Author Topic: The forces of good vs the forces of evil (Read 3281 times)

covet truth · « **on:** November 05, 2014, 11:29:43 AM »

Mine is a different perspective of what is going on in the Northeast and it is this. Father Zendejas is not the problem. Most of you are allowing yourselves to be manipulated by the "little man in the red suit" aka = Pablo! He is the source and the root of all of this discord. You only have to go to the OLMC website, his website (which Fr. P. allows to represent the resistance). He HATES Bishop Williamson. He HATES Father Zendejas. Why? Because he has no power over them. Since he has no power over them he seeks to destroy their reputation and their good name. The million dollar question is what power does he have over Fr. Pfeiffer? That should be everyone's main concern.

There are good priests who would come to be with Fr. P. but will never join him because of Pablo. Pablo is the reason the resistance will never grow in the U.S. Father Zendejas has done us a great favor, whether he knows it or not, in causing Pablo's hatred to be exposed for all to see. Now that it has, he must be banished to wherever it was he came. Only then can peace and order be restored in the resistance.

My question to you, Father Pfeiffer, is why do you allow Pablo to use you and the OLMC website to spew his hatred? Why, when many laity and priests have told you that Pablo is nuts and dangerously so, do you refuse to get rid of him? These are the questions that need answering. That's where our focus belongs.

brianhope · « **Reply #1 on:** November 05, 2014, 12:29:36 PM »

I think your analysis is spot-on, c.t. Pablo is like a cancerous tumor on the Resistance that must be removed if the patient is to live. I can't support Our Lady of Mount Carmel any more until they remove that tumor.

JmJ2cents · « **Reply #2 on:** November 05, 2014, 12:38:06 PM »

I also cannot! Fr. P wants to know where Fr. Z stands? That in itself is ridiculous, nonetheless, we want to know why Pablo can get away with this on IN THIS SIGN site.

covet truth · « **Reply #3 on:** November 05, 2014, 01:32:50 PM »

My hope is that someone will show Bishop Williamson the OLMC website. He needs to see what we are up against within our own ranks.

KatieRose · « **Reply #4 on:** November 05, 2014, 01:52:06 PM »

Quote from: brianhope

I think your analysis is spot-on, c.t. Pablo is like a cancerous tumor on the Resistance that must be removed if the patient is to live. I can't support Our Lady of Mount Carmel any more until they remove that tumor.

Dragging this man, Pablo, into the picture, is like moving a stick around the bottom of a pond, drudging up all sorts of muck, obscuring the issues.

He is not the problem. His recent website posting is certainly inflammatory and sensationalized and certainly also adds muck to the issues...But to blame on him all the issues at hand is silly.

It would be like saying you couldn't 'support' Our Lord because Judas was his follower/priest/bishop. Please note, I am certainly not calling Pablo a Judas. I'm sure the man thinks he is helping...

covet truth · « **Reply #5 on:** November 05, 2014, 01:56:48 PM »

It's Pablo, himself, who is the muckraker! If that is your cup of tea, so be it.

Machabees · « **Reply #6 on:** November 05, 2014, 02:06:26 PM »

Quote from: KatieRose

Quote from: brianhope
I think your analysis is spot-on, c.t. Pablo is like a cancerous tumor on the Resistance that must be removed if the patient is to live. I can't support Our Lady of Mount Carmel any more until they remove that tumor.

Dragging this man, Pablo, into the picture, is like moving a stick around the bottom of a pond, drudging up all sorts of muck, obscuring the issues.

He is not the problem. His recent website posting is certainly inflammatory and sensationalized and certainly also adds muck to the issues...But to blame on him all the issues at hand is silly.

It would be like saying you couldn't 'support' Our Lord because Judas was his follower/priest/bishop. Please note, I am certainly not calling Pablo a Judas. I'm sure the man thinks he is helping...

Well said.

Perhaps also, these people can ask Fr. Pfieffer their particular questions instead of spreading more defamation against another individual.

The good God's 10-Commandments do apply on internet forums as well; he is Omnipresent and All knowing; also forgiving to those who ask.

Let the priests handle the situation. Adding these inflammatory remarks do not help.

Have peace...

Centroamerica · « **Reply #7 on:** November 05, 2014, 02:08:41 PM »

Quote from: wikipedia

Pocho (pocha fem.) is a term used by native-born Mexicans to describe Chicanos and those who have left Mexico. Typically, pochos speak English and lack fluency in Spanish. Among some pochos, the term has been embraced to express pride in having both a Mexican and an American heritage[1] asserting their place in the diverse American culture. The word derives from the Spanish word pocho, used to describe fruit that has become rotten or discolored.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocho

KatieRose · « **Reply #8 on:** November 05, 2014, 02:09:54 PM »

Quote from: covet truth

It's Pablo, himself, who is the muckraker! If that is your cup of tea, so be it.

I believe that's what I said, lol, he is a muckraker.

But if one is going to be so small-minded to not support a cause (in this case, the Resistance) even if it is known to be working for the good of souls and zealously defending the Tradition of Holy Mother Church because of one inflammatory character...well that's just ... silly!

covet truth · « **Reply #9 on:** November 05, 2014, 02:45:53 PM »

Quote from: Centroamerica

Quote from: wikipedia
Pocho (pocha fem.) is a term used by native-born Mexicans to describe Chicanos and those who have left Mexico. Typically, pochos speak English and lack fluency in Spanish. Among some pochos, the term has been embraced to express pride in having both a Mexican and an American heritage[1] asserting their place in the diverse American culture. The word derives from the Spanish word pocho, used to describe fruit that has become rotten or discolored.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocho

No better description than that one!

Matthew · « **Reply #10 on:** November 05, 2014, 02:57:45 PM »

Quote from: Machabees

Perhaps also, these people can ask Fr. Pfieffer their particular questions instead of spreading more defamation against another individual.

The good God's 10-Commandments do apply on internet forums as well; he is Omnipresent and All knowing; also forgiving to those who ask.

Let the priests handle the situation. Adding these inflammatory remarks do not help.

Have peace...

Yes, and those 10 Commandments apply to ALL websites, including "OurLadyOfMountCarmelUSA.com" which is where a post containing slander and defamation against a good Traditional priest as well as a traditional Bishop.

And Fr. Pfeiffer is responsible for what is posted there, since it claims to be the OFFICIAL website of his apostolate. If there is a different official website, I'm all ears.

Even if Pablo is the "bad guy", Fr. P is sinning by consent. I don't care what is going on behind the scenes. There is no alternate universe where a post like that would be morally acceptable.

The post called them wolves in sheeps' clothing, and suggested that they are LITERALLY children of Hell!

There are several ways to be guilty of sin (action, advice, consent, coercion, etc.)

Matthew · « **Reply #11 on:** November 05, 2014, 03:01:33 PM »

Quote from: KatieRose

Quote from: covet truth
It's Pablo, himself, who is the muckraker! If that is your cup of tea, so be it.

I believe that's what I said, lol, he is a muckraker.

But if one is going to be so small-minded to not support a cause (in this case, the Resistance) even if it is known to be working for the good of souls and zealously defending the Tradition of Holy Mother Church because of one inflammatory character...well that's just ... silly!

No one is going to boycott the Resistance because of Pablo.

I've known about him and his behavior since 2012, and I've been a fervent supporter of the Resistance nevertheless.

Fr. Pfeiffer, however, had better rein him in or there are going to be SERIOUS problems going forward. Pablo's latest behavior ("wolves in sheep's clothing") is downright scandalous.

Matthew · « **Reply #12 on:** November 05, 2014, 03:04:25 PM »

UPDATE:

It appears that the post has FINALLY been taken down in the past few hours.

It was up for about 2 days though.

Better late than never, I suppose.

covet truth · « **Reply #13 on:** November 05, 2014, 03:21:42 PM »

I was afraid that would happen as now the hatred becomes once again hidden. Nevertheless, I have retained a copy just in case the Bishop hasn't seen it. It's not enough to remove the offending slander. That doesn't wipe the slate clean. It just means someone is getting rid of the evidence.

ora pro nobis 2 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 05, 2014, 04:17:32 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

UPDATE:
It appears that the post has FINALLY been taken down in the past few hours.
It was up for about 2 days though.
Better late than never, I suppose.

Quote from: covet truth

I was afraid that would happen as now the hatred becomes once again hidden. Nevertheless, I have retained a copy just in case the Bishop hasn't seen it. It's not enough to remove the offending slander. That doesn't wipe the slate clean. It just means someone is getting rid of the evidence.

That particular hatred (the one that included the bishop) might be "hidden" on the OurLadyofMountCarmelUSA website now, but other things remain:

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http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/sheep-stealing-summary/

Sheep Stealing Summary
Posted on 2014/11/01

[see website for image]

Here is a brief summary of what was presented to the Faithful:
[...]
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Posted in: Uncategorized

A post with a dig at the French Resistants:

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http://ourladyofmountcarmelusa.com/news-from-the-french/

News from the French
Posted on 2014/07/16

The French have found a nice comfortable place from which to engage Satan and his Apostate Angels.

pablo the Amateur Exorcist productions wishes them well in all their endeavors.

Pablo's youtube channel:

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Our Lady's Resistance and how She deals with Sheep stealing Puerto Ricans
CathInfo
Published on Oct 30, 2014

pablo the Amateur Exorcist productions has been informed the Englishman is a Scott....

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Stealing Our Lady's Sheep An attack upon Our Lady's Resistance

CathInfo
Published on Oct 27, 2014

By refusing Heaven's wishes and not consecrating a Bishop, His Excellency can destroy unchallenged...except by us Cristeros.
His Excellency Bishop Richard Nelson Williamson has launched another vicious attack against Our Lady's Resistance...Father Zendajas is to reconnoiter at the next Confirmations to put into action Satan's plan to steal some Canadian Sheep. First Novus Ordo killing of souls, SSPX betrayal of killing of souls, now this traitorous action by a Puerto Rican and an Englishman to attack the Body of Christ.

[emphasis added]

[p.s. I don't know whose facebook page this is for sure, but it sure is creepy:
https://es-la.facebook.com/marco.p.garzon
Marco Paul Hernandez Garzon]

not to mention the calumnies he posted against Bp. Williamson in 2012 before he got banned from every forum