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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: covet truth on November 05, 2014, 11:29:43 AM
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Mine is a different perspective of what is going on in the Northeast and it is this. Father Zendejas is not the problem. Most of you are allowing yourselves to be manipulated by the "little man in the red suit" aka = Pablo! He is the source and the root of all of this discord. You only have to go to the OLMC website, his website (which Fr. P. allows to represent the resistance). He HATES Bishop Williamson. He HATES Father Zendejas. Why? Because he has no power over them. Since he has no power over them he seeks to destroy their reputation and their good name. The million dollar question is what power does he have over Fr. Pfeiffer? That should be everyone's main concern.
There are good priests who would come to be with Fr. P. but will never join him because of Pablo. Pablo is the reason the resistance will never grow in the U.S. Father Zendejas has done us a great favor, whether he knows it or not, in causing Pablo's hatred to be exposed for all to see. Now that it has, he must be banished to wherever it was he came. Only then can peace and order be restored in the resistance.
My question to you, Father Pfeiffer, is why do you allow Pablo to use you and the OLMC website to spew his hatred? Why, when many laity and priests have told you that Pablo is nuts and dangerously so, do you refuse to get rid of him? These are the questions that need answering. That's where our focus belongs.
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I think your analysis is spot-on, c.t. Pablo is like a cancerous tumor on the Resistance that must be removed if the patient is to live. I can't support Our Lady of Mount Carmel any more until they remove that tumor.
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I also cannot! Fr. P wants to know where Fr. Z stands? That in itself is ridiculous, nonetheless, we want to know why Pablo can get away with this on IN THIS SIGN site.
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My hope is that someone will show Bishop Williamson the OLMC website. He needs to see what we are up against within our own ranks.
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I think your analysis is spot-on, c.t. Pablo is like a cancerous tumor on the Resistance that must be removed if the patient is to live. I can't support Our Lady of Mount Carmel any more until they remove that tumor.
Dragging this man, Pablo, into the picture, is like moving a stick around the bottom of a pond, drudging up all sorts of muck, obscuring the issues.
He is not the problem. His recent website posting is certainly inflammatory and sensationalized and certainly also adds muck to the issues...But to blame on him all the issues at hand is silly.
It would be like saying you couldn't 'support' Our Lord because Judas was his follower/priest/bishop. Please note, I am certainly not calling Pablo a Judas. I'm sure the man thinks he is helping...
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It's Pablo, himself, who is the muckraker! If that is your cup of tea, so be it.
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I think your analysis is spot-on, c.t. Pablo is like a cancerous tumor on the Resistance that must be removed if the patient is to live. I can't support Our Lady of Mount Carmel any more until they remove that tumor.
Dragging this man, Pablo, into the picture, is like moving a stick around the bottom of a pond, drudging up all sorts of muck, obscuring the issues.
He is not the problem. His recent website posting is certainly inflammatory and sensationalized and certainly also adds muck to the issues...But to blame on him all the issues at hand is silly.
It would be like saying you couldn't 'support' Our Lord because Judas was his follower/priest/bishop. Please note, I am certainly not calling Pablo a Judas. I'm sure the man thinks he is helping...
Well said.
Perhaps also, these people can ask Fr. Pfieffer their particular questions instead of spreading more defamation against another individual.
The good God's 10-Commandments do apply on internet forums as well; he is Omnipresent and All knowing; also forgiving to those who ask.
Let the priests handle the situation. Adding these inflammatory remarks do not help.
Have peace...
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Pocho (pocha fem.) is a term used by native-born Mexicans to describe Chicanos and those who have left Mexico. Typically, pochos speak English and lack fluency in Spanish. Among some pochos, the term has been embraced to express pride in having both a Mexican and an American heritage[1] asserting their place in the diverse American culture. The word derives from the Spanish word pocho, used to describe fruit that has become rotten or discolored.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocho
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It's Pablo, himself, who is the muckraker! If that is your cup of tea, so be it.
I believe that's what I said, lol, he is a muckraker.
But if one is going to be so small-minded to not support a cause (in this case, the Resistance) even if it is known to be working for the good of souls and zealously defending the Tradition of Holy Mother Church because of one inflammatory character...well that's just ... silly!
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Pocho (pocha fem.) is a term used by native-born Mexicans to describe Chicanos and those who have left Mexico. Typically, pochos speak English and lack fluency in Spanish. Among some pochos, the term has been embraced to express pride in having both a Mexican and an American heritage[1] asserting their place in the diverse American culture. The word derives from the Spanish word pocho, used to describe fruit that has become rotten or discolored.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocho
No better description than that one!
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Perhaps also, these people can ask Fr. Pfieffer their particular questions instead of spreading more defamation against another individual.
The good God's 10-Commandments do apply on internet forums as well; he is Omnipresent and All knowing; also forgiving to those who ask.
Let the priests handle the situation. Adding these inflammatory remarks do not help.
Have peace...
Yes, and those 10 Commandments apply to ALL websites, including "OurLadyOfMountCarmelUSA.com" which is where a post containing slander and defamation against a good Traditional priest as well as a traditional Bishop.
And Fr. Pfeiffer is responsible for what is posted there, since it claims to be the OFFICIAL website of his apostolate. If there is a different official website, I'm all ears.
Even if Pablo is the "bad guy", Fr. P is sinning by consent. I don't care what is going on behind the scenes. There is no alternate universe where a post like that would be morally acceptable.
The post called them wolves in sheeps' clothing, and suggested that they are LITERALLY children of Hell!
There are several ways to be guilty of sin (action, advice, consent, coercion, etc.)
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It's Pablo, himself, who is the muckraker! If that is your cup of tea, so be it.
I believe that's what I said, lol, he is a muckraker.
But if one is going to be so small-minded to not support a cause (in this case, the Resistance) even if it is known to be working for the good of souls and zealously defending the Tradition of Holy Mother Church because of one inflammatory character...well that's just ... silly!
No one is going to boycott the Resistance because of Pablo.
I've known about him and his behavior since 2012, and I've been a fervent supporter of the Resistance nevertheless.
Fr. Pfeiffer, however, had better rein him in or there are going to be SERIOUS problems going forward. Pablo's latest behavior ("wolves in sheep's clothing") is downright scandalous.
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UPDATE:
It appears that the post has FINALLY been taken down in the past few hours.
It was up for about 2 days though.
Better late than never, I suppose.
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I was afraid that would happen as now the hatred becomes once again hidden. Nevertheless, I have retained a copy just in case the Bishop hasn't seen it. It's not enough to remove the offending slander. That doesn't wipe the slate clean. It just means someone is getting rid of the evidence.
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UPDATE:
It appears that the post has FINALLY been taken down in the past few hours.
It was up for about 2 days though.
Better late than never, I suppose.
I was afraid that would happen as now the hatred becomes once again hidden. Nevertheless, I have retained a copy just in case the Bishop hasn't seen it. It's not enough to remove the offending slander. That doesn't wipe the slate clean. It just means someone is getting rid of the evidence.
That particular hatred (the one that included the bishop) might be "hidden" on the OurLadyofMountCarmelUSA website now, but other things remain:
http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/sheep-stealing-summary/
Sheep Stealing Summary
Posted on 2014/11/01
[see website for image]
Here is a brief summary of what was presented to the Faithful:
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Posted in: Uncategorized
A post with a dig at the French Resistants:
http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/news-from-the-french/
News from the French
Posted on 2014/07/16
The French have found a nice comfortable place from which to engage Satan and his Apostate Angels.
pablo the Amateur Exorcist productions wishes them well in all their endeavors.
(http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Lefebvre-Union-1.jpg)
Pablo's youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2MEcUPsgl4
Our Lady's Resistance and how She deals with Sheep stealing Puerto Ricans
CathInfo
Published on Oct 30, 2014
pablo the Amateur Exorcist productions has been informed the Englishman is a Scott....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTwN6DF0uE4
Stealing Our Lady's Sheep An attack upon Our Lady's Resistance
CathInfo
Published on Oct 27, 2014
By refusing Heaven's wishes and not consecrating a Bishop, His Excellency can destroy unchallenged...except by us Cristeros.
His Excellency Bishop Richard Nelson Williamson has launched another vicious attack against Our Lady's Resistance...Father Zendajas is to reconnoiter at the next Confirmations to put into action Satan's plan to steal some Canadian Sheep. First Novus Ordo killing of souls, SSPX betrayal of killing of souls, now this traitorous action by a Puerto Rican and an Englishman to attack the Body of Christ.
[emphasis added]
[p.s. I don't know whose facebook page this is for sure, but it sure is creepy:
https://es-la.facebook.com/marco.p.garzon
Marco Paul Hernandez Garzon]
not to mention the calumnies he posted against Bp. Williamson in 2012 before he got banned from every forum
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sorry; too late to remove my facebook comment, which may be irrelevant
just ignore it
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Revisiting his youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTwN6DF0uE4
Stealing Our Lady's Sheep An attack upon Our Lady's Resistance
CathInfo
Published on Oct 27, 2014
By refusing Heaven's wishes and not consecrating a Bishop, His Excellency can destroy unchallenged...except by us Cristeros.
His Excellency Bishop Richard Nelson Williamson has launched another vicious attack against Our Lady's Resistance...Father Zendajas is to reconnoiter at the next Confirmations to put into action Satan's plan to steal some Canadian Sheep. First Novus Ordo killing of souls, SSPX betrayal of killing of souls, now this traitorous action by a Puerto Rican and an Englishman to attack the Body of Christ.
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That particular hatred (the one that included the bishop) might be "hidden" on the OurLadyofMountCarmelUSA website now, but other things remain:
http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/sheep-stealing-summary/
Sheep Stealing Summary
Posted on 2014/11/01
[see website for image]
Here is a brief summary of what was presented to the Faithful:
[...]
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Posted in: Uncategorized
A post with a dig at the French Resistants:
http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/news-from-the-french/
News from the French
Posted on 2014/07/16
The French have found a nice comfortable place from which to engage Satan and his Apostate Angels.
pablo the Amateur Exorcist productions wishes them well in all their endeavors.
(http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Lefebvre-Union-1.jpg)
Pablo's youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2MEcUPsgl4
Our Lady's Resistance and how She deals with Sheep stealing Puerto Ricans
CathInfo
Published on Oct 30, 2014
pablo the Amateur Exorcist productions has been informed the Englishman is a Scott....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTwN6DF0uE4
Stealing Our Lady's Sheep An attack upon Our Lady's Resistance
CathInfo
Published on Oct 27, 2014
By refusing Heaven's wishes and not consecrating a Bishop, His Excellency can destroy unchallenged...except by us Cristeros.
His Excellency Bishop Richard Nelson Williamson has launched another vicious attack against Our Lady's Resistance...Father Zendajas is to reconnoiter at the next Confirmations to put into action Satan's plan to steal some Canadian Sheep. First Novus Ordo killing of souls, SSPX betrayal of killing of souls, now this traitorous action by a Puerto Rican and an Englishman to attack the Body of Christ.
[emphasis added]
I am appalled to see this. This cannot be tolerated by any decent Catholic. If Fr. Pfeiffer doesn't shut this down then he is just as guilty as pablo -- more so because he is a priest. I am quickly losing any respect I have for him. Why is he allowing this? I can understand his jealousy of Fr. Zendejas, but doesn't he need the Bishop?
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I suppose Pablo articulates Fr. P's thoughts with regard to the 'loose association' and the disposition of resistance priests that come and go. One either describes reality or one hides it and those with a reliable memory know all about the secrecy the SSPX became well known for from its inception. The loose association is aptly and honestly named because it will experience its fair share of failures, disappointments, in-fighting and personality problems and this should be expected because resistance does not mean unity. In fact, agreement may be lacking when it comes to what exactly is being resisted!
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I suppose Pablo articulates Fr. P's thoughts with regard to the 'loose association' and the disposition of resistance priests that come and go. One either describes reality or one hides it and those with a reliable memory know all about the secrecy the SSPX became well known for from its inception. The loose association is aptly and honestly named because it will experience its fair share of failures, disappointments, in-fighting and personality problems and this should be expected because resistance does not mean unity. In fact, agreement may be lacking when it comes to what exactly is being resisted!
By their Fruits.....
This effort has been underway for a sufficient duration that it can be judged as to its progress, or what some might see it as to its regress.
Father Pfeiffer has suffered a loss of credibility in his efforts and doubts about his judgement, more than once relating to this situation, and he has not seen it appropriate to stop it from happening. If one remembers, this problem popped up right at the beginning.
We are almost two years out, and here it is yet again. Small squabbles and "he said, they said" controversies which have no material value in saving souls or helping the True Church recover.
The Mexican and the Padre are doing who knows what, the Bishop is chasing after unexamined visions, they are only united in trying to unravel the lace of Bishop Fellay's Surplice, as he continues to do the same as he has done for a few years now.
One leads souls to Modern Rome and the others lead them back to Menzingen.
Serious men who understand the true gravity of our present day Catholic realities, and who have the humility and true Charity to act according to that peril which is present within those realities, are most urgently needed.
One wonders if it will be possible to find them?
Perhaps our Good Lord will raise them and inspire us to leave the playground and journey onto the battlefield.
Such men would have nothing to do with the follies which have been demonstrated in this, and the other related threads. Serious men would have no part in them. Look to our great Saints for the evidence of this.
May all of the glorious titles by which our Mother is known be invoked that She may inspire in some mens' hearts those qualities that will lead us to the fight, and in the way of Salvation.
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Serious men who understand the true gravity of our present day Catholic realities, and who have the humility and true Charity to act according to that peril which is present within those realities, are most urgently needed.
One wonders if it will be possible to find them?
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I believe they exist. I know at least one of them. But like Our Lord Who came into His own and His own received Him not, maybe we don't deserve to have what is right in front of our eyes.
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Mine is a different perspective of what is going on in the Northeast and it is this. Father Zendejas is not the problem. Most of you are allowing yourselves to be manipulated by the "little man in the red suit" aka = Pablo! He is the source and the root of all of this discord. You only have to go to the OLMC website, his website (which Fr. P. allows to represent the resistance). He HATES Bishop Williamson. He HATES Father Zendejas. Why? Because he has no power over them. Since he has no power over them he seeks to destroy their reputation and their good name. The million dollar question is what power does he have over Fr. Pfeiffer? That should be everyone's main concern.
There are good priests who would come to be with Fr. P. but will never join him because of Pablo. Pablo is the reason the resistance will never grow in the U.S. Father Zendejas has done us a great favor, whether he knows it or not, in causing Pablo's hatred to be exposed for all to see. Now that it has, he must be banished to wherever it was he came. Only then can peace and order be restored in the resistance.
My question to you, Father Pfeiffer, is why do you allow Pablo to use you and the OLMC website to spew his hatred? Why, when many laity and priests have told you that Pablo is nuts and dangerously so, do you refuse to get rid of him? These are the questions that need answering. That's where our focus belongs.
Having experienced Fr Pfeiffer's apostolate in India, my opinion is that he is very, very generous to his Pablos who in turn are blindly loyal to him. He has total control over them and they will go to the ends of the world for him.
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Having experienced Fr Pfeiffer's apostolate in India, my opinion is that he is very, very generous to his Pablos who in turn are blindly loyal to him. He has total control over them and they will go to the ends of the world for him.
What you relate about Father Pfeiffer is the definition of a cult mentality. If true, it presents a frightening scenario for those who blindly follow him. It also reveals another dimension to Father. "Total control" would mean not only does he know what Pablo writes, he would be the mastermind behind it; as well as all of the lies and the slander directed at Bishop Williamson and Father Zendejas. We can only pray that the truth will be known soon. St. Michael, the Archangel, defend us in battle.....