I think it is appropriate that I start a new thread on this topic. Therefore I am copying my post from a different thread. My post below:

Fr.Paul Kramer, one of the Resistance priest once mentioned that a true Pope could never fall into Apostasy or lead us into Apostasy because the Grace of God will prevent him from doing so. However, such is not the case for a false Pope or Anti-pope. An Anti-pope certainly does not have the Grace of the Petrine Office granted by God. Therefore an Anti-pope certainly can lead the flock into apostasy. St. Francis of Assisi foretold in his deathbed prophecy — “uncanonically elected”, and, “not a true pastor but a destroyer.”  

Please note the KEY WORDS: " Uncanonically elected" which means an election definitely took place BUT it was NOT canonical.

Fr.Kramer argues that the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI was invalid, therefore that make Francis the Anti-pope uncanonically elected. Below are the links for his arguments:

1) https://catholictruthblog.com/2013/12/30/was-pope-francis-canonically-elected/

2) http://tradcatknight.blogspot.ch/2014/06/father-paul-kramer-antipope-francis.html

Can anyone Magisterially docuмent this claim that a valid Pope can never become an Apostate?  

That sounds like elevating the Pope to a living saint just because he occupies the chair.  

And the benefits of being Pope include Turtle Wax car wax for that hard shell finish and guaranteed salvation by virtue of being Pope.  

Nice work if you can get.  

I too believe in the cardinal siri thesis.  A lot of evidence which can't be ignored.  I heard that Cardinal Siri was 're-elected / re-stepped down' all the way through JPII, which means that none of these guys would've been true popes.

   

St. Alphonsus: "It is of no matter that in past centuries some pontiff has been elected by fraud; it suffices that he has been accepted afterwards as pope by all the Church, for by this fact he becomes the true pontiff."

Cardinal Billot refers to the principle of convalidation of a papal election, meaning that despite any defects or doubtfulness regarding his election, the pope-elect is Pope if the whole Church recognizes him as such. So whether Cardinal Siri was elected or not, it was John XXIII who was recognised as Pope by the Church.

I agree with you. I'm not trusting Father Kramer's take on anything.

He's been too close to John Vennari and Fr. Gruner and a little too "beat-nick" for me.



I do believe Cardinal Siri was pope Gregory XVII.  He accepted the papacy and took a name.

You can't back-down from that... as "Joe Vennari" (his real name) claims.

Cardinal Siri's intimidation invalidated the 1958 Conclave, according to 1917 Canon Law.

If Fr. Kramer bows down to the modernists Jєω popes, he's sadly mistaken.

The wacko Gruner has blamed the French Rev on French Kings who failed to consecrate France to the Immaculate Heart of Mary'.  :roll-laugh1:

At the same time he apparently blames Pius XII for the worlds probs because He failed to consecrate Russia properly.  :roll-laugh2:

Laugh or cry?—in the news http://judaism.is/news.html


The “Team Bergoglio” Scandal
https://fromrome.wordpress.com/2014/12/25/team-bergoglio-scandal/
 
Rome — Dec. 25, 2014: Since the scandal regarding Team Bergoglio broke, the From Rome blog has assiduously followed the news and studied what the consequences have been.  On that account more than 25,000 visitors from more than 120 countries have visited this blog to find the news that was not being summarized or published elsewhere.
 
“Team Bergoglio” is the name given by Dr. Austen Ivereigh, former spokesman to His Eminence, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, ex-Archbishop of Westminster, England, to the group of Cardinals who campaigned for Cardinal Bergoglio in the 2013 Conclave.
 
The Scandalous consequences of the revelations of Dr. Ivereigh’s book, can be summed up thus: Dr. Ivereigh has written a book alleging as many as 30 cardinals did that which is apparently a violation of the papal law on conclaves, on which account they would be ipso facto excommunicated, Cardinal Bergoglio included, and the election of the latter by 2013 Conclave be null and void and of no effect. — As of this date, no substantial denial has been made by anyone of the accused, and Dr. Ivereigh has not substantially withdrawn, changed, or altered what he wrote.
 
To continue to assist Catholics and journalists world-wide who wish to know more about this scandal, we present here a summary and links through which readers can grasp the basic and detailed facts of the case which has arisen.
 
First, our article, The Chronology of Reports on “Team Bergoglio”, contains the master-list of all the news reports of note and blog posts, videos, audios, tweets, etc. which regard crucial information or analysis of the story: this list is in Chronological order according to the date the information was published or presented.
 
But since the Chronology has already grown to 8 pages in length, for those wishing to grasp the facts, we suggest the following articles:
 
• The Great Reformer: Francis and the Making of a Radical Pope, which explains just what Dr. Austen Ivereigh has written in his new book, of the same title, about who did what before and during the Conclave of 2013.
• The Improbity of the denials by “Team Bergoglio”, which explains just what some of the Cardinals, alleged by Ivereigh to have engaged in vote-canvassing, have and have not denied. An analysis which shows the probability that Cardinal Bergoglio consented to and/or organized the effort.
• The Monstrosity of Allegations against “Team Bergoglio” = Cardinal Bergoglio is not the pope, which explains the canonical consequences of the violation of the Papal law on conclaves, which Ivereigh’s text apparently convicts Cardinal Bergoglio of.
• 4 Ways the “Team Bergoglio” revelations undo Francis’ Papacy, which is an editorial explaining the grave implications for the Church stemming from the scandal, be it true or not.
• No, your Eminence, the Church is not a tyranny!, which rebuts the gross indifference of 1 Cardinal of the Roman Church to the scandal and pointedly indicates the grave Crisis into which the Catholic Church has been placed by the undenied allegations.
 
The other articles which reports facts of lesser interest, though important of themselves, can be found in the Chronology article link above.

There are not too many folk today who don't really want to get to the bottom of the post conciliar conclave hijinks. It will upset too many applecarts and overturn too many tables in the Temple.