[sspxbvm]

  God forbid the SSPX be next but His permissive will could  allow it...

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/former-sspx-community-granted-formal-status-in-catholic-church/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+catholicnewsagency%2Fdailynews+%28CNA+Daily+News%29&utm_term=daily+news

  They didn't last very long in the fight, did they?

[stgobnait]

the move brings to a completion a process of reconcilliation that began in 2008, when the community JOINED the catholic church........    read it and weep...... :sad:

[Clelia]

"...joined the Catholic Church..."
 

[Roman55]

I thought they were already in the Catholic Church!  What did they 'join'? A group of buildings and a masquerade party?"  I thought one only went to costume parties if: 1. they would be of the world. 2. if they were drunk.

[Clelia]

I thought they were already in the Catholic Church!  What did they 'join'? A group of buildings and a masquerade party?"  I thought one only went to costume parties if: 1. they would be of the world. 2. if they were drunk.

That's right, Roman55 - they left the Church!

Can you believe it???  It's just another news report that should be listed under, Diabolic Disorientation.  :devil2:

[Sunbeam]

As a matter of interest, here is an excerpt from a TV docuмentary made by journalist Adam Nicholson and broadcast in the UK in 2004. It gives a glimpse of the Transalpine Redemptorists before ever there was a Benedict XVI to come wooing them away into apostasy:-

[stgobnait]

yes, i watched that a few times, it was a beacon of Catholic monastic life, what posessed them to surrender........ :thinking:

[Neil Obstat]

Remember it was +Fellay who went to Papa Stronsay to dedicate their work at
its founding, and it was he who gave them guidance. I was reading their periodical
newsletter, and I noticed little clues that they were soft on those same principles
that +Fellay is showing weakness toward, such as in his CNS interview.

Taken as a case in point, following +Fellay, and being less than firm against the
errors of Vatican II is stepping onto the slippery slope that leads to becoming
subsumed into Newchurch.

It happened to Papa Stronsay and it could well happen to at least a portion of the
SSPX. It seems to me that the only hope now is for the brave priests who are
devoted to Tradition to come together and form a united body of clear strength
in the face of +Fellay and his mind-numbed minions.

And these good priests will get their strength and resolve from God. But they will
be encouraged by the assurance of the faithful who support them.

[Wessex]

For such a small outfit it certainly is getting a lot of publicity .... mainly to show another crack in the SSPX fortress. But it is like any other initiative that is driven to wearing traditional garb in order to entrap a few rich widows and their funds. We have seen elsewhere how a handful of such priests can raise millions in a short time, purchase extensive property, print out fancy brochures and formulate an exotic apostolate. This particular enterprise was done by climbing onto the SSPX bandwagon but like so many others has seen certain advantages in switiching over to the Ecclesia Dei brand for Roman and worldly recognition especially if it can be given enough independence for it to continue its operations.

[Clelia]

yes, i watched that a few times, it was a beacon of Catholic monastic life, what posessed them to surrender........ :thinking:


 :devil2:"possessed" is the very word I had in mind, stgobnait.

[Incredulous]

Remember it was +Fellay who went to Papa Stronsay to dedicate their work at
its founding, and it was he who gave them guidance. I was reading their periodical
newsletter, and I noticed little clues that they were soft on those same principles
that +Fellay is showing weakness toward, such as in his CNS interview.

Taken as a case in point, following +Fellay, and being less than firm against the
errors of Vatican II is stepping onto the slippery slope that leads to becoming
subsumed into Newchurch.

It happened to Papa Stronsay and it could well happen to at least a portion of the
SSPX. It seems to me that the only hope now is for the brave priests who are
devoted to Tradition to come together and form a united body of clear strength
in the face of +Fellay and his mind-numbed minions.

And these good priests will get their strength and resolve from God. But they will
be encouraged by the assurance of the faithful who support them.

Interestingly, a few years ago, when the Redemptorist caved-in to Newchurch,
one of their estranged members, Father Alphonusus Mary, officially left them over the sell-out.

Its ironic that now Msgr. Fellay is doing the same thing?

(Poor Father Alphonsus... what he thinks about all this now?)

With Msgr. Fellay's early guidance of the Redemptorists, one can only wonder how long this "sell-out" conspiracy business (planning & execution)
has been going on ?  

What other "friends of the SSPX" has he infected with "prelature fever"?

Where do the Carmelites of the Holy Trinity stand?

[Neil Obstat]

For such a small outfit it certainly is getting a lot of publicity .... mainly to show another crack in the SSPX fortress. But it is like any other initiative that is driven to wearing traditional garb in order to entrap a few rich widows and their funds. We have seen elsewhere how a handful of such priests can raise millions in a short time, purchase extensive property, print out fancy brochures and formulate an exotic apostolate. This particular enterprise was done by climbing onto the SSPX bandwagon but like so many others has seen certain advantages in switiching over to the Ecclesia Dei brand for Roman and worldly recognition especially if it can be given enough independence for it to continue its operations.

From a money perspective, it could be that their support was starting to taper off,
and by going NewAge, they could be eligible for crossover status, which carries a
certain appeal, and perhaps with the right spin, could cash in on a wider market.
So the lure of the lucre might be the whole point of this.

It ought to be a warning sign for any trads looking for a good cause. You're much
better off to go with Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church in Boston, Kentucky.

[1531]

Remember it was +Fellay who went to Papa Stronsay to dedicate their work at
its founding, and it was he who gave them guidance. I was reading their periodical
newsletter, and I noticed little clues that they were soft on those same principles
that +Fellay is showing weakness toward, such as in his CNS interview.

Taken as a case in point, following +Fellay, and being less than firm against the
errors of Vatican II is stepping onto the slippery slope that leads to becoming
subsumed into Newchurch.

It happened to Papa Stronsay and it could well happen to at least a portion of the
SSPX. It seems to me that the only hope now is for the brave priests who are
devoted to Tradition to come together and form a united body of clear strength
in the face of +Fellay and his mind-numbed minions.

And these good priests will get their strength and resolve from God. But they will
be encouraged by the assurance of the faithful who support them.

Well put, Neil Obstat! I second your call to our three traditional bishops, our loyal priests to now take action and form the defence of our SSPX. I am confident that we faithful from around the world are sufficiently numerous to provide the support and form a solid base of Crusaders for the safeguarding of Tradition. May Our Blessed Lady of Guadalupe be our constant guide. Viva Cristo Rey!

[zviadist]

From a money perspective, it could be that their support was starting to taper off,
and by going NewAge, they could be eligible for crossover status, which carries a
certain appeal, and perhaps with the right spin, could cash in on a wider market.
So the lure of the lucre might be the whole point of this.

It ought to be a warning sign for any trads looking for a good cause. You're much
better off to go with Our Lady of Mount Carmel Church in Boston, Kentucky.

Indeed, but from a marketing perspective it is amazing how perceptive is Revelation 3:16:

"But because thou art lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will begin to vomit thee out of my mouth. "

No one will purchase such a product. And the once-good priests of Papa Stronsay will sadly fade into oblivion...