Author Topic: The new altar at Seminary of Econe (Read 24609 times)

Olive · « **Reply #15 on:** December 22, 2012, 02:29:10 PM »

Yes, it does look like the former altar was quite nice and appropriately placed...

Thanks for quickly posting that photo!

Ecclesia Militans · « **Reply #16 on:** December 22, 2012, 03:06:16 PM »

Quote from: Bernardus

Yes there is, but a small one on the official Écône seminary website http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/frcom/doc/visite/ph_2e.htm

And I wonder why the reference to Assisi ... maybe I too have a twisted mind lol :dancing:

If this is a picture of the old altar, then it was not against the wall before either.

parentsfortruth · « **Reply #17 on:** December 22, 2012, 04:07:07 PM »

I think the real question is why did they put a new fixture right there, when they could have put it up against the wall where it's supposed to be, or at least made a traditional high altar?

Telesphorus · « **Reply #18 on:** December 22, 2012, 04:32:08 PM »

Quote from: parentsfortruth

I think the real question is why did they put a new fixture right there, when they could have put it up against the wall where it's supposed to be, or at least made a traditional high altar?

It is a very austere sanctuary. A lot of the monasteries in this country stripped their chapels to the bone:

Before:

After:

magdalena · « **Reply #19 on:** December 22, 2012, 05:04:38 PM »

Quote from: Bernardus

And I wonder why the reference to Assisi ... maybe I too have a twisted mind lol :dancing:

I was wondering the same thing. And, yes, the altar is definitely set up to be used with the option of the priest facing the people, and the tabernacle off in a corner somewhere. "By the fruits you shall know them."

Ecclesia Militans · « **Reply #20 on:** December 22, 2012, 05:14:11 PM »

Quote from: magdalena

Quote from: Bernardus

And I wonder why the reference to Assisi ... maybe I too have a twisted mind lol :dancing:

I was wondering the same thing. And, yes, the altar is definitely set up to be used with the option of the priest facing the people, and the tabernacle off in a corner somewhere. "By the fruits you shall know them."

Quote from: Ecclesia Militans

Quote from: Bernardus
Yes there is, but a small one on the official Écône seminary website http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/frcom/doc/visite/ph_2e.htm

And I wonder why the reference to Assisi ... maybe I too have a twisted mind lol :dancing:

If this is a picture of the old altar, then it was not against the wall before either.

Louis · « **Reply #21 on:** December 22, 2012, 05:15:24 PM »

What tickles me is even "all dress up", nothing is permanent on this altar except the altar-table itself :confused1:

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #22 on:** December 22, 2012, 05:55:43 PM »

Quote from: Ecclesia Militans

Quote from: Bernardus
Yes there is, but a small one on the official Écône seminary website http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/frcom/doc/visite/ph_2e.htm

And I wonder why the reference to Assisi ... maybe I too have a twisted mind lol :dancing:

If this is a picture of the old altar, then it was not against the wall before either.

Agreed.

But at least it was not accessible both ways (ie., The candlesticks are sitting on a ledge at the rear of the altar, and that ledge would prohibit saying Mass versus populum).

I did not see such a ledge on the new altar.

Olive · « **Reply #23 on:** December 22, 2012, 06:07:10 PM »

Anything like this happening or planned for Winona? Or how about the VA seminary's altar? I wonder.

Diego · « **Reply #24 on:** December 22, 2012, 06:14:41 PM »

Res ipsa loquitur.

Olive · « **Reply #25 on:** December 22, 2012, 06:37:26 PM »

Very good, Diego.

curioustrad · « **Reply #26 on:** December 22, 2012, 06:46:57 PM »

EXCUSE ME ! BUT HAVE WE ALREADY FORGOTTEN THE GENERAL CHAPTER WHEN THEY MADE THEIR OATH OF SECRECY ? LOOKS DOUBLE-SIDED TO ME !

Bernardus · « **Reply #27 on:** December 22, 2012, 06:51:12 PM »

Yes curioustrad, this is the new alter, the old one was in wood

magdalena · « **Reply #28 on:** December 22, 2012, 07:00:35 PM »

I suppose if an earthquake levels Assisi to the ground when the conciliarists plan Assisi IV, they can always move their syncretist gathering to Econe and no one will notice the difference.

PAT317 · « **Reply #29 on:** December 22, 2012, 07:00:46 PM »

Quote from: Seraphim

Quote from: Ecclesia Militans
Quote from: Bernardus
Yes there is, but a small one on the official Écône seminary website http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/frcom/doc/visite/ph_2e.htm

If this is a picture of the old altar, then it was not against the wall before either.

Agreed.

But at least it was not accessible both ways (ie., The candlesticks are sitting on a ledge at the rear of the altar, and that ledge would prohibit saying Mass versus populum).

I did not see such a ledge on the new altar.

Thanks for pointing that out. There are some more photos of the old altar that make that clear. I tried to put them here in the thread, but they don't work for some reason, so I'll just post links:
http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/gbcom/doc/gallery/ph_1d.htm
http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/gbcom/doc/gallery/ph_1c.htm
http://www.seminaire-econe.ch/gbcom/doc/gallery/ph_1a.htm