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Offline John Grace

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« on: December 13, 2012, 01:57:05 PM »
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  • http://www.sspx.org/third_orders/tosf/tosf_directors_letter_12-8-2012.pdf
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    Third Order Website: sspx.org =>Third Orders =>St. Francis of Assisi  
    We are very pleased to announce that Father Rostand, our District Superior, has
    encouraged the publication of our website within the links of the US District website. I wish
    to express, on behalf of our Tertiaries, our sincere gratitude to Father Rostand, but also to
    Fr. Duverger and Mr. Louis Tofari, the District Webmaster, for their support and the work
    they have done which have resulted in this publication. I would like to suggest that going
    forward, you use our US website rather the Canadian site. The Canadian website is run by a
    layman who has recently taken a position against Bishop Fellay and our superiors. In no can
    I recommend or support his work which apparently does not have any ecclesiastical
    supervision. I cannot either encourage our Tertiaries to correspond with him or to visit his
    website, however attractive or well-docuмented it appears to be, it is simply dangerous.  
    Even though this person does not use his TOSF website to attack Bishop Fellay and our
    Society, the negative attitude of this person against the legitimate authority of Bishop Fellay
    and of our superiors is subversive and is certainly not animated by the spirit of Saint
    Francis. It is, then, my duty to warn you, since it is the responsibility of the shepherd to
    keep the wolf away from his sheep. Beware of the wolf!
     

    Don't laugh too hard! :roll-laugh1:


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    « Reply #1 on: December 13, 2012, 02:23:35 PM »
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    Third Order Website: sspx.org =>Third Orders =>St. Francis of Assisi  
    We are very pleased to announce that Father Rostand, our District Superior, has
    encouraged the publication of our website within the links of the US District website. I wish to express, on behalf of our Tertiaries, our sincere gratitude to Father Rostand, but also to Fr. Duverger and Mr. Louis Tofari, the District Webmaster, for their support and the work they have done which have resulted in this publication. I would like to suggest that going forward, you use our US website rather the Canadian site. The Canadian website is run by a layman who has recently taken a position against Bishop Fellay and our superiors. In no can
    I recommend or support his work which apparently does not have any ecclesiastical supervision. I cannot either encourage our Tertiaries to correspond with him or to visit his website, however attractive or well-docuмented it appears to be, it is simply dangerous.  
    Even though this person does not use his TOSF website to attack Bishop Fellay and our Society, the negative attitude of this person against the legitimate authority of Bishop Fellay and of our superiors is subversive and is certainly not animated by the spirit of Saint Francis. It is, then, my duty to warn you, since it is the responsibility of the shepherd to keep the wolf away from his sheep. Beware of the wolf!
     

    Don't laugh too hard! :roll-laugh1:


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    "I cannot either encourage our Tertiaries to correspond with him or to visit his website, however attractive or well-docuмented it appears to be, it is simply dangerous."  

    Gee...I guess a web site "well-docuмented" is not worthy to look at.  Nor to inquire into some truth -if it is "well docuмented".  Or is it because it is really "well docuмented" that you are not suppose to look at it?

    Interestingly, when you go to the link, it was written by Fr. Jacques Emily, the Prior of the retreat house in Los Gatos, Ca.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 13, 2012, 02:24:55 PM »
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  • Quote from: John Grace
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    I would like to suggest that going
    forward, you use our US website rather the Canadian site. The Canadian website is run by a
    layman who has recently taken a position against Bishop Fellay and our superiors. In no can
    I recommend or support his work which apparently does not have any ecclesiastical
    supervision. I cannot either encourage our Tertiaries to correspond with him or to visit his
    website, however attractive or well-docuмented it appears to be, it is simply dangerous.  
     

    Don't laugh too hard! :roll-laugh1:


    Can someone give us a link to this "dangerous" website?  

    Is this it?

    http://thetraditionalthirdorderofstfrancis.blogspot.com/

    A quick glance and it does look pretty dangerous!   :scared2:



     :laugh1:

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    « Reply #3 on: December 13, 2012, 02:31:58 PM »
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  • Oh, this is a good wolf
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #4 on: December 13, 2012, 05:00:31 PM »
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  • Hey, Neo-Franciscan Third Order, listen up:

    Non Habemus Papam


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    « Reply #5 on: December 13, 2012, 05:04:19 PM »
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    Oh, this is a good wolf


    superb Incred.

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    « Reply #6 on: December 13, 2012, 05:39:50 PM »
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  • think you made a mistake, AF, you put a layman's photo where fr nely's should have been..... simple mistake..........

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    « Reply #7 on: December 13, 2012, 05:53:03 PM »
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  • It's
     :dwarf:
    MAAAAX
    O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
    Praised be Jesus ad Mary!

    "Is minic a gheibhean beal oscailt diog dunta"


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    « Reply #8 on: December 13, 2012, 05:54:43 PM »
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  • whats he doing in fr nely's place......  

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    « Reply #9 on: December 13, 2012, 05:55:49 PM »
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  • whats he doing in the SSPX...
    O Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee!
    Praised be Jesus ad Mary!

    "Is minic a gheibhean beal oscailt diog dunta"

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    « Reply #10 on: December 13, 2012, 06:00:23 PM »
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  •  :shocked:   OMG This might actually be a new

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    Have they no earthly idea of how this makes them sound? Did it sound okay in French or something?



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    « Reply #11 on: December 13, 2012, 06:03:09 PM »
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  • Quote from: PAT317
    Quote from: John Grace
    http://www.sspx.org/third_orders/tosf/tosf_directors_letter_12-8-2012.pdf
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    I would like to suggest that going
    forward, you use our US website rather the Canadian site. The Canadian website is run by a
    layman who has recently taken a position against Bishop Fellay and our superiors. In no can
    I recommend or support his work which apparently does not have any ecclesiastical
    supervision. I cannot either encourage our Tertiaries to correspond with him or to visit his
    website, however attractive or well-docuмented it appears to be, it is simply dangerous.  
     

    Don't laugh too hard! :roll-laugh1:


    Can someone give us a link to this "dangerous" website?  

    Is this it?

    http://thetraditionalthirdorderofstfrancis.blogspot.com/

    A quick glance and it does look pretty dangerous!   :scared2:



     :laugh1:


    The Order of Penance of St. Francis is a Traditional Third Order, we (in Canada) are under the Traditional Capuchins in Morgon France, our Superior of the Third Order Secular is Fr. Francois-Marie at the Novitiate convent in Arenque France, unlike the New Third Order of St. Francis in the U.S. (found at the SSPX U.S.A. website) which as stated by Fr. Emily is under the SSPX with "input from" the Capuchins in Morgon France. Also if you go to the U.S. website for the Third Order it will be found that they have instituted their own method of sifting through applicants which is contrary to the "rules and constitutions" of the Traditional Third Order. All very disturbing, you just try and tell me that there isn't something very wrong with the current SSPX. I remember as soon as they started telling me that I couldn't read Archbisdhop Lefevbre on my own (without their interpretation) that something stunk.  :detective:
    "The greatest obstacle in the apostolate of the Church is the timidity or rather the cowardice of the faithful."

    Pope St. Pius X

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    « Reply #12 on: December 13, 2012, 06:15:15 PM »
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  • Quote from: Machabees
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    http://www.sspx.org/third_orders/tosf/tosf_directors_letter_12-8-2012.pdf
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    Third Order Website: sspx.org =>Third Orders =>St. Francis of Assisi  
    We are very pleased to announce that Father Rostand, our District Superior, has
    encouraged the publication of our website within the links of the US District website. I wish to express, on behalf of our Tertiaries, our sincere gratitude to Father Rostand, but also to Fr. Duverger and Mr. Louis Tofari, the District Webmaster, for their support and the work they have done which have resulted in this publication. I would like to suggest that going forward, you use our US website rather the Canadian site. The Canadian website is run by a layman who has recently taken a position against Bishop Fellay and our superiors. In no can
    I recommend or support his work which apparently does not have any ecclesiastical supervision. I cannot either encourage our Tertiaries to correspond with him or to visit his website, however attractive or well-docuмented it appears to be, it is simply dangerous.  
    Even though this person does not use his TOSF website to attack Bishop Fellay and our Society, the negative attitude of this person against the legitimate authority of Bishop Fellay and of our superiors is subversive and is certainly not animated by the spirit of Saint Francis. It is, then, my duty to warn you, since it is the responsibility of the shepherd to keep the wolf away from his sheep. Beware of the wolf!
     

    Don't laugh too hard! :roll-laugh1:


    Quote:
    "I cannot either encourage our Tertiaries to correspond with him or to visit his website, however attractive or well-docuмented it appears to be, it is simply dangerous."  

    Gee...I guess a web site "well-docuмented" is not worthy to look at.  Nor to inquire into some truth -if it is "well docuмented".  Or is it because it is really "well docuмented" that you are not suppose to look at it?

    Interestingly, when you go to the link, it was written by Fr. Jacques Emily, the Prior of the retreat house in Los Gatos, Ca.


    John Adams said that facts are stubborn things.  It seems that in Bishop Fellay's universe, facts are also dangerous things.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #13 on: December 13, 2012, 06:18:08 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mary Therese
    Quote from: PAT317
    Quote from: John Grace
    http://www.sspx.org/third_orders/tosf/tosf_directors_letter_12-8-2012.pdf
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    I would like to suggest that going
    forward, you use our US website rather the Canadian site. The Canadian website is run by a
    layman who has recently taken a position against Bishop Fellay and our superiors. In no can
    I recommend or support his work which apparently does not have any ecclesiastical
    supervision. I cannot either encourage our Tertiaries to correspond with him or to visit his
    website, however attractive or well-docuмented it appears to be, it is simply dangerous.  
     

    Don't laugh too hard! :roll-laugh1:


    Can someone give us a link to this "dangerous" website?  

    Is this it?

    http://thetraditionalthirdorderofstfrancis.blogspot.com/

    A quick glance and it does look pretty dangerous!   :scared2:



     :laugh1:


    The Order of Penance of St. Francis is a Traditional Third Order, we (in Canada) are under the Traditional Capuchins in Morgon France, our Superior of the Third Order Secular is Fr. Francois-Marie at the Novitiate convent in Arenque France, unlike the New Third Order of St. Francis in the U.S. (found at the SSPX U.S.A. website) which as stated by Fr. Emily is under the SSPX with "input from" the Capuchins in Morgon France. Also if you go to the U.S. website for the Third Order it will be found that they have instituted their own method of sifting through applicants which is contrary to the "rules and constitutions" of the Traditional Third Order. All very disturbing, you just try and tell me that there isn't something very wrong with the current SSPX. I remember as soon as they started telling me that I couldn't read Archbisdhop Lefevbre on my own (without their interpretation) that something stunk.  :detective:


    Gee, someone from the SSPX great and powerful lied?  No one could have seen that coming.

     :wink:
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #14 on: December 13, 2012, 06:21:31 PM »
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    :shocked:   OMG This might actually be a new

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    Have they no earthly idea of how this makes them sound? Did it sound okay in French or something?





    Drat, the ink dried, anyway, I take it back. This isn't a new low after all. I can think of a few things they have done that are  worse[/i]