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« on: April 08, 2014, 04:54:06 PM »
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    Does anyone know whether The Recusant has ceased publishing a monthly newspaper?

    The last issue I am aware of was in February.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    « Reply #1 on: April 08, 2014, 07:41:50 PM »
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  • That's the last one that is on their site also, I hope there will be more issues.  If I remember correctly is a volunteer operation so perhaps real world needs took precedence in March?

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    « Reply #2 on: April 09, 2014, 02:36:12 AM »
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  • We put together a couple hundred this past weekend

    Issue 15   March/April  44 pages  (22 before folding!)

    Check your postman

    bye and GB

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    « Reply #3 on: April 09, 2014, 03:16:26 AM »
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    Maybe the Donate button was the most important one on the website.  

    There have been gentle reminders in a couple of issues, for those who are getting monthly mailings.  

    If you go to TheRecusant.com you'll see a nice comment from Ed. regarding the great Fr. Girouard's recent sermon, When Two Bishops Agree............



     "When Two Bishops Agree" - Fr. Girouard
    Posted by The Editor on March 2, 2014 at 3:10 PM    

    Novus Ordo Bishop on his meeting with Bishop Fellay and how agreeable and 'flexible' on the question of the liturgy he was. We strongly recommend you to read Fr. Girouard's article and judge for yourself.

    http://www.sacrificium.org/article/when-two-bishops-agree-hang-something-02-march-2014

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    Incidentally, this is not the first time a Novus Ordo prelate has claimed that Bishop Fellay has said to him something that sounds decidedly liberal-leaning  about the New Mass (in private and off-the-record, of course. When Bishop Fellay thought nobody else was listening...) Many readers will no doubt remember how, just over a year ago, Cardinal Canizares claimed that Bishop Fellay had said something very similar to him:

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/cardinal-if-lefebrve-had-seen-proper-mass-he-may-not-have-split/

    ...of course this was followed immediately by a pompous, officious "official clarification." We little layfolk should be so grateful to Menzingen for constantly "clarifying" things for us. Otherwise, who knows what mistaken impressions we might come away with...? that Bishop Fellay is more liberal in private than in public, for example? So far there has been no official clarification about this latest claim from a Novus Ordo bishop. Perhaps Menzingen are worried about some of the laity getting "clarification-fatigue"? Or perhaps they are hoping that most people won't notice, and the story can be quietly brushed under the carpet? Either way, one might reasonably wonder at Bishop Fellay's uncanny and very unfortunate knack of leaving people with the wrong impression about what he really thinks and where he really stands...

        "As very often," said Bishop Fellay in his clarification, "a phrase was interpreted badly."

     

    Quite. As very often.









    It is utterly astounding how this one man in Menzingen has somehow managed to hoodwink the majority of SSPX faithful over the entire planet in his agenda of subterfuge.  Most of the loyal regulars, when you present them with facts, they don't want to hear it, and they look for ways of blaming YOU for the message.  "You must be anti-Fellay."  



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    « Reply #4 on: April 09, 2014, 03:26:15 AM »
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    More recently, there's a posting from April 5th regarding Fr. Pivert in France:  



    Via La Sapiniere comes the following encouraging news. In the latest edition of his newsletter "Combat de la Foi" ("The Fght for the Faith"), which was banned even before it had come out, Fr. Pivert adds his signature to the "Address to the Faithful" from January this year, exposes the subversion of the authorities of the SSPX, and announces his intention to help the priests and faithful acting against the betrayal which has taken place.

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    A priest for some 30-odd years, Fr. Pivert is a seasoned veteran of the "old SSPX", widely respected within the French district, who until now had been the prior of the retreat house "Moulin des Pins" in France.

    Those who read French can order a copy of his newsletter (€10) from the following address:

    Mde Séghiri

    Parçay

    86700 Romagne

    FRANCE


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    In case you missed it, the acclaimed "Address to the Faithful" from January this year is one of two great news items you won't find on Fox or ABC or whatever.  The other one was the "Letter in Support of Fr. Altamira from the Colombian Faithful," Bogota, January 10th, A.D. 2014, with 256 signatories.  

    If you don't know, you're missing out.  


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    « Reply #5 on: April 09, 2014, 03:32:07 AM »
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    Maybe the Donate button was the most important one on the website.  

    There have been gentle reminders in a couple of issues, for those who are getting monthly mailings.  

    If you go to TheRecusant.com you'll see a nice comment from Ed. regarding the great Fr. Girouard's recent sermon, When Two Bishops Agree............



     "When Two Bishops Agree" - Fr. Girouard
    Posted by The Editor on March 2, 2014 at 3:10 PM    

    Novus Ordo Bishop on his meeting with Bishop Fellay and how agreeable and 'flexible' on the question of the liturgy he was. We strongly recommend you to read Fr. Girouard's article and judge for yourself.

    http://www.sacrificium.org/article/when-two-bishops-agree-hang-something-02-march-2014

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    Incidentally, this is not the first time a Novus Ordo prelate has claimed that Bishop Fellay has said to him something that sounds decidedly liberal-leaning  about the New Mass (in private and off-the-record, of course. When Bishop Fellay thought nobody else was listening...) Many readers will no doubt remember how, just over a year ago, Cardinal Canizares claimed that Bishop Fellay had said something very similar to him:

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/cardinal-if-lefebrve-had-seen-proper-mass-he-may-not-have-split/

    ...of course this was followed immediately by a pompous, officious "official clarification." We little layfolk should be so grateful to Menzingen for constantly "clarifying" things for us. Otherwise, who knows what mistaken impressions we might come away with...? that Bishop Fellay is more liberal in private than in public, for example? So far there has been no official clarification about this latest claim from a Novus Ordo bishop. Perhaps Menzingen are worried about some of the laity getting "clarification-fatigue"? Or perhaps they are hoping that most people won't notice, and the story can be quietly brushed under the carpet? Either way, one might reasonably wonder at Bishop Fellay's uncanny and very unfortunate knack of leaving people with the wrong impression about what he really thinks and where he really stands...

        "As very often," said Bishop Fellay in his clarification, "a phrase was interpreted badly."

     

    Quite. As very often.









    It is utterly astounding how this one man in Menzingen has somehow managed to hoodwink the majority of SSPX faithful over the entire planet in his agenda of subterfuge.  Most of the loyal regulars, when you present them with facts, they don't want to hear it, and they look for ways of blaming YOU for the message.  "You must be anti-Fellay."  



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    What hits me right away in this is that the "official clarification" promises to provide "this clarification of what he actually said," and then uses no quotation marks at all, leading me to believe that what the clarification contains is nothing in fact of what he actually said, but only what he would now wish that he would have said at the time if he were to have known then what he knows now, such as, that he would be accountable for his own words to the cardinal.

    For the record, here is a copy of the archives page of Bishop Fellay clarifying, before they decide it's no longer useful so they scrub it from the site like they've done with so many other similar pages:  



    a pompous, officious "official clarification."



       
         

       
         
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    What
    Bishop Fellay really said to Cardinal Canizares
    about the
    New Mass
       

    Bishop Bernard Fellay, SSPX Superior General

    1-21-2013

    Cardinal Antonio Canizares, the Prefect for the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, stated to the press on January 15th:

    On one occasion, Bishop (Bernard) Fellay, who is the leader of the Society of St. Pius X, came to see me and said, “We just came from an abbey that is near Florence.  If Archbishop (Marcel) Lefebvre had seen how they celebrated there, he would not have taken the step that he did”… The missal used at that celebration was the Paul VI Missal in its strictest form.[1]

    Bishop Fellay has kindly given sspx.org this clarification of what he actually said, and the context of his words, concerning the Novus Ordo Missae.

    Bishop Fellay clarifies...

    As very often in such circumstances, a phrase has been interpreted badly: I was describing to Cardinal Canizares (and this was some five or six years ago) that the abuses in the liturgy have caused a major reaction amongst us. And this is still the case today, in the sense that the abuses and sacrileges in the sacred liturgy have helped the faithful and even priests to quickly and more fully understand the profound defects and danger of the Novus Ordo - because there is a link between the New Mass and the abuses. The abuses have helped to prove that our position is the right one: that is, the New Mass is not good in itself.

    But this said, from the beginning and before the abuses took place, Archbishop Lefebvre had already refused to celebrate the Novus Ordo Missae. Because the serious omissions and the whole [conciliar] reform, done in an ecumenical spirit, gives it a Protestant savor. The New Mass puts at risk the Catholic Faith and the numerous examples of faithful and priests who have lost the Faith directly linked with the celebration of the Novus Ordo are quite blatant. Nevertheless for a while - and until these new damaging effects were clearly recognized - Archbishop Lefebvre did not strictly prohibit attendance at the New Mass. It was only after a few years that he prohibited the seminarians from going to the New Mass while on their holiday’s vacations.

    Footnote

    1 As reported by Rome Reports on January 16, 2013 in an article entitled, “Cardinal Canizares: The most urgent reform is liturgical formation”.
     
     
     

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    « Reply #6 on: April 09, 2014, 04:44:28 AM »
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    If you take a few minutes to work with what you've got, there is plenty to do even without the issue #15 in your mailbox, yet.................................




    It helped me to make that previous post, because putting it all together in one place like that, it becomes more obvious that the "official clarification" of +F doesn't mention anything about what Cardinal Canizares was talking about, even though +F was claiming to provide the "context" of his words and "what he actually said."  

    There are several things that now fairly jump off the page:  

    1)  If the Cardinal had been under the impression that there was any such context, he would likely have made some mention of that, but he did not.  He gave not a single hint of any such 'context' at all.  

    2)  The so-called context proffered by +F does not even make sense in regards to the statement of the Cardinal.  See Below.  

    3)  What +F provides in his so-called clarification talks about a different topic for 4/5 of the words, and then suddenly at the end he jumps to a side issue regarding the seminarians that only vaguely perhaps possibly is in the remotely distant similar topic, but not really.  See Below.  

    4)  If what +F provides as a clarification were really what he had said to the Cardinal, the Cardinal probably would not have given him the time of day, because that is not anything the Cardinal would have wanted to hear.  Therefore, it is neither the context nor the actual words that +F had used, even if it were what he had in mind at the time, which I highly doubt was the case.  




    Had +F said these things when he had met with the Cardinal, it would have been like this (the bold covers direct quotes from +F's so-called clarification):

    Cardinal Canizares (CC):
    Hello, Bishop Fellay, it's nice to see you today!  Welcome! Come right in to my office!

    +Fellay:
    Thank, you, your Eminence!  It's great to be here.

    CC:
    So, what do you have for me today, some good news?

    +F:
    Oh, I have great news.  Here are a few things I've had on my mind for a long time and I thought you would do well in knowing about it.  Firstly, I have to provide some context.  The abuses in the liturgy have caused a major reaction amongst us.  This is still the case today, in the sense that the abuses and sacrileges in the sacred liturgy have helped the faithful and even priests to quickly and more fully understand the profound defects and danger of the Novus Ordo - because there is a link between the New Mass and the abuses. The abuses have helped to prove that our position is the right one: that is, the New Mass is not good in itself.

    CC:
    Wait a minute.  I thought you said there was some good news.  Do you recall who I am or where you are?  This is my office.  I am Cardinal Canizares.  Are you losing your grip on reality, Bishop Fellay?

    +F:
    Please, forgive me, you Eminence!  I was just trying to provide some context so that later on, like next year or the year after, I can give my eager audience some snippets of some tough talk that we exchanged today.  It's all for internal management, you see.

    CC:
    Oh, I guess then it's not what I thought it was.  All right then, proceed.  Get on to the good news, now, would you, please?

    +F:
    All right, then.  This having been said, from the beginning and before the abuses took place, Archbishop Lefebvre had already refused to celebrate the Novus Ordo Missae. Because the serious omissions and the whole [conciliar] reform, done in an ecumenical spirit, gives it a Protestant savor.

    CC:
    Now just one minute here.  You just told me again that you have some GOOD NEWS for me, and here you go saying that the ORDINARY ROMAN RITE of MASS has a quote, "protestant savor?"  Are you and I from the same PLANET, Bishop Fellay?  Protestant Savor, does it?  Are you saying I am a protestant, your Excellency?

    +F:
    Oh, no, Your Eminence.  I wasn't saying that at all.  It's just that the New Mass puts at risk the Catholic Faith and the numerous examples of faithful and priests who have lost the Faith directly linked with the celebration of the Novus Ordo are quite blatant.

    CC:
    That's it.  I'm calling security.  You are flat-out nuts, man.  You're off your rocker.  I can't afford the insurance premiums I'd have to pay letting you stand here and spout your insanity like this.  Here they are.  Officer, conduct this man to the front door and bid him farewell, because he is a threat to our security here.  

    +F:
    But Your Eminenece!  You haven't heard the best part yet! Nevertheless, for a while - and until these new damaging effects were clearly recognized - Archbishop Lefebvre did not strictly prohibit attendance at the New Mass.

    CC:
    That's right, show him the front door!  (Armed secrurity guards have +F by each elbow and are pulling him down the hallway as +F shouts over his shoulder toward the office of Cardinal Canizares.)

    +F:
    It was only after a few years that he prohibited the seminarians from going to the New Mass while on their holiday’s va-a-a-ca-a-a-a-tio-o-o-o-o-ns!  (+F's voice fades away as Security turns the corner toward the front door.)



    Now, according to this version of +Fellay's, where does the Cardinal arrive at his own version which says the following? (As reported by Rome Reports on January 16, 2013 in an article entitled, “Cardinal Canizares: The most urgent reform is liturgical formation”):  

    Quote from: Rome Reports

    Cardinal Antonio Canizares, the Prefect for the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments, stated to the press on January 15th:

    On one occasion, Bishop (Bernard) Fellay, who is the leader of the Society of St. Pius X, came to see me and said, “We just came from an abbey that is near Florence.  If Archbishop (Marcel) Lefebvre had seen how they celebrated there, he would not have taken the step that he did”… The missal used at that celebration was the Paul VI Missal in its strictest form.





    Maybe I'm not quite imaginative to do it, but try as I may, I cannot find any place in +F's so-called clarification where this version of Cardinal Canizares can fit -- AT ALL.  

    Anyone else who would like to give it a shot  ----- BE MY GUEST!!  


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    « Reply #7 on: April 09, 2014, 04:59:52 AM »
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    The new issue had better hurry up, because we'd be having too much fun in its absence already.  


    I have two more versions ready to roll, if anyone is interested.   And I can't seem to figure out how to make that Cazinares version squeeze into the +Fellay version.  


    H-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-LP!


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    « Reply #8 on: April 09, 2014, 06:42:00 AM »
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  • Does anyone have a copy of the March/April edition they can post here?
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-


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    « Reply #9 on: April 09, 2014, 10:30:11 AM »
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    Does anyone have a copy of the March/April edition they can post here?



    So you'd like someone to post 44 pages here?  You'd better go find Ecclesia Militans because I don't expect anyone else would be willing to undertake that kind of task.

    But then again, by the time he's got a minute to answer your request, it's going to be already after he's finished scanning and posting the PDF of those same 44 pages.  








    ..............Omission: I missed this one factoid.  The linked archives page is headlined in large block letters as follows:

    What
    Bishop Fellay really said to Cardinal Canizares
    about the
    New Mass






    ...............but it looks more like this:


    What
    Bishop Fellay
    really said to
    Cardinal
    Canizares
    about the
    New Mass




    ............... and then the page goes on to provide not a word of quoted text, not a word.  


    The sspx.org archive page is headlined,

    "What Bishop Fellay really said,"

    and then proceeds to offer nothing of what he really said, but only what he WANTS you to THINK that he said, and that is a pile of nonsense.  He wants you to think a bunch of nonsense about what he said,

    "to Cardinal Canizares about the New Mass."



    In other words, the headline is a deception.  
    If it were honest, it would say,


    What
    Bishop Fellay

    would really
    like you to think
    he
    said to
    Cardinal Cazinares
    about the
    New Mass."



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    « Reply #10 on: April 09, 2014, 10:38:47 AM »
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  • I dont see a reference to a March/April 2014 edition of The Recusant anywhere on the internet (including EM's website).

    This implies to me there is no such edition.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-



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    « Reply #11 on: April 09, 2014, 10:50:02 AM »
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    Sorry, I mistakenly left that period and end-double-quotation mark at the end of the previous post.   They should be removed.  It should look like this:


    What
    Bishop Fellay

    would really
    like you to think
    he
    said to
    Cardinal Cazinares
    about the
    New Mass






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    I dont see a reference to a March/April 2014 edition of The Recusant anywhere on the internet (including EM's website).

    This implies to me there is no such edition.


    So you're saying that sea leopard must be lying?   Or did you not read his post, above?

    Wait, you MUST have read it otherwise you wouldn't have known that it's a March/April issue.   That is, you wouldn't be calling it a March/April issue without some kind of confirmation of it being such.  You would have to GUESS that it's a March/April issue, whereas according to the OP, you're much more at ease with presuming that there are going to be NO MORE issues.  

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    « Reply #12 on: April 09, 2014, 11:00:03 AM »
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    Rats.  Another mistake.  It should look like this:


    What
    Bishop Fellay

    would really
    like you to
    think he
    said to
    Cardinal Canizares
    about the
    New Mass

     

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    « Reply #13 on: April 09, 2014, 11:11:46 AM »
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    FYI:  sea leopard's post:


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    We put together a couple hundred this past weekend

    Issue 15   March/April  44 pages  (22 before folding!)

    Check your postman

    bye and GB




    I made it a larger font so maybe it's easier to read, for you.  

    All of The Recusant issues have been double the pages after folding.

    I know this for a fact because I have also folded them, and unfolded them.

    I have shared them with friends and I have made about 30 people aware of them.

    And I remain perplexed as to how I could be the only one telling them these things.

    But you won't find any mention of my activities anywhere on the Internet, either,
    that is, until this present post right here, where I mention them.

    Of course, you are at liberty to presume I'm lying too, since there is nowhere to verify what I have said here to you, SeanJohnson.

    Alternatively, you could simply read it, and take it at face value, if that's not too much to ask of you.



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    I dont [sic] see a reference to a March/April 2014 edition of The Recusant anywhere on the internet (including EM's website).

    This implies to me there is no such edition.


    This post by sea leopard, BTW, is "on the Internet."

    Sorry, I don't know what else to say.  


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    Here's a little piece of suet to chew on while you're waiting for your 44 pages from TheRecusant.  

    This could be in your Collection of Resistance Writings, but it's only a Google translation.

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    Jan 19, 2014 at 3:31am ServusSpiritusSancti, donkath and 5 more like this.
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    Posted this Morning on LaSapiniere:
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    This address to the faithful has been signed by 45 priests and read this Sunday, January 19, 2014 in their respective chapel.

    Number of colleagues have been reluctant to join in, or under the effect of pressure, or arrested by the intention of the Abbe de Cacqueray to itself decisive action to Menzingen. But the Abbe de Cacqueray abandoned his courageous project to settle for yet another text that shines once more by ambiguity.

    On January 16, Bishop Fellay explained in an internal three-page document that the holes in the boat he made were well within the rules of art ... And a fortnight before, Father Pfluger said the brothers recollection that the Society should be "purified" ...

    Already, following the declaration of the three bishops of June 27, 2013 and despite its ambiguities, the Abbe de Cacqueray had given an ultimatum he issued to Bishop Fellay. As Bishop Tissier, he regrets today and in private, have signed off on this dangerous statement. But the damage is done ... The time is approaching when many colleagues, tired of those typical liberal subtleties leave their hesitant silence to regain freedom from apostolic word, for the greater good of souls and the glory of God.

    The address to the faithful is followed by the list of signatories and an explanation of Father Bruno.


    ADDRESS TO THE FAITHFUL

    Faithful to the legacy of Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, in particular his memorable "Declaration" of 21 November 1974, we adhere with all our heart, all our soul, to Catholic Rome, Guardian of the Catholic faith and traditions necessary to maintain this faith to eternal Rome, mistress of wisdom and truth.

    In the example of this great prelate, fearless defender of the Church and the Apostolic See, we refuse by cons and have always refused to follow the neo-Modernist and neo-Protestant Rome which was clearly manifested in the Second Vatican Council and, after the Council, in all the reforms and policies that are derived.

    Since 2000 and especially since 2012 the authorities of the Priestly Fraternity of St. Pius X are in the opposite direction, approaching modernist Rome.

    The doctrinal statement of 15 April 2012, followed by the expulsion of a bishop and many priests and confirmed by the sentence of the book 'Our relationship with Archbishop Lefebvre Rome', all this shows pertinacity in this way that leads to death .

    No authority, even higher in the hierarchy, can force us to abandon or diminish our Catholic faith clearly expressed and professed by the Magisterium of the Church for twenty centuries.

    Under the protection of Our Lady guardian of the faith, we intend to continue the survival operation begun by Archbishop Lefebvre.

    Accordingly, in the tragic circumstances in which we find ourselves, we are our priesthood available to all those who want to remain faithful to the fight of faith. That is why, right now, we are committed to respond to the requests we will do to support your families in their educational tasks, provide priestly formation for young people that want it, and ensure the Mass, the sacraments and doctrinal formation wherever it is necessary.

    As for you, we urge you to be zealous apostles to the reign of Christ the King and Mary Queen.

    Long live Christ the King!

    Notre Dame guardian of the faith, protect us!

    Saint Pius X, pray for us!

    On 7 January two thousand and fourteen.

    We are available to our fellow priests: some were not able or not desired, initially at least, to join in our approach. They do not hesitate to contact one of us (discretion assured).

    Contact: adresse.fidele @ gmail.com

    We are even available to the religious of Tradition which include the extreme gravity of the current situation.

    List of signatories

    1. Abbe de Merode (prior, France)

    2. Father Koller (prior, France)

    3. Father Vignalou (France)

    4. Father Hubert de Sainte-Marie Lamb (France)

    5. Father Nicolas Pinaud (France)

    6. Father Matthew Salenave (France)

    7. Father Olivier Rioult (France)

    8. Father Pierre-Marie OP and 10 other fathers Avrillé (France)

    19. OSB Father Bruno (France)

    20. April father, founder of the work of Our Lady of Salérans (France)

    21. Father Raffali and community Stellamarins (France)

    22. Abbe Picot (Kenya)

    23. Father Jean-Michel Faure (South America, Member of Chapter 2012)

    24. Father Chazal (Asia)

    25. Father Florian Abrahamowicz (Italy)

    26. Father Brühwiller (Switzerland)

    27. Abbot Martin Fuchs (Austria)

    28. Father Girouard (Canada)

    29. Father David Hewko (USA)

    30. Abbe Pierre-Célestin Ondo Ndong (Gabon)

    31. Father Ernesto Cardozo (Brazil)

    32. Father Arturo Vargas (Mexico)

    33. Father Fernando Altamira (Colombia)

    34. Abbot Hugo Ruiz (Mexico)

    35. Father Juan Carlos Ortiz (Australia)

    36. Father Frank Sauer (Germany)

    37. Father Eduardo Suelo (Asia)

    38. Father Richard Voigt (USA)

    39. Father Arnold Trauner (Austria)

    40. Father Trincado (Mexico)

    41. Father Valan Rajkunan (Asia)

    42. Father Raphael Arizaga OSB (Mexico)

    43. Father Thomas Aquinas Ferreira da Costa OSB (Brazil)

    44. Father Jahir Brito, FMBV (Brazil)

    45. Father Daniel Joaquim Maria Sant'ana, FMBV (Brazil)

    Why I signed our "address to the faithful" by Father Bruno

    Some accuse us of being restless, excessive, to be driven by impatience or a bitter zeal. I can truly say that I wrote the following "no bitterness, no resentment" (Lefebvre, Declaration of 21 November 1974) vis-à-vis anyone lines.

    Bédoin entered in 1980, ordained priest by Archbishop Lefebvre in 1986, I left Barroux in 2002. I then held various departments in the district of France of the Brotherhood. To date (19 January 2014), I am stationed at Priory Gavrus near Caen.

    In recent years, I have observed with growing concern the signs that show a change of mindset in the Tradition. I am open to repeatedly District Superior of France, the Abbe de Cacqueray. I also wrote, in April 2012, Bishop Fellay himself (letter remained unanswered).

    Many colleagues and faithful certainly already know my position. But for months appeared to me more clearly the need to express publicly, officially, my categorical refusal shift the General House seeks to impose.

    I can no longer in good conscience rob me of that duty.

    The priest must love the truth more than anything.

    The priest must bear witness to the truth at any cost.

    The priest must denounce the same mistake when it comes to the top, regardless of the consequences it may suffer.

    He must firstly because he is the representative and the Minister of Our Lord, who proclaimed during his Passion: "If I was born, so I came into this world, to testify to the truth . "

    He also must because it is the service of souls: our dear faithful have a right to the truth, and they expect their pastors a clear position, therefore public.

    This is the meaning of our "address to the faithful," the drafting of which I had the grace to participate. It is not a declaration of failure, but rather the public witness of our unwavering commitment to the principles that have guided the Archbishop in the fight of faith.

    Our text is deliberately short, and some of the faithful are hardly aware of the events of the past two years in Tradition, some guidance can help to grasp the scope of the "address".

    I - The first two paragraphs, and the fifth ("No authority ..."), are borrowed, except for one detail, the Declaration of Loyalty (published several times, including August 15, 2013), taking and adapting the Declaration Archbishop Lefebvre on 21 November 1974, which is the charter of the Catholic resistance to the conciliar religion.

    II - The fourth paragraph mentions three elements: a doctrinal statement, excluding members of the Fraternity, the conviction of a book.

    1) "Doctrinal Statement of 15 April 2012" the text presented in Rome by Bishop Fellay is outrageous and unacceptable. To take just one example, he recognized the legitimacy of the promulgation of the new church. Moreover, when a year later the document was published in Cor unum, Bishop Fellay claimed to have done "as Archbishop Lefebvre in 1988." There there objectively a grave offense to the memory of Bishop: it never has recognized the legitimacy of the promulgation of the "Mass bastard" as he called it in a memorable sermon of 1976.

    2) "The exclusion of a bishop and many priests" should be adding other sanctions, particularly the conviction of Abbe Pinaud. The sentence is null and void does not detract from its truly odious character.

    This second point is closely related to the first: it is very significant that the text strikes a Father Pinaud suspense acknowledge our colleague have said that the Declaration of 15 April was "a danger to the faith," which is perfectly correct.

    3) "The condemnation of Archbishop Lefebvre book, Our relations with Rome" : It is based on a study of 16 pages, unsigned, but the Abbe Thouvenot states that it "substantially corroborates the judgment" Bishop Fellay. This "review" includes passages outrageous. Note that this is probably the most serious: The author of this note which substantially corroborates the judgment of Bishop Fellay criticizes Abbe Woodpecker "to focus on specific aspects" (p. 7). And the example he gives is that soon ... Christ the King. Particular aspect? It is instead the idea of ​​Archbishop Lefebvre! "We must always be concerned about [the reign of Our Lord]" (Sermon for the Feast of Christ the King, 1978). "We have to be, I would say, almost obsessed with this need, by the need to meditate on this mystery of our Lord and spread his reign. We have no other purpose other reason to be priests to reign our Lord Jesus Christ "(conference Écône, June 3, 1980) ... This is very general thoughts, some would say. But when it comes specifically relations with Rome, it is very precisely that "Father Woodpecker argues that 'it is this loyalty [Christ the King] that plays all the drama between Rome and Écône' "(p. 7). Discerned from the words of my lord: "The real fundamental opposition is the reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ Oportet illum regnare, he must reign, St. Paul tells us, Our Lord. come to rule. They say no, we say yes, with all the popes "(conference Sierre, November 27, 1988). When in 1976 the nuncio claims that the social reign of Our Lord is no longer possible, and that the Pope would write more encyclical Quas primas today (Pius XI), the prelate was indignant: "We are no longer the same religion! [...] If there is something we have been looking for all our lives, it is the social reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ "(conference Écône, August 20, 1976). And in 1987, at a conference for priests, he brings his reply to Cardinal Ratzinger: "Our apostolate is the reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ. That's what we are. And you do the opposite "(Écône, 4 September 1987).

    III - In the sixth paragraph, we place our journey of faith under the protection of "Our Lady Guardian of the Faith." This is the title of the Virgin Bourguillon sanctuary near Freiburg, where Bishop led his first seminarians to devote his nascent work at Our Lady Guardian of the Faith.

    Over forty years later, when a terrible crisis shakes the Tradition, we must do everything to save the legacy of Archbishop Lefebvre: Brotherhood, as an institution, may disappear or at least lose its identity (ie which is, alas happening), but the legacy of Monsignor: his mind, his principles, his fight in the service of Christ the King and Holy Church, this heritage can not, must not disappear . With the grace of God and the help of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, we will maintain.

    "The first evidence of loyalty and love that the priest has to give God and men, wrote Father Calmel is to keep intact the infinitely precious deposit that was entrusted to him when the bishop laid his hands. "





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    Post by Archangel on Jan 19, 2014 at 3:33am
    Note that this declaration is far from including all resistance priests.

    Notable names missing would include Bishop Williamson, Fr. Pfeiffer, the religious associated with Dom Tomas Aquinas, etc.
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    Ancien Regime or TheRecusant:

    We need your help.

    This document is too important to linger as a Google translation.

    Can you please offer a better translation from the LaSapiniere article?
    Last Edit: Jan 19, 2014 at 3:53am by Archangel
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    Post by Archangel on Jan 19, 2014 at 4:31am
    Also, there are currently 5 resistance priests working in Germany, but the list of signatories includes only 1.

    Would be a nice project to compile a list of current worldwide resistance apostolates, including name, address, and contact information.
    Last Edit: Jan 19, 2014 at 4:31am by Archangel
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    Thanks for the invite. Us to be together in prayer for the Church's Tradition. Forgive my English...
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    Jan 19, 2014 at 3:33am Archangel said:
    Note that this declaration is far from including all resistance priests.

    Notable names missing would include Bishop Williamson, Fr. Pfeiffer, the religious associated with Dom Tomas Aquinas, etc.
    I do not know about the others, but Father Cardozo signed. As well as other priests associated with Don Tomás. And himself Don Tomas.
    Read carefully!
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    Post by immaculata on Jan 19, 2014 at 7:00am
    I have found it on the website: www.custos-sancto.blogspot.com
    The signing of Father Pfeiffer is present,

    it will be added.
    God bless You! God bless our Resistance Priests!
    Liste der Unterzeichner



    Die Unterzeichnung von Pater Pfeiffer ist vorhanden,

    Wird der Liste ergänzt.



    1. Abbé de Mérode (prieur, France)

    2. Abbé Koller (prieur, France)

    3. Abbé Vignalou (France)

    4. Abbé Hubert de Sainte-Marie d’Agneau (France)

    5. Abbé Nicolas Pinaud (France)

    6. Abbé Matthieu Salenave (France)

    7. Abbé Olivier Rioult (France)

    8. Père Pierre-Marie OP et les 10 autres pères d’Avrillé (France)

    19. Père Bruno OSB (France)

    20. Père Avril, fondateur de l’œuvre de Notre-Dame de Salérans (France)

    21. Père Raffali et sa communauté des Stellamaris (France)

    22. Abbé Picot (Kenya)

    23. Abbé Jean-Michel Faure (Amérique du sud, Membre du chapitre de 2012)

    24. Abbé Chazal (Asie)

    25. Abbé Florian Abrahamowicz (Italie)

    26. Abbé Brühwiller (Suisse)

    27. Abbé Fuchs Martin (Autriche)

    28. Abbé Girouard (Canada)

    29. Abbé David Hewko (USA)

    30. Abbé Pierre-Célestin Ndong Ondo (Gabon)

    31. Abbé Ernesto Cardozo (Brésil)

    32. Abbé Arturo Vargas (Mexique)

    33. Abbé Fernando Altamira (Colombie)

    34. Abbé Hugo Ruiz (Mexique)

    35. Abbé Juan-Carlos Ortiz (Australie)

    36. Abbé Frank Sauer (Allemagne)

    37. Abbé Eduardo Suelo (Asie)

    38. Abbé Richard Voigt (USA)

    39. Abbé Arnold Trauner (Autriche)

    40. Abbé Trincado (Mexique)

    41. Abbé Valan Rajkunan (Asie)

    42. Père Raphaël Arizaga OSB (Mexique)

    43. Père Thomas d’Aquin Ferreira da Costa OSB (Brésil)

    44. Père Jahir Brito, FMBV (Brésil)

    45. Père Joaquim Daniel Maria de Sant’ana, FMBV (Brésil)



    Übernommen von: www.aveclimmaculee.blogspot.fr

    Source : la sapiniere.info



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    Jan 19, 2014 at 3:52am Archangel said:
    Ancien Regime or TheRecusant:

    We need your help.

    This document is too important to linger as a Google translation.

    Can you please offer a better translation from the LaSapiniere article?
    We will see what can be done. Although, for a google translation, it doesn't look too bad...
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    "45 Priests Sign Declaration of Resistance..."

    If the math comes out between Fr. Pfeiffer stating that there already was about 30-40 sspx priests standing up, and now another 22, that's 52-62 sspx priests; which equals approx. 12% of the 500 who are resisting Menzingen's new-doctrine.

    Every time Bishop Fellay does something foolish, again and again, that number climbs each month; but his prudish and square-toed behavior only wishes to place blame on the "ill-mentality" of those who oppose him.

    I wonder if his afternoon book reading is really consumed with fiction rather than on the meat of Catholic Doctrine.

    You are what you surround yourself with...and over the last two-years, we are only receiving from him fairy-tale stories.
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    "I wonder if his afternoon book reading is really consumed with fiction rather than on the meat of Catholic Doctrine."

    I don't know.  Is this considered fiction?


    "Those who preserve their fervour and adhere to virtue with love and zeal for the truth,
    will suffer injuries and, persecutions as rebels and schismatics; for their persecutors, urged
    on by the evil spirits, will say they are rendering a great service to God by destroying such
    pestilent men from the face of the earth." - St. Francis of Assisi
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    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:18pm ServusSpiritusSancti, donkath and 5 more like this.
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    AWESOME! As mentioned above, this list leaves out some names, and it also doesn't count the many priests who have voiced support for the Resistance in private, but who as of yet have not made any moves. Pray that this gives them the courage to act on their convictions. And another thing that I believe is very important: is for the Resistance faithful to remember their pledges and promises to these brave priests and to support them financially and with prayer. Even seemingly token amounts can make a big difference when they are combined. God bless these good and holy priests!
    (And Bishop Williamson, of course.)
    Last Edit: Jan 19, 2014 at 10:28pm by needleduck: vive la resistance!
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    Jan 19, 2014 at 10:18pm needleduck said:
    AWESOME! As mentioned above, this list leaves out some names, and it also doesn't count the many priests who have voiced support for the Resistance in private, but who as of yet have not made any moves. Pray that this gives them the courage to act on their convictions. And another thing that I believe is very important: is for the Resistance faithful to remember their pledges and promises to these brave priests and to support them financially and with prayer. Even seemingly token amounts can make a big difference when they are combined. God bless these good and holy priests!
    (And Bishop Williamson, of course.)
    Thanks for the best reminders, needle duck!

    Thank for the best reminders, needleduck!

    Last Edit: Jan 21, 2014 at 6:12pm by Adrienne: pesky spell-check jumps my fret button...
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