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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Neil Obstat on June 15, 2013, 04:31:21 PM
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One fine day perhaps we'll grow up and realize how important
the contribution of The Recusant is for the Resistance.
I do hope it won't be too late by then..............
Source (http://www.therecusant.com/apps/blog/)The Recusant
SSPX in Poland Caught Promoting Ecclesia Dei
Posted by The Editor on June 15, 2013 at 11:10 AM Comments (0)
In a piece on the SSPX Polish District website, upcoming SSPX ordinations at Winona, Econe and Zaitskofen are mentioned in the same breath as ordinations of the FSSP the Institute of Christ the King and the "not-the-Redemptorists".
Incredible though it may sound that any of the clever, conniving politicians in the SSPX hierarchy would let their true feelings show in this way, yet on this one occasion the mask was allowed to slip.
On the whole they are careful not to let it happen too often lest too many faithful wake up to what is happening to the SSPX.
The last time the SSPX leadreship felt able to reveal their thoughts in all their alarming candour was in the run up to what everyone thought would be an announcement of a canonical deal with Rome, about this time last year.
Bishop Fellay and Fr. Pfluger thought they were home and dry, and began to count their proverbial chickens before they had hatched.
If you are ever unsure of what Bishop Fellay's thinking is, we recommend that you look again at the CNS interview (here) (http://www.therecusant.com/bishop-fellay-cns) or re-read his letter to the three SSPX bishops (here) (http://www.therecusant.com/menz-letter-to-3-bishops), or his June 2012 DICI interview (here) (http://www.dici.org/en/news/interview-with-bishop-bernard-fellay-on-relations-with-rome/).
But since Rome 'disappointed Bishop Fellay, the mask has been firmly back on - the liberalising and softening-up of the SSPX proceeds apace, but all the while the faithful must be reassured that nothing ha s changed!
This little article from Poland is the latest small piece of evidence which belies such official reassurances.
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Our copy of the English translation of the piece has been available in the "Reference Materials" section for a short time, (here) (http://www.therecusant.com/sspx-ed-ordinations).
However, since then the webmaster of the SSPX Poland site has altered his original article (here) (http://news.fsspx.pl/2013/06/europa-i-usa-zapowiedzi-swiecen-kaplanskich-w-bractwie-sw-piusa-x/), removing from it the approving references to the Ecclesia Dei groups and their respective ordinations.
You may wish to ask yourself why that might be.
N.B. Would you mind, please, asking yourself why that might be?
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Internet rumour?
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I appreciate The Recusant as much as anybody -- a wonderful Resistance site -- but, in all fairness, Orinoco brought this "scoop" to the English-speaking world.
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I appreciate The Recusant as much as anybody -- a wonderful Resistance site -- but, in all fairness, Orinoco brought this "scoop" to the English-speaking world.
Well, there we go again.
I read the title, "All one happy family (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=25209&min=0&num=5)," and immediately ignored the thread
because the title did precisely nothing for me. Go figure.
There's a lot in a title.
If you want someone to read the thread, use a title that makes sense.
Is that too much to ask?
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I appreciate The Recusant as much as anybody -- a wonderful Resistance site -- but, in all fairness, Orinoco brought this "scoop" to the English-speaking world.
Well, there we go again.
I read the title, "All one happy family (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=25209&min=0&num=5)," and immediately ignored the thread
because the title did precisely nothing for me. Go figure.
There's a lot in a title.
If you want someone to read the thread, use a title that makes sense.
Is that too much to ask?
You are taking it very seriously.
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I appreciate The Recusant as much as anybody -- a wonderful Resistance site -- but, in all fairness, Orinoco brought this "scoop" to the English-speaking world.
True, Orinoco deserves the credit more than us.
Though in fairness, he himself got it from a French site, who in turn got it from a polish site. The real first person to notice was "Pelagius in Asturiensis"...
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One fine day perhaps we'll grow up and realize how important
the contribution of The Recusant is for the Resistance.
I do hope it won't be too late by then..............
Source (http://www.therecusant.com/apps/blog/)The Recusant
SSPX in Poland Caught Promoting Ecclesia Dei
Posted by The Editor on June 15, 2013 at 11:10 AM Comments (0)
In a piece on the SSPX Polish District website, upcoming SSPX ordinations at Winona, Econe and Zaitskofen are mentioned in the same breath as ordinations of the FSSP the Institute of Christ the King and the "not-the-Redemptorists".
Incredible though it may sound that any of the clever, conniving politicians in the SSPX hierarchy would let their true feelings show in this way, yet on this one occasion the mask was allowed to slip.
On the whole they are careful not to let it happen too often lest too many faithful wake up to what is happening to the SSPX.
The last time the SSPX leadreship felt able to reveal their thoughts in all their alarming candour was in the run up to what everyone thought would be an announcement of a canonical deal with Rome, about this time last year.
Bishop Fellay and Fr. Pfluger thought they were home and dry, and began to count their proverbial chickens before they had hatched.
If you are ever unsure of what Bishop Fellay's thinking is, we recommend that you look again at the CNS interview (here) (http://www.therecusant.com/bishop-fellay-cns) or re-read his letter to the three SSPX bishops (here) (http://www.therecusant.com/menz-letter-to-3-bishops), or his June 2012 DICI interview (here) (http://www.dici.org/en/news/interview-with-bishop-bernard-fellay-on-relations-with-rome/).
But since Rome 'disappointed Bishop Fellay, the mask has been firmly back on - the liberalising and softening-up of the SSPX proceeds apace, but all the while the faithful must be reassured that nothing ha s changed!
This little article from Poland is the latest small piece of evidence which belies such official reassurances.
.
Our copy of the English translation of the piece has been available in the "Reference Materials" section for a short time, (here) (http://www.therecusant.com/sspx-ed-ordinations).
However, since then the webmaster of the SSPX Poland site has altered his original article (here) (http://news.fsspx.pl/2013/06/europa-i-usa-zapowiedzi-swiecen-kaplanskich-w-bractwie-sw-piusa-x/), removing from it the approving references to the Ecclesia Dei groups and their respective ordinations.
You may wish to ask yourself why that might be.
N.B. Would you mind, please, asking yourself why that might be?
In this same vein, someone called me the other day and said that an SSPX priest saying Mass last week in St. Mary's, Kansas, stated from the altar, during the sermon, that the SSPX priests get their faculties from "the holy father" brogoglio, through the "Catholic" church, through the "local ordinary", the Local "Bishop", and that's why we pray for them all!
This is the exact same nonsense that Father LeRoux stated from the Auriesville Altar last year ( June, 2012)-- that our ( SSPX ) priests GET THEIR MISSION from the local ordinary!
This, of course, is why Bp. Fellay told the Cardinal last year that "had Archbishop Lefebvre seen the way you celebrate the (new) mass, he never would have ordained men to the priesthood, and he never would have consecrated bishops"
And this is exactly why Archbishop Mueller says "they (the SSPX Bishops) have no mission in the Church-- they should turn themselves into a monastery for punishment"
Did anyone else hear, and record the sermon in St Mary's Kansas in which it was stated that our priests get their faculties from the local ordinary? Thanks!
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In this same vein, someone called me the other day and said that an SSPX priest saying Mass last week in St. Mary's, Kansas, stated from the altar, during the sermon, that the SSPX priests get their faculties from "the holy father" brogoglio, through the "Catholic" church, through the "local ordinary", the Local "Bishop", and that's why we pray for them all!
There were gasps and shouts of shame when this was mentioned at the Bishop Williamson conference in Ireland.
Given that it is or was on their own websites, the joke is will Bishop Fellay and his gang state it is "internet rumour".
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