Just wanted to add a few thoughts to that thread about the Greg Taylor resistance (this is what we should call it from now on - since Father Hewko calls him the "GK Chesterton of our times".


The videos of this cult are getting quite a few views on youtube, and they are literally getting followers from the confusion people have between them and us. Even more compounded by the Father Hewko Marian Corps and the Father Chazal Marian Corps.


The bottom line is that they have pretty much definitely cut all ties with us. They are no longer trying to reconcile with us or bring us "back to the Truth", but attack us.






For people who are discerning, you need to go on the attack. Don't let them be the attackers, which is what they thrive of. So let me give you a few pointers on how to deal with them:


__________


Ask them "Where are your Bishops??". They will dodge the question and say something about God providing. They all give fifty different answers depending on who you are talking to. But this is their Achilles heel. Why? Because if they are the true remnant they would have at least one Bishop. Why? Because Our Lord promised that His Church would last until the end of time. This means his Sacraments.


The Bishop, not the priest is fullness of the Sacrament of Holy Orders. This is part of OUR FAITH. When Our Lord promised that His Church would last until the end of time, he did not mean just lay people with the Faith. He meant his clergy. That, even at the time of the AntiChrist there would be at least one Catholic Bishop somewhere alive and able to perform the Sacraments. While after Baptism you can make it to heaven technically without the other Sacraments, this does not mean the other sacraments will just fail. There will always be some holy marriages, some good confirmations, some good confessions, some good Masses, somewhere in the world. The Church militant including the Bishops would survive. ALWAYS.

Knowing this some of the Greg Taylor cult will try to say there are secret Bishops somewhere. We just don't know where they are. However Pope Greg Taylor, when pressed on the issue recently in a telegram chat was even more non committal, he just said "we don't know".

_____


Whats even more disturbing though is their radical change in the importance of Operation Surivival of Archbishop Lefebvre.

According to Greg it was not about consecrating Bishops, but preserving the Faith.

Here are Gregs words:
"I don't think you really appreciate or understand what Archbishop Lefebvre did in 1988. Read the text of his sermon on that day, where he says, in his own words, what he's doing and why. "I am simply a bishop of the Catholic Church who is continuing to transmit Catholic doctrine."

Notice he says that what he is transmitting is "Catholic doctrine" - not "bishops" or "holy orders" or "clergy". "


Of course when it was pointed out to Greg that THE WHOLE POINT OF THE EVENT WAS TO CONSECRATE BISHOPS, he just ignores that. Refused to answer.


This is because his theological position is, and I quote:

"Catholic clergy presupposes the Catholic Faith. Sacred Scripture, for instance, doesn't say "without the clergy it is impossible to please God." - Greg Taylor

This is completely false and erroneous. If you believe this you are not Catholic. Why? Because the Sacrament of Holy Orders is part of our Faith, and so the Catholic Faith is what presupposes Catholic Clergy, not the other way around. A lay member of the Church Militant may not be in the same physical place as a Bishop, but the existence of the Catholic Faith, which each and everyone of us are compelled to discern is an objective thing. We can see it in others. Probably one of the main reasons Our Lord compelled us to profess our Faith. So others can be brought to it. But he deisgnated Clergy for that particular teaching and preaching role, so they are obliged even more than lay people to profess their Faith publicly on a regular basis, as well as instruct in it and bring everybody to it.


____

A lot of Gregs problems are based around a confusion between one's personal faith, and THE Faith, objectively known and discernable to all, even the Demons. And also a denial of the visibility of the Church. Because HIS faith might survive without Bishops, means that THE Church can survive without Bishops.


___

Also interesting, when asked exactly how long this situation of no Bishops would go on for, there was no answer. Because they have none. A period without the office of the Papacy always happened in the Church, but there has NEVER been a period without Catholic Bishops, The Sacrament of Holy Orders has always continued. It is wholy abhorrent to all pious ears to say otherwise

Their position is an implied attackon the Sacrament, and they are drifting more and more to making it explicit. It is perverse and must be rejected by anyone who loves Our Lord and His Holy Religion.

____

So they are a cult, for at least the reason that they are based around the opinions of a layman. Not the office of Bishop, which is the proper role given to this task by Our Lord.

From now on it's important that they be exposed in my opinion. Torn down ruthlessly. Because they are just toxic.It doesnt matter anymore if they are personally scandalised, because the damage they are causing is greater than their personal scandal. Don't feel sorry for them.






I'll end with that and leave you with some of Pope Gregory's quotes which I used above :



____
"I could tell you that we need bishops, and I might be wrong. Or that we don't need them and I might be wrong about that too. What I'm certain of is that God gives us what we need. So if there is a need for a bishop at some point (now? ...soon? ...at some point in the future?) then God will provide."
____

"Let me clear this up. We're the original Resistance. Many of us remember leaving the SSPX in 2012 and 2013. The only reason there's any confusion as to who / what the Resistance is today, is because Bishop Williamson's followers - people who dedicated themselves to agreeing with and defending whatever he said no matter how obviously wrong, and even if they themselves had been saying the opposite five minutes earlier - insist on calling themselves "the Resistance" even though their guiding light Bishop Williamson disavowed the name every time it came up and told anyone who would listen that he didn't even believe in such a thing as "the Resistance."

___
"Catholic clergy presupposes the Catholic Faith. Sacred Scripture, for instance, doesn't say "without the clergy it is impossible to please God."
__

".I don't think you really appreciate or understand what Archbishop Lefebvre did in 1988. Read the text of his sermon on that day, where he says, in his own words, what he's doing and why. "I am simply a bishop of the Catholic Church who is continuing to transmit Catholic doctrine."

Notice he says that what he is transmitting is "Catholic doctrine" - not "bishops" or "holy orders" or "clergy". "