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« Reply #30 on: October 23, 2015, 10:49:32 AM »
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  • Quote from: ManuelChavez
    You may claim that I am "plugged into the Jєωs' social engineering program", but your claim cannot be substantiated. It is a clear attack on myself, rather than a reasonable argument.

    I can have a debate or discussion without the use of "ad hominem", "Straw-men" or other incendiary word or phrases. I do not attack the person, but I will use logic, reason and facts to highlight the Truth, and eliminate deception and error.


    I am not arguing with you about anything, sir.  I am simply pointing out some tell-tale indications that you are, whether wittingly or unwittingly, not trustworthy.  Either you are naive and not realizing the Jєω social engineering in which you are steeped, or you're a cog in that mechanism--either way, that means you're not trustworthy in my assessment.


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    « Reply #31 on: October 23, 2015, 11:04:15 AM »
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  • Quote from: ManuelChavez
    "Boy" is an interesting term, one that can be seen as derogatory, especially given the confrontational stance of the message.  


    It seems uber-sensitive to say "boy" is derogatory.  Jєω social engineering has trained society to generally say the term is derogatory and to incite colored folks to irrational violence upon being so addressed by rooting the term back to some supposed connection to "water-boys."  For example, if I said "Obama is not my boy" to one of my colored friends, he would likely be irrationally offended.  But I don't give in to such "niceties" dictated by freemasonic/Jєω social machinery.


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    « Reply #32 on: October 23, 2015, 12:49:41 PM »
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    A few measures by which to judge if this is in fact a Catholic seminary,

    1) Does it have a full time clerical staff to teach, guide, and watch over the seminarians?  I do not mean layman or part time clerics, but full time, a senior brother or a priest at all times.

    2) Is daily and Sunday Mass always available to the seminarians?

    3) Is  there an established and eccessiastically approved curriculum which is properly structured?

    4) Are the facilities adequate to provide a safe and wholesome study and living environment for the seminarians?

    5) Are the seminarians segregated from daily bustle of the compound and surrounding neighbors so that they might be apart from the "world", and are there accommodations for complete silence and contemplation for interior communion with God?

    6 ) Has the seminary been inspected and approved by a resistance Bishop and his recommendations and corrections followed?



    Comment,  If these basics have not or cannot be met, the seminary should not attempt to operate until they are.  
    If it is already operating without these basics, operation should be suspended until they are present.

    Operating a seminary is not an add on function of a priory.  It is a separate and critical function for forming GOOD priests not rolling out cassocks stamped resistance. The warm body theory does not hold in matters of the priesthood.

    Operating a seminary is a primary function, not a secondary one. That should always be kept in mind.

    On a personal note, I would say that it is time to stop pretending, and high time to get serious.


    NOW we're on-topic here. I agree with Manuel Chavez that we don't have to resort to ad-hominems. They just distract us from the truth at hand. And the quoted post above is the SUBSTANCE of my (and others') opposition to the Boston, KY seminary.

    This isn't a feud. This isn't personal. Fr. Pfeiffer's personality doesn't "just rub me the wrong way". If anything, I actually prefer priests who give sermons off-the-cuff. They are usually more interesting and easy to follow.

    So I'm not just "one of those guys that can't appreciate Fr. Pfeiffer". Far from it. I was one of his early supporters, until I was basically FORCED to publicly oppose some of his activities.

    This worse-than-nothing seminary is a perfect example. Pablo is another; and Mr. Ambrose Moran is yet another.

    I'm not going to turn off my brain, not even for a priest I like.
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    « Reply #33 on: October 23, 2015, 03:28:40 PM »
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  • Yes, let's get right down to the point about this, Manuel. You could spend 30 years in that seminary and still have the same net effect: zero. You've already shown to have far more invested in the Pfunny Pfarm than all the rest of us save that demonic entity Pablo, so I imagine this will be a Six Pflags theme park ride for you. For your sake I hope you're reality matches up with the rest of us objectively speaking. Until then, you get the only reward a man can ask for upon putting his soul at such unnecessary risk: due consequences for your reckless actions.

    Drink your own Kool-Aid from now on, no one else wants to hear it.

    Toodles!
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    « Reply #34 on: October 23, 2015, 05:51:22 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
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    A few measures by which to judge if this is in fact a Catholic seminary,

    1) Does it have a full time clerical staff to teach, guide, and watch over the seminarians?  I do not mean layman or part time clerics, but full time, a senior brother or a priest at all times.

    2) Is daily and Sunday Mass always available to the seminarians?

    3) Is  there an established and eccessiastically approved curriculum which is properly structured?

    4) Are the facilities adequate to provide a safe and wholesome study and living environment for the seminarians?

    5) Are the seminarians segregated from daily bustle of the compound and surrounding neighbors so that they might be apart from the "world", and are there accommodations for complete silence and contemplation for interior communion with God?

    6 ) Has the seminary been inspected and approved by a resistance Bishop and his recommendations and corrections followed?



    Comment,  If these basics have not or cannot be met, the seminary should not attempt to operate until they are.  
    If it is already operating without these basics, operation should be suspended until they are present.

    Operating a seminary is not an add on function of a priory.  It is a separate and critical function for forming GOOD priests not rolling out cassocks stamped resistance. The warm body theory does not hold in matters of the priesthood.

    Operating a seminary is a primary function, not a secondary one. That should always be kept in mind.

    On a personal note, I would say that it is time to stop pretending, and high time to get serious.


    NOW we're on-topic here. I agree with Manuel Chavez that we don't have to resort to ad-hominems. They just distract us from the truth at hand. And the quoted post above is the SUBSTANCE of my (and others') opposition to the Boston, KY seminary.

    This isn't a feud. This isn't personal. Fr. Pfeiffer's personality doesn't "just rub me the wrong way". If anything, I actually prefer priests who give sermons off-the-cuff. They are usually more interesting and easy to follow.

    So I'm not just "one of those guys that can't appreciate Fr. Pfeiffer". Far from it. I was one of his early supporters, until I was basically FORCED to publicly oppose some of his activities.

    This worse-than-nothing seminary is a perfect example. Pablo is another; and Mr. Ambrose Moran is yet another.

    I'm not going to turn off my brain, not even for a priest I like.


    You are 100% correct. This is not a question of this or that person as we all assume the good intent of our fellow Catholics, especially priests.

    It is about the concrete factor and logistics of forming a resistance group, a seminary, a priory, or a chapel, etc.

    Certain things are needed and certain basic rules and procedures must be followed for such enterprises to be proper in the Catholic sense and to be able to succeed in their purpose.

    I had assumed that with common sense they had been done, but now, finding out the shamble that has passed for a Catholic seminary and the disjointed and disorganized fashion in which the priests are flitting from place to place, who knows where or when with no real discernible pattern or larger strategy is to say the least disappointing and shocking.
    This is before considering a questionable cleric having been introduced into this chapel circuit with no consultation with a "resistance" bishop or the enmity and hostility between the priests and other priests and bishops.  It is not easily understandable how this has come about, save the intervention of a devil.

    This thread would be more accurately titled "30 Days in the Seminary that would be, but is not."

    It is time for these folks to get off of the soap stand and get serious about what they are doing.


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    « Reply #35 on: October 23, 2015, 10:30:07 PM »
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  • It is axiomatic that if a seminary does not have any students, it is no longer a seminary.
    (I think it may have been an uncle on my father's side who used to say that.)


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    « Reply #36 on: October 24, 2015, 07:17:29 AM »
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  • Quote from: ManuelChavez
    So ... I suppose you're not going to read the blog, then. That's too bad.

    The door's always open, though, and I'll leave a light on for you.

    And the Kool-Aid is chilling in the fridge, in case you're interested.


    That's alright. If I'm ever in Jonestown, I'll bring a packet of mix to sprinkle in your honor.
    Fortuna finem habet.

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    « Reply #37 on: October 24, 2015, 08:23:39 AM »
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  • Quote from: TheRealMcCoy
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    Is there a seminary in Boston, KY?  How many seminarians are enrolled for next term?  Why talk about spending 30 days there, if, in fact, there is really no seminary at all?    


    Aren't you going down to help out?


    I thumbed up this post only for comic value.  :clown:


    Rightly so, that was the intent     :laugh1:


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    « Reply #38 on: October 24, 2015, 08:30:22 AM »
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    Yes, let's get right down to the point about this, Manuel. You could spend 30 years in that seminary and still have the same net effect: zero. You've already shown to have far more invested in the Pfunny Pfarm than all the rest of us save that demonic entity Pablo, so I imagine this will be a Six Pflags theme park ride for you. For your sake I hope you're reality matches up with the rest of us objectively speaking. Until then, you get the only reward a man can ask for upon putting his soul at such unnecessary risk: due consequences for your reckless actions.

    Drink your own Kool-Aid from now on, no one else wants to hear it.

    Toodles!


    So ... I suppose you're not going to read the blog, then. That's too bad.

    The door's always open, though, and I'll leave a light on for you.

    And the Kool-Aid is chilling in the fridge, in case you're interested.


    Manuel, seriously no one is interested in what is going on there until the deficits and problems have been properly resolved.  Otherwise it is just a distraction.

    Let us conclude this matter of the questionable cleric who is being used to service the Kentuckian's chapels and let the "seminary" problems be resolved and approved by a resistance Bishop and then we'll talk.

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    « Reply #39 on: October 26, 2015, 03:08:19 AM »
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  • For heaven;s sake. This ridiculous blog is just a PR attempt to whitewash the cult that is Boston, Kentucky. As if the boss, Paul Hernandez will let you speak the truth. At least you are not a woman helping out there who will be harassed or threatened by this boss.

    More importantly what help is there for those who wish to get away from the place?

    Is there anyone out there who could offer French lessons to help those with a vocation who wish to go to a real seminary, that of Bishop Faure in France.

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    « Reply #40 on: October 26, 2015, 05:21:48 AM »
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    For heaven;s sake. This ridiculous blog is just a PR attempt to whitewash the cult that is Boston, Kentucky. As if the boss, Paul Hernandez will let you speak the truth. At least you are not a woman helping out there who will be harassed or threatened by this boss.
     The ones that were harassed left already.

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    More importantly what help is there for those who wish to get away from the place?
    Get in your car and drive far away.  Or walk.  Run.  There are locals who can help those who otherwise would be homeless to escape.  

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    Is there anyone out there who could offer French lessons to help those with a vocation who wish to go to a real seminary, that of Bishop Faure in France.
     Yes.  PM me for details.


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    « Reply #41 on: October 26, 2015, 06:25:26 AM »
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  • Oh boy! This is the silliest thread on CathInfo ever. The only redeeming features are J.Paul's list and a few witticisms. I just can't believe it's for real!
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    « Reply #42 on: October 26, 2015, 07:17:20 AM »
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    Oh boy! This is the silliest thread on CathInfo ever. The only redeeming features are J.Paul's list and a few witticisms. I just can't believe it's for real!


    I can.

    Boston has shown it's desperation already with this fake bishop.  Fr. Chazal called it right by telling these Mickey Mouses to go to disneyçand with goofy and donald and see how it's really done.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #43 on: October 26, 2015, 07:58:43 AM »
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    For heaven;s sake. This ridiculous blog is just a PR attempt to whitewash the cult that is Boston, Kentucky. As if the boss, Paul Hernandez will let you speak the truth. At least you are not a woman helping out there who will be harassed or threatened by this boss.

    More importantly what help is there for those who wish to get away from the place?

    Is there anyone out there who could offer French lessons to help those with a vocation who wish to go to a real seminary, that of Bishop Faure in France.


    Pablo is not my boss. I will say what I wish to say. This is not a PR campaign, as I am writing the blog of my own accord, and not the whims of Pablo or the commands of Father Pfeiffer.

    You mock what you do not understand.

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    « Reply #44 on: October 26, 2015, 08:30:52 AM »
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  • Quote from: ManuelChavez
    Jazz is not from Satan. The roots of Jazz includes Gospel and Church music, folk, various cultural musical expressions,...



    Even a modernist like Benedict got it right.

    Quote from: Benedict

    other Christian denominations are not true churches



    Unless you meant Catholic Church music.


    Is this guy one of Pfeiffer's seminarians?
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...