Author Topic: The Resistance and the Pre-1955 Holy Week (and Missal): (Read 18363 times)

hugeman · « **Reply #10 on:** April 19, 2014, 02:36:02 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Fr. Pfeiffer, when he was up here on Palm Sunday, used the old ritual.

I really think it depends on what is provided to them. If a Mass center provides Fr. Pfeiffer with the modernized Holy Week rituals, they'll do that, but if a Mass center would provide the old version, he would do that.

If the Mass centers would uniformly provide the old Holy Week ritual, by giving them the old missal (the 1945 missal is the one we have up here) they would provide us with the received and approved rites as it should be.

Sean,

Thanks for posting this :
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2010/07/reform-of-holy-week-in-years-1951-1956.html

it gives everybody excellent background material-- even those newer to tradition to help understand what all the 'fuss" is about.

To address the other question,
We need to bear in mind that the SSPX priests, including fathers Pfeiffer, Chazal, etc., have been "under the influence" of the accordistas for a long, long time. Thankfully, Bishop Williamson announced that he would be using the "pre-1962" liturgical books for Holy week. Father Pfeiffer, in Danbury, used the 19550-56 liturgy for Good Friday ( which was essentially, I believe, the same as the 1948 liturgies). Why he's following the new rites for Holy Saturday, I don't know. Hopefully, it will not depend on what his parishioners provide for him, because priests need to know to lead us. However, I can understand the comment. When I called one of the Resistance Mass centers' leaders and asked which Missal Father will follow for Good Friday, I was told "I don't know." Some in the resistance do not yet realize that we are in this battle because (in part) the Catholics simply did not care what was going on-- but we hope and pray that they are waking up to the serious nature of even "small, seemingly insignificant nature ( as your post explains) of the dastardly changes.

magdalena · « **Reply #11 on:** April 19, 2014, 02:37:26 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

Fr. Pfeiffer, when he was up here on Palm Sunday, used the old ritual.

I really think it depends on what is provided to them. If a Mass center provides Fr. Pfeiffer with the modernized Holy Week rituals, they'll do that, but if a Mass center would provide the old version, he would do that.

If the Mass centers would uniformly provide the old Holy Week ritual, by giving them the old missal (the 1945 missal is the one we have up here) they would provide us with the received and approved rites as it should be.

Well then, we have our work cut out for us, don't we? But I would like to see them committed to the cause. Could one even imagine the graces poured out on them if they were to abandon the Bugnini Mass altogether?

cantatedomino · « **Reply #12 on:** April 19, 2014, 03:42:38 PM »

If ever a question needs to be examined, it is this one.

Sean - thanks so much for getting behind this one!

Domitilla · « **Reply #13 on:** April 19, 2014, 04:45:04 PM »

"Suppose, dear friend, that Communism (one of "the errors of Russia" mentioned in the Message of Fatima) was only the most visible of the instruments of subversion to be used against the Church and the Traditions of Divine Revelation ..."

"I am worried by the Blessed Virgin's messages to Lucy of Fatima. This persistence of Mary about the dangers which menace the Church is a divine warning against the ѕυιcιdє of altering the Faith, in Her Liturgy, Her Theology, and Her Soul ..."

"I hear all around me innovators who wish to dismantle the Sacred Chapel, destroy the universal flame of the Church, reject Her ornaments and make Her feel remorse for Her historical past."

"A day will come when the civilized world will deny its God, when the Church will doubt as Peter doubted. She will be tempted to believe that man has become God. In our Churches, Christians will search in vain for the red lamp where God awaits them, like Mary Magdalene weeping before the empty tomb, they will ask, "where have they taken Him?" (Quoted in the book. PIUS XII DEVANT L'HISTOIRE, pp 52-53, by Msgy Georges Roche)

Yes, the "ѕυιcιdє of altering the Faith, in Her Liturgy, Her Theology, and Her Soul". Has not this sad Papal statement come to pass in our day? Kyrie Eleison.

Yesterday, a friend and I attended Good Friday Services according to the 1948 Missal (no Holy Communion for the faithful - as it should be!) It was beautiful!! Friends, we really have lost the beautiful treasures of our patrimony. Holy Week and Holy Mass according to the 1962 Missal (Bugnini's innovations) are poor and weakened substitutions. Now is the perfect time to begin the restoration of our beautiful Holy Catholic Liturgy and fully open the channels of God's Grace upon us.

Our Lady of Fatima, please pray for us poor sinners!

cantatedomino · « **Reply #14 on:** April 19, 2014, 05:32:16 PM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson

I wanted to ask the question, beacuse, leaving all other issues aside, it seemed to me that the advent of the Resistance might provide an opportunity to recover that which was lost by Bugnini from 1951 (in the case of Holy Week) on.

It is good to narrow the question, but it is also good to widen the question.

With the advent of the so-called resistance, the entire Deposit of Faith needs to be re-taught, re-stated, and re-embraced with the zealous certitude and the very freshness with which Jesus Christ - the Same yesterday, today, and tomorrow, the Beginning and the End, the Alpha and the Omega - perfumes all the things that pertain to Him.