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« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2014, 05:53:07 PM »
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    ..as he continues to fret and bite his nails.


    If he continues to 'fret and bite his nails' I will continue to encourage him, reprove, entreat in patience and doctrine.

    Was there ever a time when someone did the same for you, or were you born with infused knowledge and a full measure of virtue ?





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    « Reply #61 on: April 17, 2014, 06:07:02 PM »
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    A great ship went down, many people end up in the water, two lucky ones found a dingy each.

    Mr Dingy 1 shouts to the others in the water : you idiots are wrong to be in the water, I am right to be in the dingy, get lost !

    Mr Dingy 2 reaches out to them : you better get out of the water and get into my dingy, it'll be better for you.

    Mr Dingy 2 has charity. Mr Dingy 1 has not.

    Does that make Mr Dingy 2 a 'woman', a wimp, unable to think, acting on feelings only, weak, coward, useless in a fight ?

    Charity covers a multitude of sins and pride comes before the fall.



    Quite the analogy, but okay, I'll bit . . . like the shark that you think I am!

    Mr. Dingy 2 would be a 'woman', a wimp, unable to think, acting on feelings only, weak, coward, useless in a fight, if, after he said:
    "you better get out of the water and get into my dingy, it'll be better for you" HE THEN SAYS: "I retract my opinions." And, on more than one occasion, while watching the others drown as he continues to fret and bite his nails.

    But, you know, Mr. Nobody, you are being uncharitable to the core, because you harp on these things. Others, like myself, just throw it out there and hope/pray that the words nudge someone to rethink their sloppy thinking!



    II Timothy 4:2 : "Preach the word: be instant in season, out of season: reprove, entreat, rebuke in all patience and doctrine."

    I Corinthians 13:1-4 : "If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2 And if I should have prophecy and should know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I should have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3 And if I should distribute all my goods to feed the poor, and if I should deliver my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely, is not puffed up,.."


    I guess the author of these verses was 'harping' too, and forgot to 'throw it out there' like you do.

    I Corinthians 10:12 : "Wherefore, he that thinketh himself to stand, let him take heed lest he fall."


    Okay, you set the example then, and provide me with viable templates to "rebuke in all patience". I am your willing protégé.

    Take your time, too, because I have to go pack. I am going away for the weekend. I will check the site late tomorrow afternoon - it's 7:07 p.m. here, right now.

    Ta, ta until then!


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    « Reply #62 on: April 17, 2014, 06:18:04 PM »
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    ..as he continues to fret and bite his nails.


    If he continues to 'fret and bite his nails' I will continue to encourage him, reprove, entreat in patience and doctrine.

    Was there ever a time when someone did the same for you, or were you born with infused knowledge and a full measure of virtue ?






    Yah, I got these from priests (just a few, I don't want anyone to get jealous):

    You are stiff-necked like the Jєωs.

    Take the bridle and listen.

    You're on your way to Hell.


    Infused knowledge? - I'm still praying for that!

    Full measure of virtue? Get between me and the confessional and I'll flatten you!



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    « Reply #63 on: April 26, 2014, 09:42:36 PM »
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    If your position is this then I commend you, and I hope you will stick to it.

    But like I said, given your resistance friends on this forum, I have my doubts, but what am I, nothing, except a potential source of cash for priests when I go to latin mass.

    I cannot, in good conscience, find affinity in the scandalous posters like neil obstat and others. That is just me, but maybe being new to the SSPX is a good thing, because I retain my outside perspective. I know people dont want to lose the tradition they have grew up with, but they have lost sight of the big picture, they must be part of the church. The faith does not provide for a situation where a part of the church is permitted to stay independent of the others, we as Catholics believe in communion with other Catholics, and that means being part of the church and under the same pope. Btw I dont read the posts of neil obstat anymore. The reasons are obvious. Anyone who looks at this forum who is not in the resistance will share my views and will see my point. People can down thumb me all they want, but it does not change the facts that the big picture is on my side, and that no one, except the most convoluted weirdo will be drawn to the resistance, with all of its cօռspιʀαcιҽs and hatred of the SSPX "apostates and communists and modernists". Surely this whole thing is ridiculous. It is truly obscene. The SSPX are now "modernists" according to your friends??

    Let me ask those who down thumbed me: What right have you got to contradict a validly consecrated Catholic Bishop who spent a life time promoting tradition? You think he has just lost the faith or something? But where is YOUR faith?

    I speak of course of Bishop Fellay. ( the "weasel" according to Bishop williamson)

    We are just lay people. We cannot question the hierarchy. The church does not work like that.
    To think otherwise shows that traditionalists are becoming infected with the protestant spirt.



    Aarrrrghhhhh . . . reading your post is like being subjected to a verbal Chinese water torture . . .


    His posts make me feel like I've been crammed head-first onto a tilt-a-whirl ride and forced to read gibberish in upside down olde English as I'm spun at maximum speed.

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    « Reply #64 on: April 27, 2014, 11:45:54 AM »
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    If your position is this then I commend you, and I hope you will stick to it.

    But like I said, given your resistance friends on this forum, I have my doubts, but what am I, nothing, except a potential source of cash for priests when I go to latin mass.

    I cannot, in good conscience, find affinity in the scandalous posters like neil obstat and others. That is just me, but maybe being new to the SSPX is a good thing, because I retain my outside perspective. I know people dont want to lose the tradition they have grew up with, but they have lost sight of the big picture, they must be part of the church. The faith does not provide for a situation where a part of the church is permitted to stay independent of the others, we as Catholics believe in communion with other Catholics, and that means being part of the church and under the same pope. Btw I dont read the posts of neil obstat anymore. The reasons are obvious. Anyone who looks at this forum who is not in the resistance will share my views and will see my point. People can down thumb me all they want, but it does not change the facts that the big picture is on my side, and that no one, except the most convoluted weirdo will be drawn to the resistance, with all of its cօռspιʀαcιҽs and hatred of the SSPX "apostates and communists and modernists". Surely this whole thing is ridiculous. It is truly obscene. The SSPX are now "modernists" according to your friends??

    Let me ask those who down thumbed me: What right have you got to contradict a validly consecrated Catholic Bishop who spent a life time promoting tradition? You think he has just lost the faith or something? But where is YOUR faith?

    I speak of course of Bishop Fellay. ( the "weasel" according to Bishop williamson)

    We are just lay people. We cannot question the hierarchy. The church does not work like that.
    To think otherwise shows that traditionalists are becoming infected with the protestant spirt.



    Aarrrrghhhhh . . . reading your post is like being subjected to a verbal Chinese water torture . . .


    His posts make me feel like I've been crammed head-first onto a tilt-a-whirl ride and forced to read gibberish in upside down olde English as I'm spun at maximum speed.




    Thanks - I was beginning to think I was the only one . . . you should read is most recent in the General section, under Congrats to the new saints - total contradiction of many things he has said in the past. Be careful, though, this problem child has many caretakers![/color]  :baby:


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    « Reply #65 on: April 27, 2014, 03:42:14 PM »
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    If your position is this then I commend you, and I hope you will stick to it.

    But like I said, given your resistance friends on this forum, I have my doubts, but what am I, nothing, except a potential source of cash for priests when I go to latin mass.

    I cannot, in good conscience, find affinity in the scandalous posters like neil obstat and others. That is just me, but maybe being new to the SSPX is a good thing, because I retain my outside perspective. I know people dont want to lose the tradition they have grew up with, but they have lost sight of the big picture, they must be part of the church. The faith does not provide for a situation where a part of the church is permitted to stay independent of the others, we as Catholics believe in communion with other Catholics, and that means being part of the church and under the same pope. Btw I dont read the posts of neil obstat anymore. The reasons are obvious. Anyone who looks at this forum who is not in the resistance will share my views and will see my point. People can down thumb me all they want, but it does not change the facts that the big picture is on my side, and that no one, except the most convoluted weirdo will be drawn to the resistance, with all of its cօռspιʀαcιҽs and hatred of the SSPX "apostates and communists and modernists". Surely this whole thing is ridiculous. It is truly obscene. The SSPX are now "modernists" according to your friends??

    Let me ask those who down thumbed me: What right have you got to contradict a validly consecrated Catholic Bishop who spent a life time promoting tradition? You think he has just lost the faith or something? But where is YOUR faith?

    I speak of course of Bishop Fellay. ( the "weasel" according to Bishop williamson)

    We are just lay people. We cannot question the hierarchy. The church does not work like that.
    To think otherwise shows that traditionalists are becoming infected with the protestant spirt.



    Aarrrrghhhhh . . . reading your post is like being subjected to a verbal Chinese water torture . . .


    His posts make me feel like I've been crammed head-first onto a tilt-a-whirl ride and forced to read gibberish in upside down olde English as I'm spun at maximum speed.




    Thanks - I was beginning to think I was the only one . . . you should read is most recent in the General section, under Congrats to the new saints - total contradiction of many things he has said in the past. Be careful, though, this problem child has many caretakers![/color]  :baby:


    This problem child has no caretakers, if anybody cared for him they would nurse him back to spiritual health and common sense; some mother's milk from Holy Mother Church might help. But note well-- he's "new to the SSPX", yet he already knows that he's "just a source of cash to the priests when he attends the Latin Mass." Boy, it didn 't take him long to realize that Fellay just wants his cash!

    But, then again, how dare we "contradict Fellay, who was validly consecrated and spent his lifetime promoting tradition?" How would this poor soul who is "new to the SSPX," know whether Fellay was validly consecrated?? Doesn't he know that his buddy, John Paul excommunicated Fellay???  That's right-- kicked him straight out of the Roman  concliar church--lock,stock and barrel!
    Doesn't he know that Fellay accepted "consecration" at the hands of Bishop Antonio de Castro Meyer-- who rejected ALL of the Vatican II? He rejected all its dicuмents, all its teachings, all its heresies, and ALL the popes coming from the council!

    Doesn't this poor soul realize that Fellay was ordained and consecrated by an enemy of the conciliarists in Rome? By an opponent of Ratzinger, whom Lefebvre said was not even a Catholic? Doesn't he realize that Fellay was ordained by a bishop suspended from all priestly functions?

    So why be so concerned that "you are only a source of cash for the priest when you attend the latin mass?" What do they presby-ters expect of you on the other days, when you don't attend the Latin mass?
       And since Fellay was consecrated by an open sede-vacantist and two excommunicated bishops, how can one say "galidly" consecrated? , especially when one's concilisr church has rejected Fellay, and stated he should turn himself into a monastery for punishment.

       But, more seriously, how can one say Fellay had dedicated his life to tradition? GREC's entire reason for existence is to bring all the traditional groups  INTO the conciliar church; and Fellay has spent almost his entire life as a bishop whoring around with his frllow GRECites and conciliarists to soften the stance, weaken the faith, and surrepticiously slide the SSPX into the false, modernist, conciliar Roman church? Only an uninformed soul can pretend that Fellay has spent his life supporting tradition.

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    « Reply #66 on: April 27, 2014, 07:04:28 PM »
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    Thanks - I was beginning to think I was the only one . . . you should read is most recent in the General section, under Congrats to the new saints - total contradiction of many things he has said in the past. Be careful, though, this problem child has many caretakers![/color]  :baby:


    I could tolerate him if he wasn't always pontificating in a manner that projects that he knows what he's talking about.  Before he got banned (he was previously known as TCat) I warned many times that he would dupe the unwary.  I took a break & came back to see he has several caretakers as you mention.  This is evidence that my concerns have came to fruition.

    I believe he's only been around about a year--yet has 1400+ posts. LoL

    He has talked about going to a deacon for confession and other things that betray his utter lack of catechism.

    He's like the uneducated protestants who just feel a stirring & start preaching.  He lacks the temperament & discipline to ever be a priest.  But I would not be surprised if his ill-directed urge to preach one day leads him to to preaching as a heretic.  That is if he can dupe 10 or 15 followers in real life.

    You can thank LaramieHirsch for his unbanning.  Both of them are knit-wits.

    TCat is a danger to souls and represents true Catholicism poorly.  He has the numbers & such that anybody who stumbles upon CI will thinks he's fairly representative and knows his @$$ from a hole in the ground.

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    « Reply #67 on: April 27, 2014, 07:20:43 PM »
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    TCat is a danger to souls and represents true Catholicism poorly.  He has the numbers & such that anybody who stumbles upon CI will thinks he's fairly representative and knows his @$$ from a hole in the ground.

    If what you say about soulguard is true you don't have to worry about him.
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    « Reply #68 on: April 27, 2014, 07:35:30 PM »
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    TCat is a danger to souls and represents true Catholicism poorly.  He has the numbers & such that anybody who stumbles upon CI will thinks he's fairly representative and knows his @$$ from a hole in the ground.

    If what you say about soulguard is true you don't have to worry about him.


    Why do you say?

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    « Reply #69 on: April 27, 2014, 08:00:20 PM »
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    Why do you say?

    Because he doesn't know a lot about the faith, he wouldn't lead anyone astray.
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