Author Topic: The Christmas crib at the European Parliament (Read 22099 times)

JPaul · « **Reply #30 on:** December 15, 2014, 02:28:50 PM »

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Oh did the Archbishop have an operative for the Jews at his right hand as well?

Speaking of that operative for the jews, have we heard much lately about that well fed gentleman? Was he there, perhaps, at tje blessing of the Crib? We seem to be in the midst recently of an information blackout.

Judging by recent events which have shown a discernible pattern, whenever the Bishop is engaging with the more worldly powers, Max Krah is usually facilitating on some level, as that is his usual working environment and where his business and political connections are to be found.

Nickolas · « **Reply #31 on:** December 15, 2014, 03:13:35 PM »

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I wish someone would give a synopsis of the interview with the Bishop for us. He looked much too happy and flattered to be there. Perhaps he has forgotten all that this European Parliament has done to strip Europe of all that remains of its Catholic heritage. Not to mention the member country's rights to determine their own laws such as those that outlaw abortion or ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. To see a nativity scene there is quite a contradiction to their agenda. One has to wonder how it came about.

Bishop Fellay is at the European Parliament because he has the courage to enter the Lion's Den.

Bishop Fellay says the Nativity Creche in the public spaces of Europe and America is simple honesty. He says everything those nations have become they owe to the Nativity of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the public Nativity Creche is simple recognition of this truth such that even atheists ought to be able to recognise the fact. He says this requires courage. These are sufficiently hard words and he speaks them well with a friendly smile.

His words here show him to be a man who is not lacking in courage. In this video he shows himself to be a bishop of the Church of Rome. He shows he is worthy of respect.

He is some sort of Jesuit and I am a Franciscan, but despite everything I must respect him for what he does in this video. And when some sort of Jesuit like Bishop Fellay commands the respect of a Franciscan like me, then he is entitled to the respect of every Catholic. He is entitled to our respect.

May the Good Lord bless Bishop Fellay!

Solitary, you don't know why Bishop Fellay is there, so please stop spinning the story. It is telling that there has been no word from the SSPX about the SG's presence at the shopping center style creche scene, for whatever reason. And why the SSPX SG?? Why not the local ordinary?

The EU does not represent the "good guys" here. If you were invited by your local masonic order in town to speak at their next lunch, would you do it? Nothing good could come from it, speaking before a gang of wolves. On the other hand, the wolves can claim much success by drawing attention to their big hearts and willingness to attract the presence of the good Bishop. He should have stayed away in deference to their ungodly nature, but personally, I believe his ego wouldn't let him. To bad the SSPX is always spinning themselves, part of the branding, I suppose.

Pilar · « **Reply #32 on:** December 15, 2014, 04:25:44 PM »

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NIshant is saying, apparently that Bp. F. has made no mistakes

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Bishop Fellay is doing everything a traditional Catholic Bishop should do, working for the restoration of all things in Christ, and the return of Christian civilization, like Archbishop Lefebvre did before him.

Oh did the Archbishop have an operative for the Jews at his right hand as well?

Our Lord had an "operative for the Jews" at hand. Even Jews will be used for God's purposes.

That is indeed a very Novus Ordoish anecdote, which while cute, does not address the reality under discussion. And, while Bishop Fellay may be a messiah to his devotees, he is not Jesus, and it remains uncertain who it is that is using his operative, and to what purpose.

My purpose is not to be "cute". I am making a salient point. There is nothing of the N.O. in the doctrine that God uses all things toward His end, eh?

Pilar · « **Reply #33 on:** December 15, 2014, 04:28:31 PM »

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Oh did the Archbishop have an operative for the Jews at his right hand as well?

Speaking of that operative for the jews, have we heard much lately about that well fed gentleman? Was he there, perhaps, at tje blessing of the Crib? We seem to be in the midst recently of an information blackout.

Judging by recent events which have shown a discernible pattern, whenever the Bishop is engaging with the more worldly powers, Max Krah is usually facilitating on some level, as that is his usual working environment and where his business and political connections are to be found.

Why would Krah be interested in facilitating any connections with European Nationalism?

Pilar · « **Reply #34 on:** December 15, 2014, 04:34:51 PM »

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I wish someone would give a synopsis of the interview with the Bishop for us. He looked much too happy and flattered to be there. Perhaps he has forgotten all that this European Parliament has done to strip Europe of all that remains of its Catholic heritage. Not to mention the member country's rights to determine their own laws such as those that outlaw abortion or ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity. To see a nativity scene there is quite a contradiction to their agenda. One has to wonder how it came about.

Bishop Fellay is at the European Parliament because he has the courage to enter the Lion's Den.

Bishop Fellay says the Nativity Creche in the public spaces of Europe and America is simple honesty. He says everything those nations have become they owe to the Nativity of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the public Nativity Creche is simple recognition of this truth such that even atheists ought to be able to recognise the fact. He says this requires courage. These are sufficiently hard words and he speaks them well with a friendly smile.

His words here show him to be a man who is not lacking in courage. In this video he shows himself to be a bishop of the Church of Rome. He shows he is worthy of respect.

He is some sort of Jesuit and I am a Franciscan, but despite everything I must respect him for what he does in this video. And when some sort of Jesuit like Bishop Fellay commands the respect of a Franciscan like me, then he is entitled to the respect of every Catholic. He is entitled to our respect.

May the Good Lord bless Bishop Fellay!

Solitary, you don't know why Bishop Fellay is there, so please stop spinning the story. It is telling that there has been no word from the SSPX about the SG's presence at the shopping center style creche scene, for whatever reason. And why the SSPX SG?? Why not the local ordinary?

The EU does not represent the "good guys" here. If you were invited by your local masonic order in town to speak at their next lunch, would you do it? Nothing good could come from it, speaking before a gang of wolves. On the other hand, the wolves can claim much success by drawing attention to their big hearts and willingness to attract the presence of the good Bishop. He should have stayed away in deference to their ungodly nature, but personally, I believe his ego wouldn't let him. To bad the SSPX is always spinning themselves, part of the branding, I suppose.

My guess is that Franciscan Solitary does know a bit about it and you obviously don't know anything about it. It has already been pointed out that not all of the leaders of the EU are rotten and there are some who are actually promoting the Christian roots of European civilization. And since when is it not a good idea for a Catholic Bishop to bring God's truth to the public fore anywhere? Do those of us who are lucky enough to be traditional Catholic have exclusive rights to the Truth or is it not what God established His Church for; to spread Truth and save souls?