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Poll

If. Msgr. Vigano is Excommunicated:

It will prove his authenticity, and I will support him
3 (5.3%)
It will prove he's not Catholic, and I want nothing to do with him
0 (0%)
I already support him, so it will mean nothing to me
31 (54.4%)
I will still have issues with him
23 (40.4%)

Total Members Voted: 51

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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #65 on: October 15, 2022, 10:15:21 AM »
I actually had a theory about how +Vigano converted, which he later confirmed.

When he went into hiding / seclusion after blowing the whistle on the McCarrick situation, he took advantage of the Motu to begin offering the Tridentine Mass.  Nothing teaches the faith and the true sensus Catholicus than the Tridentine Mass ... which is why Bergoglio admits that he hates it so much.  While +Vigano was alone, offering the Catholic Mass, and having time to reflect about it due to his seclusion, he came to consider the causes of the decay.  I'm sure that his thinking was partly motivated by his repugnance for everything Bergoglio stood for.  There are many in the Conciliar Church who started to wake up because of Bergoglio.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #66 on: October 15, 2022, 10:20:23 AM »
Lad presents no evidence. We can safely disregard it as his opinion. Shamefully he accuses Miser Peccator of being a liar while offering his bias as solid proof. News at 11.

1) Miser is the one making accusations against +Vigano, and the burden of proof is on her.  When you attack someone's character with allegations, the burden of proof is on you to prove it with solid evidence.  But that's never stopped you from slandering people.

2) On other threads, I asked for the evidence, which Miser refused to provide.  I then went through looking for anything +Vigano ever said about Trump, pulled the quotes, and showed how he never said anything close to what Miser has been claiming.

So it stands that Miser and you ... slander +Vigano.  Admit that you just hate him because he show down your Globohomo propaganda narrative about Ukraine.


Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #67 on: October 15, 2022, 02:49:48 PM »
I actually had a theory about how +Vigano converted, which he later confirmed.

When he went into hiding / seclusion after blowing the whistle on the McCarrick situation, he took advantage of the Motu to begin offering the Tridentine Mass.  Nothing teaches the faith and the true sensus Catholicus than the Tridentine Mass ... which is why Bergoglio admits that he hates it so much.  While +Vigano was alone, offering the Catholic Mass, and having time to reflect about it due to his seclusion, he came to consider the causes of the decay.  I'm sure that his thinking was partly motivated by his repugnance for everything Bergoglio stood for.  There are many in the Conciliar Church who started to wake up because of Bergoglio.
Can you post that? 

Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #68 on: October 15, 2022, 06:02:02 PM »
1) Miser is the one making accusations against +Vigano, and the burden of proof is on her.  When you attack someone's character with allegations, the burden of proof is on you to prove it with solid evidence.  But that's never stopped you from slandering people.

2) On other threads, I asked for the evidence, which Miser refused to provide.  I then went through looking for anything +Vigano ever said about Trump, pulled the quotes, and showed how he never said anything close to what Miser has been claiming.

So it stands that Miser and you ... slander +Vigano.  Admit that you just hate him because he show down your Globohomo propaganda narrative about Ukraine.
I hope you are stressed and just having a memory lapse, Lad. 

Here are the threads.  People can read it and see for themselves that I did provide plenty of evidence.

https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/reality-why-women-have-abortions/msg834154/#msg834154

https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/vigano-starting-to-get-angry/





What people are failing to see that is even more disturbing than Vigano's schizophrenic antagonism to the kill shots and his continued support for Trump


is his call for a PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE of equal nations:


"The defeat of the deep state by the healthy forces within the United States of America will be the premise for a peaceful coexistence of nations, without there being one nation that considers itself superior and legitimized to subjugate the others. This is why Donald Trump was ousted by electoral fraud from the Presidency of the United States"
Vigano, June 17th 2022


(After over 30,000 deaths and a million injuries and Trump still pushing the vaccine---why would Vigano think that somebody with such a callous disregard for death and suffering of his own countryman have humanity's best interest at heart??)



Notice that Vigano says Trump was ousted before he could realize this plan.  The war in Ukraine did not start until Feb 20th. 

Therefore, Vigano was NOT talking about peace between Ukraine and Russia.  He was talking about a GLOBAL PEACE PLAN.  A PLAN FOR EQUAL NATIONS!



That is the plan of the United Nations (Lucifer Trust) nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr!






The term Peaceful Coexistence has a special historical meaning...





Those words were used by Lenin and Stalin:

Lenin And Stalin’s Policy Of Peaceful Coexistence
But can the words “peaceful coexistence” really serve as a talisman for the leaders of the CPSU in their betrayal of Marxism-Leninism? No, absolutely not.

We are now confronted with two diametrically opposed policies of peaceful coexistence.
One is Lenin and Stalin’s policy of peaceful coexistence, which all Marxist-Leninists, including the Chinese Communists, stand for.
The other is the anti-Leninist policy of peaceful coexistence, the so-called general line of peaceful coexistence advocated by Khrushchov and others.



It was a theory applied by the Soviet Union:

Peaceful coexistence (Russian: Мирное сосуществование, romanized: Mirnoye sosushchestvovaniye) was a theory, developed and applied by the Soviet Union at various points during the Cold War in the context of primarily Marxist–Leninist foreign policy and adopted by Soviet-allied socialist states, according to which the Socialist Bloc could peacefully coexist with the capitalist bloc (i.e., U.S.-allied states). This was in contrast to the antagonistic contradiction principle that socialism and capitalism could never coexist in peace. The Soviet Union applied it to relations between the western world, particularly NATO countries, and nations of the Warsaw Pact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaceful_coexistence





from the United Nations:

War No More: Using Education to Advance Peaceful Coexistence

The Preamble to the United Nations Charter states: “We the peoples of the United Nations, determined to save succeeding generations from the scourge of war…” This lofty goal was quickly thwarted by new wars, some of which continue to this day. Is “War No More” an idealist’s fantasy or a dream deferred?
https://www.un.org/en/academic-impact/war-no-more-using-education-advance-peaceful-coexistence


No more armies and no more wars?  Didn't George Bush Sr say that too in his famous nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr speech?
 30 seconds
https://www.bitchute.com/video/fubvy0PbPhlr/

Bush:  No more wars under the United Nations peacekeeping mission of the UN's founder. 

Who founded the UN?  Lucifer

It was founded by Lucifer Trust/Lucifer Publishing Co



Question:  How on earth would you make sure there is world peace and no more wars?


Answer:  A worldwide surveillance state monitored with AI tech and programmable crypto (which can be cut off) and biometrics


Over and over again, at every campaign stop Trump gave the speech:  "YOU KNEW I WAS A SNAKE WHEN YOU LET ME IN!"

All countries worldwide have installed the surveillance state and are instituting the ESG scores (UN Lucifer Trust sustainable development goals score --in other words the social credit system with Blockchain accounting system).

Sept 19, 2019  a month before the Covid narrative breaks out
TRUMP passed Executive Order to modernize Flu Vax and Promote National Security and Public Health
which establishes infrastructure for medical marshall law based on fake testing.

(One more time in case you haven't seen it...the inventor of the PCR stating it's not a diagnostic tool: 1minute 42 sec  https://www.bitchute.com/video/wOSeTz57xrCF/)

Trump ushered in 5G not so that we could download our songs faster but to support the needs of the surveillance biometric tracking system.  Trump gleefully boasts:  On land, at sea, and in air!
2minutes
https://www.bitchute.com/video/XIckzKXyaKKD/

A virtual prison planet.

Remember that photo of Trump with the creepy orb:

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What Trump and friends were looking at while fondling the great orb in the Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Center_to_Combat_Extremism
etidal.org


From the New York Times:




"The real meaning of the sphere had little to do with the occult.

The occasion was the opening of a new

Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology,

based in Riyadh, and the orb was in fact a translucent globe, with the world’s waters represented in light gray and the continents in black. Its purpose appeared to be decorative.

The futuristic look of the darkened room may have helped to fire observers’ imaginations.

It was filled with computer terminals. At one end was a wall of monitors displaying feeds from news networks...

The design felt to a pool reporter who was present like a hybrid of a game-show set and a television thriller’s idea of a counterterrorism operations control room.

Among the many dignitaries at the event were Mr. Trump’s daughter Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner, and the Saudi crown prince, Mohammed bin Nayef.

...The globe did not appear to have any magical powers, but when the king and Mr. Trump touched it, background music of the kind that might accompany a reality show’s elimination sequence or introduce a cable news program soared and pulsed. The screens glowed with statistical displays and videos about fighting terrorism. An unnamed official who narrated the features of the new control center said the displays used artificial intelligence to track, in real time, news reports and online statements."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/22/world/middleeast/trump-glowing-orb-saudi.html



What Trump and friends were looking at while fondling the great orb in the Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology:


(These are real photos...this is not from a movie)

















https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Center_to_Combat_Extremism
etidal.org

Recent etidal news: 
Etidal and Telegram Remove 1,203,966 Extremist Content in 35 Days

The Saudi's were not just showing Trump THEIR center, the center was created by agreement WITH TRUMP:


Center establishment[edit]

The agreement to establish the Global Center for Combating Extremist Ideology was made in 2017 by Saudi King Malik Salman bin Abdulaziz, and US President Donald Trump, during the 2017 Riyadh Summit. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Center_to_Combat_Extremism




Trump wouldn't want to use that kind of technology against us would he?  He wants Americans to be free, right?

Trump Calls On Social Media Companies To Become Pre-Crime Agents:
https://www.techdirt.com/2019/08/06/trump-calls-social-media-companies-to-become-pre-crime-agents/


Trump: ‘Take the guns first, go through due process second’
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376097-trump-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/


Remember Ben Gurion stating that the United Nations will have a Supreme Court of mankind in Jerusalem

When that happens can you criticize that move?

Trump’s Executive Order to Stifle Israel Critics Probably Violates the Constitution
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/trump-anti-anti-semitism-order-likely-violates-constitution.html


Why is Kanye West supporting him???


And this

Donald J. Trump: Champion of Noahide Law
'During his almost four years in office, Donald Trump has been the greatest supporter of Noahide law in US history.'
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/290464

Under Noahide, you can believe in "the Christ" (fake Ascended Master) as long as you don't believe he is the Son of God because that would be idolatry.  You can't believe in the Blessed Trinity.  You'll be beheaded.



Well, Vigano, that's Trump's peace plan.  Is that also yours?














Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #69 on: October 15, 2022, 06:24:23 PM »
And don't forget the plan for "world peace" after three world wars laid out by Trump's hero:







Many historical statues were toppled during Trump's term,  but Trump requested Congress to rebuild only one of them:

Trump Asks for Toppled DC Confederate Statue To Be Put Back Up
A statue of Albert Pike, who was a Confederate general and leader of the Freemasons, was torn down and set on fire the night of Juneteenth

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/trump-requests-toppled-confederate-statue-put-back-up-in-dc/2343633