Author Topic: The leadership in Saint Marys (Read 9987 times)

Domitilla · « **Reply #35 on:** May 18, 2013, 02:05:50 PM »

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Domitilla · « **Reply #36 on:** May 18, 2013, 02:08:47 PM »

Haven't you read about +Fellay's "grace of state"? That was the topic du jour last spring. But you have asked one of the million dollar questions, Matto. The SSPX brass don't seem to be making that interesting claim now.

Domitilla · « **Reply #37 on:** May 18, 2013, 02:32:23 PM »

Speaking of +Fellay's "grace of state", I have wondered how he was "deceived" by Pope Benedict XVI while he possesses this gift.

bowler · « **Reply #38 on:** May 19, 2013, 02:47:13 AM »

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"Crisis Rarely Preached"
Nothing is mentioned about the crisis in our everyday lives, or anything of substance. Everything is like Fr. Becks letter, hollow, with no direct application to the real world in which live. Our boys going down the drain, drugs, porno, video game addicts, our daughters going down the drain, having pre-marital sex, going out on dates by themselves, drinking alcohol, dressing like any other girl in the world. Our young men not having any job skills because the SSPX schools only teach liberal arts. Our young men getting married at 20 years of age with no means of support but their parents. I could go on and on with subject matter for instructive real world applicable sermons to help, to guide, the flock, enough to give a sermon EVERYDAY. And yet, we get NOTHING!

This sounds like a fantasy. I live in St. Marys, and while there are a few bad eggs (hardly not surprising given St. Marys' huge size), nearly all of the people I know here are quite good people. Of course there is liberalism here and there. One cannot live in the world without being affected by it to some degree. And yet the priests are trying very hard to eliminate that liberalism, especially in the children. The Eucharistic crusaders, the C.O.M. and the Knights have all been rejuvenated and have seen a dramatic growth in membership and activity, the Catechism of the Crisis by Fr. Gaudron is being made a mandatory part of the high school curriculum, the works of the Archbishop are being heavily promoted. And these are just some of the things that are being done. Fr. Beck has instituted a weekly lecture series on topics pertaining to Catholic Faith and culture and they are being very well-attended. If you listen to Fr. Beck's sermons they are quite good and have helped me immensely. Just a few weeks ago I heard a sermon by Fr. Desautard excoriating the people for lukewarmness and spiritual mediocrity. Fr. Angele's sermons are also very good, and very practical.

The resistance keeps making these claims...and yet I see with my own eyes the exact opposite of what they claim!

#1- I was not talking about St. Mary's, I said in my state. And I can assure you that it is no fantasy.

Now regarding St. Mary's, are you telling me that this does not apply to St. Mary's:
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Our young men not having any job skills because the SSPX schools only teach liberal arts. Our young men getting married at 20 years of age with no means of support but their parents.

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If you listen to Fr. Beck's sermons they are quite good and have helped me immensely.

What exactly were they about that helped you in something (in what)? I've had people tell me, "Wasn't that a great sermon?", when the sermon was a hollow joke. I then ask them what was great about it, and they can't even remember what the sermon was about, when I knew every word.

The first, applies to a few people. Most of the people I know didn't get married until they had a college degree and a decent job, or are apprenticed in a trade, or were fortunate enough to get a good job ($50K+) out of high school. What you describes exists but is certainly far from common.

The last sermon, was about how feminism by degrading the feminine nature of woman is destroying the family, and the importance of devotion to Our Lady as the Mother of God in restoring feminine nature and in thus restoring the family and Christendom. It was quite good and inspired my Rosaries :).

The priest, btw, was newly ordained, in case you were wondering.

Without seeing you face to face and getting to know you, talking to you over time, it is impossible to know if you know what you are talking about or are just blind. Therefore, there's no point in delving further. Suffice it to say that you sound like a person who is disconnected from the real world of youths today. You said that "in a big town like St. Mary's", however, I know that St. Mary's is a tiny tiny town I've been there. That right there tells me something.

I know for a fact that there are MANY young people on welfare and assistance at St. Mary's, and that ANY kind of decent wage work is hard to come by. I know that the school, like all SSPX schools is not preparing men for the real work world. Their focus on the liberal arts is only good if someone is going to be a school teacher, or a priest (like 2% of the population maybe?), or a writer, artist etc.

Incredulous · « **Reply #39 on:** May 19, 2013, 03:10:17 AM »

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I don't want to burst anyone's bubble, but St. Mary's is a town with a bunker mentality:.

After visiting there several times, the attitude I sense is: "It's holy us against the evil world"!

Good people there for sure, but once you join the community, its hard not to fall in line with the small town thinking.

Imperfect of course, but those who sacrifice to go there, benefit much from being surrounded by fellow Catholics with easy access to the Sacraments.

God bless them all... and may they get a new Superior General and District Superior soon, to lead them to the higher ideals of the Faith.