Author Topic: The leadership in Saint Marys (Read 9998 times)

PatrickG · « **Reply #5 on:** May 17, 2013, 03:08:55 AM »

Quelle suprise, I'm afraid to say, although it's certainly the most flagrant Modernism I've seen in the Society. This sort of thing is the reason there is a Resistance. A fair part of the Society is sunk.

bowler · « **Reply #6 on:** May 17, 2013, 08:44:34 AM »

"Crisis Rarely Preached"

Crisis in the Church

Same at all of the chapels in my State. Nothing is mentioned about the crisis in the Church, or anything of substance. Everything is like Fr. Becks letter, hollow, with no direct application to the real world in which live.

Crisis in Our Everyday Lives

Nothing is mentioned about the crisis in our everyday lives, or anything of substance. Everything is like Fr. Becks letter, hollow, with no direct application to the real world in which live. Our boys going down the drain, drugs, porno, video game addicts, our daughters going down the drain, having pre-marital sex, going out on dates by themselves, drinking alcohol, dressing like any other girl in the world. Our young men not having any job skills because the SSPX schools only teach liberal arts. Our young men getting married at 20 years of age with no means of support but their parents. I could go on and on with subject matter for instructive real world applicable sermons to help, to guide, the flock, enough to give a sermon EVERYDAY. And yet, we get NOTHING!

I go now to the SSPX chapels to get the sacraments, I expect no more. We are on our own as far as all of the problems around us. I can take care of myself. I pity the other parishioners, they are the blind sheep being led by the blind shepherd. I pity most their children, for they don't stand a chance!

Mea Culpa · « **Reply #7 on:** May 17, 2013, 10:41:52 AM »

Quote from: bowler

"Crisis Rarely Preached"

Crisis in the Church

Same at all of the chapels in my State. Nothing is mentioned about the crisis in the Church, or anything of substance. Everything is like Fr. Becks letter, hollow, with no direct application to the real world in which live.

Crisis in Our Everyday Lives

Nothing is mentioned about the crisis in our everyday lives, or anything of substance. Everything is like Fr. Becks letter, hollow, with no direct application to the real world in which live. Our boys going down the drain, drugs, porno, video game addicts, our daughters going down the drain, having pre-marital sex, going out on dates by themselves, drinking alcohol, dressing like any other girl in the world. Our young men not having any job skills because the SSPX schools only teach liberal arts. Our young men getting married at 20 years of age with no means of support but their parents. I could go on and on with subject matter for instructive real world applicable sermons to help, to guide, the flock, enough to give a sermon EVERYDAY. And yet, we get NOTHING!

I go now to the SSPX chapels to get the sacraments, I expect no more. We are on our own as far as all of the problems around us. I can take care of myself. I pity the other parishioners, they are the blind sheep being led by the blind shepherd. I pity most their children, for they don't stand a chance!

I for one cannot stomach this Neo-SSPX false deception of outwardly showing to be "Tradition Catholic".....even if the sacraments are valid when well knowingly that they're slowly cooking everyone with the modernists poison.

With such a negative environment Bowler, why do you even put yourself in the midst of all of this?

Raphaela · « **Reply #8 on:** May 17, 2013, 10:55:33 AM »

There is a mistake in Fr. Most's argument:

Quote from: sspxbvm

Hence, no matter on what level Vatican II, was teaching in this Declaration, the charge amounts to a charge that a general council taught heresy. Then the promises of Christ would be at least largely void..."

The Council didn't teach Religious Liberty on any level. They covered themselves in Lumen Gentium:

"Taking conciliar custom into consideration and also the pastoral purpose of the present Council, the sacred Council defines as binding on the Church only those things in matters of faith and morals which it shall openly declare to be binding. The rest of the things which the sacred Council sets forth, inasmuch as they are the teaching of the Church's supreme magisterium, ought to be accepted and embraced by each and every one of Christ's faithful according to the mind of the sacred Council. The mind of the Council becomes known either from the matter treated or from its manner of speaking, in accordance with the norms of theological interpretation.

"http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/docuмents/vat-ii_const_19641121_lumen-gentium_en.html

In fact, it declared nothing to be binding. Catholics were only bound to that which in the docuмents had been previously taught by the Church.

Vatican II was not a General Council but a "pastoral council", as publicly stated by John XXIII and Paul VI. It is the only one of its type in the history of the Church and the normal rules for Councils don't apply. The Holy Ghost prevented it from voiding the promises of Christ.

Incredulous · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2013, 01:41:34 PM »

Quote from: bowler

"Crisis Rarely Preached"

Crisis in the Church

Same at all of the chapels in my State. Nothing is mentioned about the crisis in the Church, or anything of substance. Everything is like Fr. Becks letter, hollow, with no direct application to the real world in which live.

Crisis in Our Everyday Lives

Nothing is mentioned about the crisis in our everyday lives, or anything of substance. Everything is like Fr. Becks letter, hollow, with no direct application to the real world in which live. Our boys going down the drain, drugs, porno, video game addicts, our daughters going down the drain, having pre-marital sex, going out on dates by themselves, drinking alcohol, dressing like any other girl in the world. Our young men not having any job skills because the SSPX schools only teach liberal arts. Our young men getting married at 20 years of age with no means of support but their parents. I could go on and on with subject matter for instructive real world applicable sermons to help, to guide, the flock, enough to give a sermon EVERYDAY. And yet, we get NOTHING!

I go now to the SSPX chapels to get the sacraments, I expect no more. We are on our own as far as all of the problems around us. I can take care of myself. I pity the other parishioners, they are the blind sheep being led by the blind shepherd. I pity most their children, for they don't stand a chance!

Bowler,

You hit on point here that many of us have observed from the SSPX pulpits.
It's the hollowness of the neoSSPX priest's message.

Of course, they will pontificate about the Faith and holiness, but without the context of life in 2013.

Topics such as Rome's responsibility for the Church crisis, the obvious divisions within the SSPX, modernists, false doctrines, ʝʊdɛօ-masonic attacks... these things are mainly omitted.

Consider Father Themann's treatise on "No Crisis within the SSPX". Obviously, his superiors coached him in writing these half-truths.

What else can we conclude but that these shepherds are guilty of the sins of lying and omission? Let us pray for the sanctity and perseverance of their collective priesthoods.