I think the mis-matched pedestals must have some sort of meaning. Anyone know or care to suggest? Otherwise, I just can't believe somebody told His Excelency, "I can get you a great deal on a new altar if you aren't fussy."  It kinda looks like the fancy granite counters in some of the houses we have looked at recently.

Oh, and the mismatched pillars on the table? Someone will identify them with the so-called 'branches' of Christianity, or of 'spirituality' or 'religion' before long; mark my words.

EXCUSE ME ! BUT HAVE WE ALREADY FORGOTTEN THE GENERAL CHAPTER WHEN THEY MADE THEIR OATH OF SECRECY ? LOOKS DOUBLE-SIDED TO ME !

Why all the room behind the TABLE?  (Mahony attempted to foist the term,
"table" on Los Angeles but after a year of bad press and egg on his
face, he reluctantly relented and had all the literature re-printed to say
"altar" but even to this day, some texts have "alter" which sounds like
a neutering operation.  Pardon my French.)  

But why all the room?  Well, of course, when you have the Mariachis or the
Guitar mess and the singers with tamborines or without, with the Drum
Set, and other percussion instruments, you need some space.  There it is!!  

                                          TA-DAAAA!

Make no mistake: They Are Getting READY, Freddie!


I must admit, when I saw that photo previously, it did not occur to me
that this was their altar.  Because it doesn't look like one.  As Seraphim
pointed out, the ledge is missing.  ALL TRADITIONAL ALTARS HAVE A
LEDGE IN THE BACK, AN ELEVATED SHELF, A PLATFORM (I'm sorry, I'll have
to look around to find the name for it, but I'm sure there is even a Latin
name for that ledge, because it's in all the traditional altars.)  

It comes to me as a shocker that I missed this detail.   The rounded steps
were obviously not altar steps, so I did not think of it as an altar.  This is
amazing.  It looks so much like it is not an altar, the presence of the
candles was not a "red flag," even.  Amazing.  

Thanks, you guys for posting this.  Especially Louis.  And speaking of your
"twisted mind"  ( )  the twists in the altar columns are not
anything like what a traditional altar would have.  If Bernini were here
today he would have some very fine words of scorn for this.  Take a look
at the pillars on the baldaccino of the High Altar at St. Peter's Basilica:  
they are made of bronze, hollow, containing the relics of perhaps millions
of Roman martyrs, including the fabled veil of St. Veronica, whom some
Orthodox heretics deny ever existed.  The columns all twist in three
different ways, but they do so in harmony, so as to give the impression
of analogy for the Blessed Trinity.  This eyesore at Econe is nothing but
a pile of rubbish.  What did they get, a bunch of scrapyard leftovers
that they threw together?  I doubt it.  I'd be willing to wager that they
paid a "designer" to specify each stanchion in all respects, and then they
were carved custom, which is BTW the most expensive approach, for
there are not two alike with the patterns (the smooth ones are the same
apparently).

To me, this is the best "hard evidence" yet to support their ultimate
plan of reconciling with the modernists Romans!


And thank you, PAT317, for making that boo-boo because it's making it
easier for me to copy it here:

Quote from: Seraphim

Quote from: Ecclesia Militans

Quote from: Bernardus

Yes there is, but a small one on the official Écône seminary website http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/frcom/doc/visite/ph_2e.htm

And I wonder why the reference to Assisi ... maybe I too have a twisted mind lol  :dancing:

If this is a picture of the old altar, then it was not against the wall before either.

Agreed.

But at least it was not accessible both ways (ie., The candlesticks are sitting on a ledge at the rear of the altar, and that ledge would prohibit saying Mass versus populum).
I did not see such a ledge on the new altar.

Thanks for pointing that out. There are some more photos of the old altar that make that clear. I tried to put them here in the thread, but they don't work for some reason, so I'll just post links:
http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/gbcom/doc/gallery/ph_1d.htm
http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/gbcom/doc/gallery/ph_1c.htm
http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/gbcom/doc/gallery/ph_1a.htm

Images for you below!  

Another thing:   notice the corners of the steps.   The old ones were
square, because there is no diagonal movement of the servers, that is,
either they are going up and down the steps from front to back or, they
go up and down the steps from right to left.  No rubrics for CTLM has
movements of servers or celebrant from center top to bottom left front,
or bottom right front.  Never, never, never. (NUMQUAM  NUMQUAM  NUMQUAM)

HOWEVER,  in the Novus Ordo, as well as in satanism rituals, there are no
such limits on movements.  

"DO AS THOU WILT IS THE WHOLE OF THE LAW,"  quod res ipsa loquitur!  

It can most reasonably be expected that there are plans to have non-
Latin-Mass liturgies going on for anyone to want such rounded corners
on the steps..  The square corners are a little bit of a maintenance issue,
but the steps are to serve the Mass, and the Mass does not serve the
steps!  The squareness of the corners aid in keeping the movements of the
servers proper and dignified, whereas the roundness of the corners
contribute to disorder and chaos.

But you might find it difficult to discover that explained anywhere............


Finally, and I'll make this brief:  Where is the crucifix??  What we have
there is a portable one, which can readily be removed (and what, replaced
with a Buddha?? or U-Know-Who???), when there is PLENTY of ROOM for
a permanent crucifix affixed to the wall.  DUUUUUH.

The only reason they had a hanging one, supported by cables (see below)
is obviously because it looks ridiculous, and nobody would mind if it is
removed!  (You can barely see the diagonal cables, but that's what
would have to hold it up, so that air currents would not cause it to "sway
in the breeze.")


These 3 images are as follows:

http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/gbcom/photos/gallery/phg14.jpg


http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/gbcom/photos/gallery/phg13.jpg


http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/gbcom/photos/gallery/phg11.jpg


Yes, there was no need to "Tear it out and start over," unless you are
wholly possessed by the unclean spirit of Vatican II, or, just "possessed."

R E S      I P S A      L O Q U I T U R

That ought to be carved in front instead of:   SANCTUS  SANCTUS  SANCTUS.  

Window or not, they could have made something with the light. I found that very beautiful altar on the internet: St Isidore the Farmer in Colorado. I never been to Econe and don't know the style of the Seminary... but why a reproduction of the altar of Assisi?

Neil Obstat said:

Finally, and I'll make this brief:  Where is the crucifix??  What we have
there is a portable one, which can readily be removed (and what, replaced
with a Buddha?? or U-Know-Who???), when there is PLENTY of ROOM for
a permanent crucifix affixed to the wall.  DUUUUUH.



 :shocked:  Something is definitely wrong. How do y'all feel knowing we helped pay for that monstrosity? Just wondering if it irks accordistas  and rebels alike?

I'm not making excuses, but is that the finished product?

The altar at the St. Louis chapel is situated just like that one but it has the tabernacle in the middle and a four pillar top.  

Maybe they are getting ready the add the rest?

Not making excuses, just hoping that what I'm seeing isn't really what I'm seeing.

TRADIDI QUOD ET ACCEPI


...words that so far, do not belong on +Fellay's tomb...


Any ideas?  Let's see:  

This seminary chapel altar in India also had the TLM celebrated on it for the first few years of it's existence.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/abcdz2000/2996999912/