Author Topic: The Lefebvrist return to being accepted by the Church in Argentina (Read 4920 times)

Centroamerica · « **on:** April 12, 2015, 04:56:27 PM »

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A recent article in the most read newspaper in Argentina, Clarin, had some interesting things to say about Lefebvrists. Keep in mind that the Clarin is the same newspaper where the SSPX district superior (now district superior of France) denied that the Jєωs were responsible for deicide (the Gospel account). Also, it is interesting that in Argentina, a great number of the SSPX members have visa issues for none other than not being able to acquire docuмentation from the conciliar authorities. What follows is a translation of the article. A unilateral recognition? - M.F

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In Argentina, members of the ultraconservative community founded by the French bishop Marcel Lefebvre -excommunicated by Pope John Paul II in 1988 along with four other bishops formally returned to the Catholic Church. This follows a decision by the Secretariat of Cult of the Nation-published in the Official Gazette at the end of this week- in which it recognizes that the Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary or the SSPX (the Lefebvrists) as a juridical person -the key- and incorporates it into the Registry of the Institute of Consecrated Life, which makes up the congregations and Catholic orders.

For this incorporation a mediation was needed by an order of ecclesiastical authority, in this case, made by the Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Cardinal Mario Poli.

The incorporation into the country by the Lefebrists into the Catholic Church occurs while the Vatican maintains difficult negotiations with that community worldwide for its return to Rome. The discussions began in 2000 as was the will of John Paul II. In 2009, Benedict XVI decided to lift the excommunication of the four bishops -Lefebvre died in 1991, which was one of the demands of the ultraconservative community.

Joseph Ratzinger's decision -not lacking in controversy- gave a big headache to the German Pope because declarations almost immediately became known from one of the bishops benefiting [from the lifting of the excommunications], residing in Argentina, Richard Williamson, who denied the h0Ɩ0cαųst. Then, the government led by Cristina Kirchner decided to deport him.

As Williamson insisted, at least partially, with his opinions, he was put in the forefront of the most radicalized group of the Lefebvrists. He was expelled from the Society of St. Pius X in 2012.

In turn, Benedict XVI suspended him "ad divinis" and in a letter to all bishops admitted being mistaken, by not being informed about the previous denial [of the h0Ɩ0cαųst] of Williamson.

The return of the Lefebvrist to the Church in Argentina, which is deducted as having been the approval of Pope Francis- is seen from those near the pontiff as an achievement because it implies that at least one sector of the followers of Lefebvre have accepted the Second Vatican Council. But it certainly will not be met well by progressive sectors. After all, it was the desire of the immediate predecessors of Francis.

In Brazil, it was already some time ago that some of the Lefebvrists returned to communion with Rome, by becoming an Apostolic Prefecture, reporting directly to the Pope.
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Centroamerica · « **Reply #1 on:** April 12, 2015, 05:50:28 PM »

THE OFFICIAL DOcuмENT

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MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND WORSHIP
SECRETARIAT OF WORSHIP

Resloution 25/2015

Bs.As., 17/03/2005

SEEN File No. 9028/2015 of the Registry of the MINISTRY OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND WORSHIP, Law No. 24,483 and its Regulatory Decree No. 491 dated September 21, 1995, and

WHEREAS:

That under Protocol No. 084/15 dated February 23, 2015, the Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Cardinal Mario Aurelio POLI requests that the "FRATERNITY OF THE APOSTLES OF JESUS AND MARY" (SOCIETY OF ST. PIUS X) is taken, until the definitive legal framework in the Universal Church is found, as an Association of the Rights of the Diocese, as regulated by canon 298 of the Code of Canon Law, in fieri to be a Society of Apostolic Life, with all the benefits that correspond to this and in compliance with all the obligations referred to it, also assuming to it the responsibilities of the diocesan bishop.

That said fraternity is accredited as a juristic person publicly within the ROMAN CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH, according to the rules of the Code of Canon Law.

Which according to its statutes, approved by the competent ecclesiastical authority, the fraternity is a priestly society of common life without vows, in imitation of the societies for Foreign Missions (conf. Chapter I, Article 1, Statutes of the Society of the Apostles Jesus and Mary).

That Article 3, subsection f) of Decree No. 491/95 authorizes registration in the registry created by Law No. 24,483, to juridical bodies recognized by ecclesiastical authority which are similar or analogous to the Institutes of Consecrated Life and societies of apostolic life.

That the applicant institution has complied with all the requirements of current legislation, accompanying its statutes, the decree of erection and memory, in accordance with the provisions of Law No. 24,483.

This corresponds to accede to this entry whenever the petitioner falls within the terms provided by Rule 3, subsection f) of Decree No. 491/95.

This measure is issued in exercise of the powers conferred by Article 17 of Decree No. 491/95.

Therefore,

THE SECRETARY
WORSHIP

RESOLVED:

ARTICLE 1 - To recognize as a legal body "THE FRATERNITY OF THE APOSTLES OF JESUS AND MARY" (Society of St. Pius X), Association of Diocesan Right, with a registered seat and special address on the street Venezuela N ° 1318, AUTONOMOUS CITY BUENOS AIRES, which is registered under the number ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY (381) Registry Institutes of Consecrated Life.

ARTICLE 2 - To grant this entity's a character of an entity for the public good for all purposes as deemed appropriate.

ARTICLE 3 - Let it be known that the referenced legal body is benefited by the treatment provided by Article 20, subsection e) of the Law on Income Tax (text ordered in 1997).

ARTICLE 4 - Communicated, published, and submitted to the Official National Registry and filed. - Emb. WILLIAM R. OLIVERI, Secretary of Worship.

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Thurifer7 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 12, 2015, 08:30:58 PM »

Does this mean the priests there now have ordinary jurisdiction?

saintalice · « **Reply #3 on:** April 12, 2015, 09:07:34 PM »

Yes.

Francisco · « **Reply #4 on:** April 12, 2015, 10:55:04 PM »

When pope Bergoglio was elected, I recall Bp Fellay saying that the N-SSPX had already had dealings with him as the Abp of Buenos Aires. Namely, they had approached him for help in acquiring some sort legal and official status to enable them to function better and obtain visas more easily etc. The then Abp Bergoglio ( now "Peter the Roman, who feeds his flock"? - St Malachy ) assured them of his help.
His successor Archbishop of Buenos Aires has obviously carried out pope Bergoglio's promise.

GottmitunsAlex · « **Reply #5 on:** April 12, 2015, 11:54:35 PM »

So now they will be called Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary. FAJM.
First FSSP, now FAJM. At least the FAJM people had the decency to wait till after his Excellency Marcel Lefebvre died to join in the apostasy with the Roman authorities.

GottmitunsAlex · « **Reply #6 on:** April 13, 2015, 12:07:12 AM »

GottmitunsAlex · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2015, 12:25:39 AM »

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2015, 02:12:27 AM »

The Legion of Christ was allowed to keep their name despite the fact the founder was a pedophile priest. There were other scandals too. That group should have been renamed.

cathman7 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:32:25 AM »

Quote from: GottmitunsAlex

So now they will be called Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary. FAJM.
First FSSP, now FAJM. At least the FAJM people had the decency to wait till after his Excellency Marcel Lefebvre died to join in the apostasy with the Roman authorities.

No, no. The name "Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary" has always been the official name. It has been so since the beginning. Please let us stick to the issues at hand and not get side-tracked by saying this is their new name.

Stubborn · « **Reply #10 on:** April 13, 2015, 03:55:39 AM »

Quote from: obscurus

Quote from: GottmitunsAlex
So now they will be called Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary. FAJM.
First FSSP, now FAJM. At least the FAJM people had the decency to wait till after his Excellency Marcel Lefebvre died to join in the apostasy with the Roman authorities.

No, no. The name "Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary" has always been the official name. It has been so since the beginning. Please let us stick to the issues at hand and not get side-tracked by saying this is their new name.

I've been an SSPXer since it began, I never heard the name "Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary".

Stubborn · « **Reply #11 on:** April 13, 2015, 04:31:50 AM »

I just googled it, yes, the "Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary" and SSPX are the same. Seems like they use FAJM for their business name.

We just had Fr. Pfluger this weekend at our chapel and he made no mention of any of this in the two sermons he gave. I won't comment on my opinion of his weak sermons, but if in fact they have made a deal and he said nothing about it, then pious eyes would not want to read what I am thinking right now.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #12 on:** April 13, 2015, 05:35:39 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Quote from: obscurus
Quote from: GottmitunsAlex
So now they will be called Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary. FAJM.
First FSSP, now FAJM. At least the FAJM people had the decency to wait till after his Excellency Marcel Lefebvre died to join in the apostasy with the Roman authorities.

No, no. The name "Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary" has always been the official name. It has been so since the beginning. Please let us stick to the issues at hand and not get side-tracked by saying this is their new name.

I've been an SSPXer since it began, I never heard the name "Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary".

All those docuмentaries that the SSPX put out mentioned it.

saintalice · « **Reply #13 on:** April 13, 2015, 10:32:26 AM »

Yes the SSPX docuмentary did mention it. Also Frs. Pfeiffer and Chazal mentioned it when the Resistance began. They (the Resistance) wanted to be called the Apostles of Jesus and Mary because that was the original name chosen by ABL.

Maria Auxiliadora · « **Reply #14 on:** April 13, 2015, 12:39:20 PM »

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This follows a decision by the Secretariat of Cult of the Nation-published in the Official Gazette at the end of this week- in which it recognizes that the Fraternity of the Apostles of Jesus and Mary or the SSPX (the Lefebvrists) as a juridical person -the key- and incorporates it into the Registry of the Institute of Consecrated Life, which makes up the congregations and Catholic orders.

As mentioned in another thread, a family from the Baltimore, MD area, whose grandson is a seminarian with the SSPX was campaigning among people who attend the indult Mass last month on the same premises. They have an SSPX priest driving from VA to offer Mass at a rented place near that indult (St Alphonsus Church). I believe the "reintegration" has long happened but only those in favor know for now. I heard about this from a good friend they tried to recruit.