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Poll

If. Msgr. Vigano is Excommunicated:

It will prove his authenticity, and I will support him
3 (5.3%)
It will prove he's not Catholic, and I want nothing to do with him
0 (0%)
I already support him, so it will mean nothing to me
31 (54.4%)
I will still have issues with him
23 (40.4%)

Total Members Voted: 51

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Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2022, 10:00:20 PM »
Lad presents no evidence. We can safely disregard it as his opinion. Shamefully he accuses Miser Peccator of being a liar while offering his bias as solid proof. News at 11.

Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2022, 10:04:38 PM »
Lad presents no evidence. We can safely disregard it as his opinion. Shamefully he accuses Miser Peccator of being a liar while offering his bias as solid proof. News at 11.
Exactly!  He does it all too frequently.  He is a hypocrital heretic spouting his slander on ladsinfo.


Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #62 on: October 14, 2022, 07:32:10 PM »
Here's the thing:

Some see Jєωs coming out of the woodwork, therefore Msgr. Vigano is controlled by Jєωs.

Some see Opus Dei coming out of the woodwork, therefore, Msgr. Vigano is controlled by Opus Dei.

Some see Msgr. Vigano giving Trump a pass on the vax, and therefore we can't listen to anything he says against the vax.

Some see him not condemning Putin, therefore, he must be in cahoots with Russia.

And whatever your pet positions are (flat/round earth; sedevacantisme, sedeprivationisme, Bennyvacantisme, R&R, indult, or Novus Ordo, episcopal orders, etc.), whatever he isn't doing to promote them, its natural, therefore, to consider he is compromised in some way.

Let me tell you what I see (voicing opinions is what a forum is for; you needn't agree with me):

I see a shepherd who, with nothing more than a poison pen, has knocked the entire conciliar edifice off its axis, such that large sections of it, and chunks of all the aforementioned parties have -to one degree or another- gravitated towards him.

And why?

Because whatever other faults he might possess -objectively, or merely according to our chosen crisis orrientation- the sheep hear the voice of the shepherd in his writings and doctrine.

The only precedent I can think of who was able to unite -in some degree- all the parties under the banner of true doctrine was Msgr. Lefebvre (particularly before 1983).

I am not blind to some of the particular concerns this or that faction has regarding Msgr. Vigano, but from my perspective, whatever truth there may be in these complaints, he possesses the two most important qualities necessary in our time:

1) He is somehow able to get through to conciliarists, and drag them to the right, to varying degrees, and in the process

2) He is dismantling the credibility of conciliarism (just look what Bergoglio has been forced to do in the last couple years to stop the drift toward some flavor of traditionalism).

These are arguably the two qualities most essential for the restoration of tradition, and we will not have a Catholic pope until this happens (i.e., they are prerequisites).

For these reasons, I support him (without being blind to the objections some have about him).

Having him arise on the scene is good for the Church and for souls.


The "Arch Bishop in hiding" is a media creation.

Like the Trump/Q-anon cult... it boils down to what the jews call hope porno.

AB Vigano is just repeating what trads have been saying about consiliarism for 50+ years.

Why would his Church corruption media announcements ever change anything?

If AB Vigano is speaking the truth, why doesn't he ever mention Opus Dei, a masonic operation inside the Church?

And how did Vigano convert?    Even the "miraculous marrano", Roy Schoeman has a conversion cover story.



Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #63 on: October 15, 2022, 05:09:12 AM »
Aside from the disreputable website being cited, a sodomite king is still addressed as "Your Majesty," even if no longer "majestic." 

A cardinal's title is "Your Eminence," even if no longer "eminent."

Regarding the video itself, it was from May, 2012, which by that time Msgr. Vigano had already been blowing the whistle on McCarrick for 6 years, and trying to have him disciplined.  Recall it was only when he became convinced the Vatican was covering up the incident, that he went public (2018). 

So for him to have said McCarrick was "beloved by all of us" in 2012 (i.e., before the matter was public, and while he was trying to have McCarrick disciplined) was obviously a perfunctory gesture at a time when he still had hopes the Vatican would do its duty and deal with McCarrick.
Good defense. You convinced me.

Re: The Msgr. Vigano Poll
« Reply #64 on: October 15, 2022, 05:30:39 AM »

And how did Vigano convert?    Even the "miraculous marrano", Roy Schoeman has a conversion cover story.

Now that you mention it, I don't know the answer to this question either.  I think he talked [wrote] about this at one point, but I'm not sure.