Author Topic: The Christmas crib at the European Parliament (Read 22079 times)

JPaul · « **Reply #45 on:** December 16, 2014, 09:48:38 AM »

Wessex,

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I personally cannot see this other than an orchestrated PR event, full of calculations and media opportunism for which the bishop is well-known.

That really is the long and the short of it. A very "Francis" flavored moment, and one might add, one that a certain operative is known to encourage.

One wonders if he paused at the ubiquitous Menorah, which must surely have been present in that place.

JPaul · « **Reply #46 on:** December 16, 2014, 10:09:46 AM »

Nishant,

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I think the evidence shows that, on the whole, and despite a few missteps, Bishop Fellay is doing the best he can, both to promote the return of Tradition to the Church, and the restoration of the Kingship of Christ in society

This is an opinion based upon personal interpretations of events. His missteps so called, were defended by no other than himself, which demonstrates his deliberate actions relating to them. So missteps they were not.

What he has done with his injection of ambiguity and warming up to
modernist ideas has further fractured and confused the remnants of Tradition and forestalled the day when Christ will be restored to His proper place.

While it is nice to wax piously over such clerics, the objective reality does not support such an undisciplined view of these events.

Francisco · « **Reply #47 on:** December 16, 2014, 10:22:05 AM »

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Bishop Fellay is doing everything a traditional Catholic Bishop should do, working for the restoration of all things in Christ, and the return of Christian civilization, like Archbishop Lefebvre did before him.

Ah, so it is in the interests of restoring all things in Christ that Bp. Fellay has severely disciplined numbers of his priests and run others out of the sspx altogether. Bp Williamson himself, one might reasonably speculate, was punished and eventually cast out because somehow the good bishop impeded "the return of Christian civilization." Additionally, perhaps it may have been that the SG came to the rescue of "our elder brothers" because he perceived that some of H.E.'s attitudes and public utterances were preventing the restoration of Jєωιѕн civilization. Why couldn't the Archbishop have caught up with Bp. Williamson many years ago? Why could Lefebvre not have seen then that his wayward bishop was, by his actions, slowing the course of true restoration? And why, if Bp. Fellay is doing everything he should do, have so many left sspx? My wife and I have abandoned him and his movement, and don't even care to look back.

Nishant wont answer your questions, as, he may be, as some of us suspect, Fr Laisney, the perpetual SSPX theologian. :smoke-pot:

hugeman · « **Reply #48 on:** December 16, 2014, 12:59:19 PM »

Over ten pages of posts on this topic snd STILL no translation of the comments of the dignitaries present, and of the remarks of the Bishop? Still no solid explanation of how Fellay, who has no standing in the Church controlled by the Romans, came to be at the E.U. Headquarters just when they were putting out for public show a creche? Why wouldn't Lorans, or Krah, or DICI, or SiSi NoNo, or Rostand, even, be shouting from the rooftops how they've been accepted in the belly of the beast?

JPaul · « **Reply #49 on:** December 16, 2014, 01:57:03 PM »

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Over ten pages of posts on this topic snd STILL no translation of the comments of the dignitaries present, and of the remarks of the Bishop? Still no solid explanation of how Fellay, who has no standing in the Church controlled by the Romans, came to be at the E.U. Headquarters just when they were putting out for public show a creche? Why wouldn't Lorans, or Krah, or DICI, or SiSi NoNo, or Rostand, even, be shouting from the rooftops how they've been accepted in the belly of the beast?

The event was likely for the European audience for a particular target and goal.