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The Recusant - Issue 12 - December 2013 (Supplementary)
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 04:17:13 PM »
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    « Reply #2 on: December 04, 2013, 04:18:17 PM »
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  • Many thank for sharing.

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    « Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 08:51:34 PM »
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    Have you noticed how XSPXHEBF is now timing his media blitzes to coincide with the new release of TheRecusant?  

    He waits until a new edition MUST be in the works, so as to dump a new pile of circuмlocutions or worse on the Internet, just to make Ed. almost wish that he'd waited another few days to cut loose.  

    It's getting to be predictable.


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    The Recusant - Issue 12 - December 2013 (Supplementary)
    « Reply #4 on: December 04, 2013, 09:03:24 PM »
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    Oh-oh............ my copy of your download has the following pages cut off on the right margin by two or three characters, rendering this issue very difficult to read, and at points, impossible to understand for certain:

    2, 4, 6, 8, 14, 16, 30, 32.

    All of the even pages and some of the odd pages are missing the right border line(s).  

    Someone wasn't being careful in the scanning department!!


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    The Recusant - Issue 12 - December 2013 (Supplementary)
    « Reply #5 on: December 05, 2013, 06:54:02 AM »
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    Oh-oh............ my copy of your download has the following pages cut off on the right margin by two or three characters, rendering this issue very difficult to read, and at points, impossible to understand for certain:

    2, 4, 6, 8, 14, 16, 30, 32.

    All of the even pages and some of the odd pages are missing the right border line(s).  

    Someone wasn't being careful in the scanning department!!


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    I just saved the pdf file to my computer and everything is just fine.  The problem is on your side.

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    The Recusant - Issue 12 - December 2013 (Supplementary)
    « Reply #6 on: December 05, 2013, 11:53:17 AM »
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    Hmm..

    I tried downloading the Adobe Reader X(10.1.8) update, installed the file, restarted my system, and downloaded your PDF again, but still I'm getting the right edge of those even # pages cut off.  

    ??  :confused1: ??




    Okay ---------- I think the problem is in Firefox.  

    I clicked on the download arrow (top right corner) and clicked on "Show all downloads" then clicked on this Recusant file, with the Adobe logo, so that started the Adobe Reader program, and now it displays correctly.



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    The Recusant - Issue 12 - December 2013 (Supplementary)
    « Reply #7 on: December 05, 2013, 12:33:38 PM »
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  • I don't say thanks every time I download a Recusant issue, but I'm nevertheless happy to have them in digital format. Thank you very much for posting them. Keep up the good work!
    Adversus hostem Fidei aeterna auctoritas esto! To the enemies of the Faith no quarter!

    If they refuse to be converted by the Heart of the Immaculate, then in the end they shall be


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    The Recusant - Issue 12 - December 2013 (Supplementary)
    « Reply #8 on: December 05, 2013, 01:45:56 PM »
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    This is a great Supplement!  

    TrueTrad.com has gone to great lengths for our edification and assistance, for those that is, who have eyes to see and ears to hear.  Unfortunately, there will be those who remain impudently and culpably ignorant by way of just not wanting to know.  

    I find it ironic that the same "dialogue with the deaf" that ABL lamented is now going on between the XSPX and the Resistance to their errors.  It is most ironic.  But it goes to show how dangerous Modernism is, and this is why Pope St. Pius X warned that it would be the destroyer of all religion.  We should take heed!




    P 1- 3 ~ Demonstration of the overall principle that PRUDENCE is misunderstood
    in Fr. Themann's presentation, and while this fact invalidates the entire work,
    nonetheless, the rest of it will be assessed anyway for the benefit of the readers
    (like me!).

    "...your conference was completely inadequate as an explanation of the SSPX’s
    recent conduct. However, we regret that this fact does not end the errors you
    made during the conference nor the harm you are doing."



    P 8 ~ +Fellay is still open to a 'deal' with unconverted Rome:

    "Here is the typical way Bishop Fellay phrases the matter now to escape personal
    responsibility: “we thank God, we have been preserved from any kind of
    Agreement from last year [sic]”.10 Bishop Fellay talks as if the SSPX was spared
    from the destruction of a hurricane, rather than spared from the destruction which
    would have flowed from his own attempts to reach an agreement submitting the
    SSPX to unconverted Rome.

    Although Bishop Fellay indicates here that an agreement last year would have
    turned out badly because Pope Francis became pope, this in no way forecloses a
    future agreement with unconverted Rome when the terms are “favorable”. This
    consideration leads us to the third reason, immediately below:"

    ~ ABL recognized his mistake and did something about it -- +F pretends that
    ABL did not recognize it, nor that he did anything different to correct it.  

    ~ ABL desired greatly to AVOID being corrupted by modernist Rome but +F is
    showing no fear of being subject to heretics.  It's as though he thinks it's a
    good idea to place the entire Society under the episcopal thumb of Newrome.


    P 9 ~ In as late as 2003, +F was critical of Campos, Brazil, for committing the
    ѕυιcιdє of a practical agreement with unconverted Rome under the unclean spirit
    of Vatican II (he calls it "the immense fuzziness, otherwise known as the spirit
    of Vatican II").


    P 10 ~ +F attempts to falsify the words of ABL where he said he retracted his
    May 5th protocol, by saying that he did not "reject" it.  We are reminded when
    the Popes of old used to say they "say, declare, define, pronounce," and now we
    know why.  It's because there were XSPXHEBF-types even in those days, who
    would dare to make a difference based on one word or one nuance.

    This is remeniscent of Probate court!


    P 12 ~ ABL shows how Newrome was demanding of him to abandon his 'errors' and
    to come back to the 'truth' -- the so-called truth of Vatican II!  

    "Consequently, it is clear that the only truth that exists today
    for the Vatican is the conciliar truth, the spirit of the Council, the spirit
    of Assisi. That is the truth of today. But we will have nothing to do
    with this for anything in the world!"

    Operation Survival vs. Operation ѕυιcιdє


    P 13 ~ This dialogue with the deaf continues.  I have to say, that I appreciate
    the efforts of TrueTrad.com and TheRecusant for reprinting this great work as
    a supplement to the regular issue...  





    I find it ironic that the "dialogue with the deaf" that ABL lamented is now going on between the Resistance and the denizens of Menzingen.  For some mysterious reason, God saw fit to hide this horror from the eyes of the Founder, who would have no doubt taken sure steps to avoid this scandal from the start.








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