Author Topic: The Resistance and the Pre-1955 Holy Week (and Missal): (Read 18455 times)

PG · « **Reply #75 on:** April 26, 2014, 11:06:00 PM »

Ambrose - War can change a man(and a Pope). And, do you have with amnesia? We have been into this before on the forum; you 100% agreed that he approved of rhythm for grave reasons(and you accepted it).

Ambrose · « **Reply #76 on:** April 27, 2014, 12:44:10 AM »

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Ambrose - War can change a man(and a Pope). And, do you have with amnesia? We have been into this before on the forum; you 100% agreed that he approved of rhythm for grave reasons(and you accepted it).

I do not have amnesia, but thanks for your concern about my health.

Regarding the teaching of Pius XII, yes, I agreed that he taught the lawful use of the sterile times for grave reasons. This is a matter of public record, so anyone with the ability to read, and access to his teaching will agree on what he taught.

That is not the same as saying in a vague manner that he taught birth control, as you implied.

PG · « **Reply #77 on:** April 27, 2014, 01:25:36 AM »

Ambrose - 2+2=4. 2+2 cannot = 4 and = 5!

"which aims at depriving it of its inherent force and hinders the procreation of new life is immoral"

A new "aim" is now allowed(for "grave reasons")!

The latter came later, and Pius xii died in the latter!

Ambrose · « **Reply #78 on:** April 27, 2014, 07:54:34 AM »

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Ambrose - 2+2=4. 2+2 cannot = 4 and = 5!

"which aims at depriving it of its inherent force and hinders the procreation of new life is immoral"

A new "aim" is now allowed(for "grave reasons")!

The latter came later, and Pius xii died in the latter!

I agree, 2 + 2 cannot equal both 4 and 5

JPaul · « **Reply #79 on:** April 27, 2014, 10:24:14 AM »

So, the question remains as to whether the "resistance" will take advantage of this opportunity to dispense with the Conciliar extraordinary missal and adopt an earlier and unquestionably sound and Catholic missal?

I do not believe that they should feel bound to ABL's accommodation to the Conciliarists nor should they feel compelled to make the same compromise to what is clearly an apostate entity.

Let us see what they are made of, and if they are willing to resist something beyond Bishop Fellay.