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Offline Matthew

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The Recusant caught in another filthy lie
« on: December 05, 2016, 11:16:30 AM »
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  • Remember this post?
    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Fr-Pfeiffer-claiming-universal-jurisdiction-again-sigh

    This time it's the Recusant getting in on the lying action.

    When seeking the truth, and the true position, it is an enormous grace from God to catch this or that group in a clear lie.
    It helps you to eliminate possibilities, like the game of Clue.

    Many people are confused by the different groups and the conflicts between them.

    But thanks be to God, we can dismiss the Recusant/Cor Mariae/Maccabees/Fr. Pfeiffer/Pablo group as being a bunch of liars, manipulators, and cultists. Allow me to PROVE it.

    Here is just ONE clear lie published in the most recent issue of "The Recusant" (which started out well enough, but for the past 2 years has become the propaganda/fundraising/character assassination arm of Fr. Pfeiffer's isolated cult)

    Quote from: Recusant
    This conference took place at “Stella Maris Chapel,” the
    property bought last year for a cool $650,000 cash down,
    by BRN Associates, to help the Fake Resistance establish
    itself in, and take-over, several Resistance chapels which
    had been going since 2012 and 2013.


    As the coordinator of St. Dominic's Chapel outside San Antonio, TX, I can tell you that this is an absolute lie.

    HERE ARE THE FACTS:

    In 2013, Fr. Pfeiffer (and/or his delegate, Fr. Hewko) said Mass THREE TIMES at St. Dominic's Chapel. February, August, and September. I couldn't get him to come any more often than that, and he wouldn't come back after September 2013. I was quite annoyed, and I kept asking him to come back. So, long story short, Fr. Pfeiffer abandoned most of Texas (except for Dallas, TX) including St. Dominic's Chapel.

    First of all, there were no Resistance chapels in Texas all throughout 2012. Although I, and CathInfo, were completely on-board from day one (May 2012), it took time to get Fr. Pfeiffer to come here. I spent all 2012 talking to SSPX parishioners, organizing, etc.

    There are only 4 places in Texas that have ever heard Mass from a Resistance priest:

    1. San Antonio/Seguin - St. Dominic's Chapel. First Mass was February 2013 -- see above. NOTE WELL that Fr. Pfeiffer abandoned the San Antonio mission after September 2013. Fr. Pfeiffer/Hewko didn't set foot in Texas again until AFTER Fr. Zendejas came to take care of some of the abandoned resistant Faithful in Texas.

    From September 2014 - May 2015, Fr. Voigt said Mass monthly in San Antonio (St. Dominic's) and Dallas. However, it was a semi-independent apostolate of Fr. Voigt. It was done "with Fr. Pfeiffer's blessing" but that's it.

    Two things MUST be noted here: A) I started publicly criticizing Fr. Pfeiffer in November 2014, and I even asked Fr. Voigt if I risked my monthly Masses and he said NO. B) Fr. Pfeiffer has since attacked/repudiated/slandered Fr. Voigt.

    I'm here to tell you that except for one family (who has RED-LIGHTED any priest supporting Bishop Williamson/Bishop Faure/Bishop Thomas Aquinas), we were all here for a good Resistance-supporting Mass and not because of Fr. Pfeiffer. The PROOF is in the pudding: we're all still here attending Mass with Fr. Zendejas, COMPLETELY WITHOUT Fr. Pfeiffer's blessing -- and we don't care. Only one family (F.M. and his daughter N.B. and her 5 children) stopped coming once Fr. Pfeiffer removed his approval.

    2. Houston/La Marque - Stella Maris Chapel. Wasn't purchased until July 2015. Weekly Mass started 2 months previous, in a bank conference room. Before April 2015 or so, there was absolutely nothing going on there as far as Resistance Masses. Fr. Zendejas might have said some private Masses in peoples' homes, but nothing I was aware of. NOTE WELL: Fr. Pfeiffer and his group never said a single Mass in the Houston area.

    3. Dallas - This is where the Dougherty brothers live -- one is a seminarian in Boston, KY, and the other is Martin "Manuel Chavez" Dougherty, who spent Thirty Days in Boston, used to be a seminarian, and still supports Fr. Pfeiffer. This Mass center is in a nice upscale home, actually an entire garage renovated for the purpose. But actually more than one location has been used over the years, so it's a bit confusing. There has been at least one "split" there. This mission dates back to late 2014, when Fr. Voigt would go to Dallas once a month, and afterwards Martin D. would drive him down to San Antonio (St. Dominic's Chapel) to say Mass there as well. To this day, Fr. Pfeiffer visits this Dallas chapel about once a month, and then goes on to San Antonio where he says Mass in a faithful's living room (1 or 2 families in attendance), or a hotel room, depending on the day. NOTE WELL: Fr. Zendejas has not said any Masses, much less started any Mass centers, in Dallas.

    4. El Paso - Technically in Texas, but it's more realistic to consider it halfway into New Mexico, and right on the border with Mexico. El Paso has a tiny Mass center in a person's home, with 1 family in attendance. The mission is named after a venerable (Venerable Mary of Agreda) and the mission is extremely estrogen-heavy (i.e., mostly women). This mission was started in late December 2015.

    Also note, that Fr. Zendejas had been posted to TWO places over the past couple of decades: Ridgefield, CT and Houston, TX. So his choice to set up shop in Houston was a no-brainer. It's where he was a known quantity, and where he knew the parishioners.

    SUMMARY:
    So Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer actually lost ZERO chapels/locations in Texas. He abandoned one (San Antonio) 1.5 years before Fr. Zendejas came to Texas. He continued ignoring another (Houston). He kept Dallas (to keep a large benefactor, the well-heeled Dougherty family, happy), and he started another location in El Paso.

    MYTHBUSTERS VERDICT: The Recusant quote (above) is a filthy lie.

    Question of the day: If they will so quickly and passionately lie like this, with so much apparent conviction, then what other things will they lie about? Good question!


    There are only 2 possibilities here:

    A) The author who wrote this is perfectly willing to bald-faced lie
    B) The author didn't know the truth, but he blindly repeats propaganda and lies from Fr. Pfeiffer and/or Pablo.

    Either way, it's a huge problem!

    Also note that Fr. Pfeiffer himself has uttered this lie before -- and I called him on it. I typed up much of this report (about San Antonio's Resistance chapel history) once before. You can find it here on CathInfo.


    TAKEAWAY:

    I'm not saying this because I'm on Fr. Zendejas' team, Bishop Williamson's team, etc. I'm saying this because I want people to know the indisputable TRUTH of the matter. We're literally talking about my own backyard here! I think I would know the truth about what goes on here on my own property! No one was more involved in the San Antonio mission than I was.
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    The Recusant caught in another filthy lie
    « Reply #1 on: December 05, 2016, 11:35:26 AM »
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  • Is the Recusant still supporting Father Pfeiffer? I read on Cathinfo that the Recusant became sedevacantist and started supporting one of the Sedevacantist priests. Is that not true?
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    The Recusant caught in another filthy lie
    « Reply #2 on: December 05, 2016, 01:02:29 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    Is the Recusant still supporting Father Pfeiffer? I read on Cathinfo that the Recusant became sedevacantist and started supporting one of the Sedevacantist priests. Is that not true?


    I don't know who said that, but I doubt it. The latest Recusant shows that he's unchanged (from his Pfeifferite position).
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    The Recusant caught in another filthy lie
    « Reply #3 on: December 05, 2016, 06:43:50 PM »
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  • We should always be clear on Catholic terminology.  A lie consists in speaking a falsehood with the intention of deceiving.  A person who speaks a falsehood with no intention of deceiving speaks a falsehood, but does not in doing so tell a lie even though the falsehood may have been picked up from someone who was lying when they told it.

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    The Recusant caught in another filthy lie
    « Reply #4 on: December 05, 2016, 07:19:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    Is the Recusant still supporting Father Pfeiffer? I read on Cathinfo that the Recusant became sedevacantist and started supporting one of the Sedevacantist priests. Is that not true?


    I'd expect Bishop Williamson and Fellay to become sedevacantists and start a completely new religious society, together, revolving around sedevacantism before I'd expect the Recusant to become a sedevacantist.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    The Recusant caught in another filthy lie
    « Reply #5 on: December 05, 2016, 08:15:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: klasG4e
    We should always be clear on Catholic terminology.  A lie consists in speaking a falsehood with the intention of deceiving.  A person who speaks a falsehood with no intention of deceiving speaks a falsehood, but does not in doing so tell a lie even though the falsehood may have been picked up from someone who was lying when they told it.


    As I said:

    Quote from: Matthew
    There are only 2 possibilities here:

    A) The author who wrote this is perfectly willing to bald-faced lie
    B) The author didn't know the truth, but he blindly repeats propaganda and lies from Fr. Pfeiffer and/or Pablo.

    Either way, it's a huge problem!


    Whether it's the Recusant (etc.) voluntarily lying for their master, or the master (Fr. Pfeiffer) himself doing the lying -- either case is equally grave.

    I repeat: if none of these people were guilty of lying, and all the lies originated with Fr. Pfeiffer himself -- would that really be any better? Would that make Fr. Pfeiffer's sect  any more desirable for Traditional Catholics?

    If you ask me, that would make it WORSE. It would be better, objectively speaking, if it were the foot soldiers lying on their own initiative, rather than innocently repeating vicious lies from their leader, a priest! After all, a priest should be holier than his flock.

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    The Recusant caught in another filthy lie
    « Reply #6 on: December 05, 2016, 09:56:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matto
    Is the Recusant still supporting Father Pfeiffer? I read on Cathinfo that the Recusant became sedevacantist and started supporting one of the Sedevacantist priests. Is that not true?
    Maybe this thread is what you may be referring to...

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=41113&min=0&num=3

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    The Recusant caught in another filthy lie
    « Reply #7 on: December 06, 2016, 02:21:57 PM »
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  • I am intimately familiar with BRN. This is just simple nonsense. I feel obligated to share some information concerning Fr. Pfeiffer.

    He arrived at my home without much notice a couple years ago and requested quarters and an altar at which to say Mass. I obliged because I have known him for nearly 20 years. I told him point blank that his message was not balanced and yet I also gave him money because he is a priest and I am myself a former cleric. At this particular visit, he attempted to convince me that the local pastor at the time--of the SSPX had almost joined him in his resistance stance. This was a gross exaggeration of an assumption.

    The assertion that Fr. Zendejas and +Williamson and His Excellency's non-profit in the US was created to take away anything from Fr. Pfeiffer is like saying lightning exists to clear arid forests and destroy the landscape.

    One may happen as a result of the other, but it is not the primary reason.

    Fr. Pfeiffer's penchant exaggerations are an unfortunate indicator of his mind; it is unbalanced and he is as well. We ought to pray for him to come to his senses and stop creating enemies.