Author Topic: The Christmas crib at the European Parliament (Read 22076 times)

hollingsworth · « **Reply #50 on:** December 16, 2014, 01:58:57 PM »

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Over ten pages of posts on this topic snd STILL no translation of the comments of the dignitaries present, and of the remarks of the Bishop? Still no solid explanation of how Fellay, who has no standing in the Church controlled by the Romans, came to be at the E.U. Headquarters just when they were putting out for public show a creche? Why wouldn't Lorans, or Krah, or DICI, or SiSi NoNo, or Rostand, even, be shouting from the rooftops how they've been accepted in the belly of the beast?

Like yeah! What's going on here? How did the sspx SG wind up blessing this rather meagre looking Creche at the headquarters of the EU? Who brought him over? Why and under what conditions would an Italian MEP of the EU agree to make the introductions? What's this CIVITAS group all about? They, apparently made the intitial arrangements. Who put them up to it? Please, not another ten pages of posts. No long winded rhetoric. No smarmy, elliptical remarks from the likes of Wessex. Just a few simple declarative sentences from someone on the site who might know, and can explain to us exactly what happened and how it all came about.
I don't have anything really against the blessing which Bp. Fellay offered. It's just the extraordinary circuмstances surrounding the event which interest me.

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #51 on:** December 26, 2014, 07:50:44 PM »

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I'm much more confused about how Bishop Fellay got invited there by European politicians in the first place.

It's his reward for stabbing Bishop Williamson in the back, throwing him under the bus and backing-up over him. It's also a preview of the type of praise he will receive when he sells-out the SSPX ( and further betrays it's founder. ) :reporter:

hollingsworth · « **Reply #52 on:** December 28, 2014, 12:31:59 PM »

Charlotte Bill:

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It's his reward for stabbing Bishop Williamson in the back, throwing him under the bus and backing-up over him. It's also a preview of the type of praise he will receive when he sells-out the SSPX ( and further betrays it's founder. )

Let's be careful here. You don't know that for sure. I support Bp. Williamson too. But I'm not prepared to say or suggest that +Fellay's blessing of the Crib had anything to do with H.E. Still, I'd like to know just how +F got the assignment, and what the circuмstances surrounding the event were. That might be a juicy piece of information.

Centroamerica · « **Reply #53 on:** December 28, 2014, 01:24:34 PM »

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Bishop Fellay is doing everything a traditional Catholic Bishop should do, working for the restoration of all things in Christ, and the return of Christian civilization, like Archbishop Lefebvre did before him.

Ah, so it is in the interests of restoring all things in Christ that Bp. Fellay has severely disciplined numbers of his priests and run others out of the sspx altogether. Bp Williamson himself, one might reasonably speculate, was punished and eventually cast out because somehow the good bishop impeded "the return of Christian civilization." Additionally, perhaps it may have been that the SG came to the rescue of "our elder brothers" because he perceived that some of H.E.'s attitudes and public utterances were preventing the restoration of Jєωιѕн civilization. Why couldn't the Archbishop have caught up with Bp. Williamson many years ago? Why could Lefebvre not have seen then that his wayward bishop was, by his actions, slowing the course of true restoration? And why, if Bp. Fellay is doing everything he should do, have so many left sspx? My wife and I have abandoned him and his movement, and don't even care to look back.

I don't believe that anyone is saying that Bishop Fellay has made no mistakes. Bishop Williamson has also made mistakes. Regarding why folks leave, over the years even when ABL was alive, there were always times when different groups would get their "knickers in a knot" and leave. When those splits happened, the Society was always stronger afterward until the next group would rise up and do it all over again taking many malcontents but some very good and honestly mislead folks with them. This is the very first time in 34 years that there seemed any real reason for concern. I believe the fog is lifting. In our chapel, we grow by leaps and bounds.

Hollingsworth, had you been with the Society for long?

I think you are forgetting that as recent as the beginning of last year Bishop Fellay received public backlash regarding his comments about the Jews.

"mentioned Jews as “enemies of the Church” in a recent address reviewing the situation of the group as it considered full communion with Rome this past year."

So actually, the fact that he is not treated like Bishop Williamson is suspect even more.

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/bishop-fellay-jews-masons-and-modernists-are-enemies-of-the-church/

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #54 on:** December 28, 2014, 07:54:25 PM »

It's strange seeing him amongst all those NWO-types just a grinning away. This is definitely a bone for trashing Williamson and lining up the SSPX for NO absorption. To confirm that just consider: What if he had always been staunchly opposed to strings-attached recognition from apostate Rome? What if he was still ( still? Was he ever? ) a friendly colleague of Williamson? The questions answer themselves I should think.