of logic,
    Nine loan sharks leering,
    Eight minds a-melting,
    Seven shills a-shilling,
    Six priests vacating,
    Five folding chairs!
    Four scolding words,
    Three henchmen,
    Two troubled tweets,
    and a Pfeiffer in a fig tree!
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    « Reply #193 on: November 03, 2015, 08:32:27 AM »
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  • @TheRealMcCoy
    You wrote: "There were some missed Sundays during the summer."
    SOME?! Especially in wintertime! Although Father Voigt was still a member of the "so called resistance", for many weeks there was no Sunday Mass!

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    « Reply #194 on: November 03, 2015, 10:10:00 AM »
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  • Quote from: Croixalist
    On his twelfth day at Boston, Manuel did send to me...

    Twelve devils delving,
    Eleven Pablos preaching,
    Ten leaps of logic,
    Nine loan sharks leering,
    Eight minds a-melting,
    Seven shills a-shilling,
    Six priests vacating,
    Five folding chairs!
    Four scolding words,
    Three henchmen,
    Two troubled tweets,
    and a Pfeiffer in a fig tree!


    What scares the hell out of me is that your numbers keep ascending and you've yet to list porno-viewings and lay exorcisms.