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The Christmas crib at the European Parliament
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2014, 05:51:58 PM »
Pilar, fair enough.  I do suggest you do some objective studying up on the EU.  It is an evil world body that doesn't believe in the nation state, God, or liberty for people who are unfortunate enough to fall under its control.  I consider it a wicked government body.  Nothing good to come from meeting with such people and we are warned in scripture not to do so.  

The Christmas crib at the European Parliament
« Reply #36 on: December 15, 2014, 06:26:02 PM »
Nickolas:
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Pilar, fair enough. I do suggest you do some objective studying up on the EU. It is an evil world body that doesn't believe in the nation state, God, or liberty for people who are unfortunate enough to fall under its control. I consider it a wicked government body. Nothing good to come from meeting with such people and we are warned in scripture not to do so.


Yes, Pilar, you are a bright enough person, I'm sure.  But you oughtn't to cut the EU any slack at all.  Take Niclolas' advice to heart.  The EU is an evil and "wicked ( would be world) government body."  Many of its most prominent leaders are communists.  Why, one of its first, if not the first, president of the EP was a raging Maoist, Jose Manuel Barroso.  The EU is merely Soviet Communism moved to another venue and wearing a different mask.


The Christmas crib at the European Parliament
« Reply #37 on: December 15, 2014, 09:06:15 PM »
Quote from: Nickolas
Pilar, fair enough.  I do suggest you do some objective studying up on the EU.  It is an evil world body that doesn't believe in the nation state, God, or liberty for people who are unfortunate enough to fall under its control.  I consider it a wicked government body.  Nothing good to come from meeting with such people and we are warned in scripture not to do so.  


Nickolas, all government bodies are wicked today. Bishop Fellay was doing nothing wrong. He was doing great good. It is miraculous that he was allowed to do what he did and that there is a Nativity Creche there. Thank God! How it must upset the evil folks there.

If we do nothing good where we are surrounded by wickedness, we will do nothing good anywhere in this world. Our Lord said, "So let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven." If good bishops, priests and laymen refuse to glorify God in the most public places, then that light will be hidden as we are forbidden to do. The EU is a very public place and now the world knows that there is a bishop who is not ashamed to bless with the traditional rituals of the Church the beautiful Nativity scene they have there. And he does so elegantly, with a smile.

St. Philip Neri, according to one story, was enticed into a brothel by someone who told him that a woman was dying there and needed a priest. He went and found it was a trap, but instead of running out, he stayed to convert the women there. Imagine the scene, St. Philip Neri surrounded by partially clad women weeping over their sins. There can be no doubt that a brothel is one of the worst places on earth but he did not hesitate to do good there. Are we so set in our determination to find fault with the Society that we don't recognize good, holy action when we see it?

 

The Christmas crib at the European Parliament
« Reply #38 on: December 15, 2014, 09:18:58 PM »
Quote from: hollingsworth
Nickolas:
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Pilar, fair enough. I do suggest you do some objective studying up on the EU. It is an evil world body that doesn't believe in the nation state, God, or liberty for people who are unfortunate enough to fall under its control. I consider it a wicked government body. Nothing good to come from meeting with such people and we are warned in scripture not to do so.


Yes, Pilar, you are a bright enough person, I'm sure.  But you oughtn't to cut the EU any slack at all.  Take Niclolas' advice to heart.  The EU is an evil and "wicked ( would be world) government body."  Many of its most prominent leaders are communists.  Why, one of its first, if not the first, president of the EP was a raging Maoist, Jose Manuel Barroso.  The EU is merely Soviet Communism moved to another venue and wearing a different mask.


Hollingsworth, I know, I know, you are completely right about the EU, but I still say it does not matter. God's work may be done anywhere. The UN, the Hague, Freemasonic temples, hospitals and clinics that practice abortion and euthanasia, all of these places and many more, house great evil. But I think that if any of our traditional priests were called there to minister the last rites to the dying in those places, they would and do go.

It isn't being a bright enough person. It is knowing my Faith and having a little of the wisdom of old age.  :geezer:

The Christmas crib at the European Parliament
« Reply #39 on: December 15, 2014, 10:58:27 PM »
Quote from: Pilar
Quote from: Nickolas
Pilar, fair enough.  I do suggest you do some objective studying up on the EU.  It is an evil world body that doesn't believe in the nation state, God, or liberty for people who are unfortunate enough to fall under its control.  I consider it a wicked government body.  Nothing good to come from meeting with such people and we are warned in scripture not to do so.  


Nickolas, all government bodies are wicked today. Bishop Fellay was doing nothing wrong. He was doing great good. It is miraculous that he was allowed to do what he did and that there is a Nativity Creche there. Thank God! How it must upset the evil folks there.

If we do nothing good where we are surrounded by wickedness, we will do nothing good anywhere in this world. Our Lord said, "So let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven." If good bishops, priests and laymen refuse to glorify God in the most public places, then that light will be hidden as we are forbidden to do. The EU is a very public place and now the world knows that there is a bishop who is not ashamed to bless with the traditional rituals of the Church the beautiful Nativity scene they have there. And he does so elegantly, with a smile.

St. Philip Neri, according to one story, was enticed into a brothel by someone who told him that a woman was dying there and needed a priest. He went and found it was a trap, but instead of running out, he stayed to convert the women there. Imagine the scene, St. Philip Neri surrounded by partially clad women weeping over their sins. There can be no doubt that a brothel is one of the worst places on earth but he did not hesitate to do good there. Are we so set in our determination to find fault with the Society that we don't recognize good, holy action when we see it?

 


Pilar, stories are fine and true sometimes.  So often though, our actions are based on the flesh or our own idea of what is the best thing to do, wheras, what God wants us to do has already been told.  Yes, we let our light shine, but not in the living room of those who would deceive us. The EU didn't need anyone to put a creche in their plaza if that is what they wanted.  No, they wanted a show and a showman.

In 2012, this particular Bishop nearly destroyed the SSPX after he and his leadership team were wined and dined for two years by Rome.  Following the talks, he was ready to ditch Traditional doctrine for a practical agreement and it was only our Blessed Lord and Lady that slammed the door on the deal. Even now, the SSPX is not the same, slashing and cutting "resistors" who dare to walk forward rather than turn from the path of the Traditional Catholic Church while setting a "softer" tone on everything.  The fire is gone and with it, the edge of truth. So much for letting one's light shine.

Proverbs 4 has much to say about this:  http://biblehub.com/drb/proverbs/4.htm

This proverb seems to apply to the SSPX leadership though:

Proverbs 13:20Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

20 He that walketh with the wise, shall be wise: a friend of fools shall become like to them.