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The Charitable Anathema: Bishop Thomas Aquinas Refuses "Invitation"
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2016, 10:30:16 AM »
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  • Quote from: RogerThat
    hahahahhahahahhaa

    2000 souls?



    hahahahahahahahaha

    Also Bishop Williamson has stated multiple times that his PRIMARY reason for not working with the seminarians in Boston is NOT because of Fr. Pfifer but because they are not being adequately formed (no horarium, no curriculum, no instruction, etc.)



    I've heard otherwise from parents of seminarians.  Wonder if anyone saying this is present there in any serious capacity?

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    The Charitable Anathema: Bishop Thomas Aquinas Refuses "Invitation"
    « Reply #31 on: November 11, 2016, 11:43:12 AM »
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  • I ran afoul of the Boston Pfeiffer cult on you tube..





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    The Charitable Anathema: Bishop Thomas Aquinas Refuses "Invitation"
    « Reply #32 on: November 11, 2016, 01:06:14 PM »
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  • unreal, I am banned me from his You Tube channel just for
    posting that I didn't approve of Pfeiffer's racist comments against
    Fr. Roy in Quebec.

    Anyone who thinks calling a fellow priest (and a resistance priest,
    at that, although somehow still a heretic according to Pfeiffer)
    a "frog priest", and refers to French Canadian masses as
    "frog masses" is not a mature Roman Catholic, to accept a priest
    talking this way and to applaud him is sick.

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    The Charitable Anathema: Bishop Thomas Aquinas Refuses "Invitation"
    « Reply #33 on: November 11, 2016, 01:21:35 PM »
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  • I have heard good things about Father Roy. It is sad that Father Pfeiffer has sunk so low.

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    The Charitable Anathema: Bishop Thomas Aquinas Refuses "Invitation"
    « Reply #34 on: November 11, 2016, 10:09:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: snowball
    unreal, I am banned me from his You Tube channel just for
    posting that I didn't approve of Pfeiffer's racist comments against
    Fr. Roy in Quebec.

    Anyone who thinks calling a fellow priest (and a resistance priest,
    at that, although somehow still a heretic according to Pfeiffer)
    a "frog priest", and refers to French Canadian masses as
    "frog masses" is not a mature Roman Catholic, to accept a priest
    talking this way and to applaud him is sick.


    "Racist"?

    Give me a break.

    You must be a special snowflake and not a snowball if you are that easily offended by his lack of political correctness.

    Fr. Pfeiffer has been calling the French "frogs" for years and years. You need a much thicker skin.


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    The Charitable Anathema: Bishop Thomas Aquinas Refuses "Invitation"
    « Reply #35 on: November 11, 2016, 11:00:11 PM »
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    Quote from: snowball
    unreal, I am banned me from his You Tube channel just for
    posting that I didn't approve of Pfeiffer's racist comments against
    Fr. Roy in Quebec.

    Anyone who thinks calling a fellow priest (and a resistance priest,
    at that, although somehow still a heretic according to Pfeiffer)
    a "frog priest", and refers to French Canadian masses as
    "frog masses" is not a mature Roman Catholic, to accept a priest
    talking this way and to applaud him is sick.


    "Racist"?

    Give me a break.

    You must be a special snowflake and not a snowball if you are that easily offended by his lack of political correctness.

    Fr. Pfeiffer has been calling the French "frogs" for years and years. You need a much thicker skin.



    Yes, you do need a thicker skin, snowball.

    I'm a frog from Quebec and I'm proud of it.

    Fr. Pfeiffer is just joking when he calls us frogs and we often have a good laugh about it.

    As they say, "If you're not worth a laugh, you're not worth much."

    The real problem with Fr. Roy is his sedevacantist error. Let's pray for him.



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    The Charitable Anathema: Bishop Thomas Aquinas Refuses "Invitation"
    « Reply #36 on: November 13, 2016, 02:25:46 PM »
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    On (or about) October 15, Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko “invited” His Excellency, Bishop Thomas Aquinas to visit Boston, KY.

    Bishop Thomas Aquinas made the following reply:

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    Date: Mon. 17 Oct. 2016
    Dear Father,
    I think we are in the same situation than in the beginning of the year when I was obliged to say to you not coming to Santa Cruz if you didn't do something as reparation about what you said towards Bishops of resistance. I heard you or Fr. Hewko or both called Bishop Williamson heretic. How can we speak with you if you say things like this one? I hope you change your positions as to be able to meet you.
    May God make you see what is wrong in your behavior.
    +Thomas Aquinas


    To this reply, Fr. Pfeiffer and Fr. Hewko made this incredible response:

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    Date: 18 October 2016
    My Lord, your Excellency,
    You refuse to speak to us because you heard that someone said that they heard that we said "Bishop Williamson is a heretic." Hence, those souls who are dying in need of Extreme Unction may not be anointed by Frs. JP and Hewko since these priests may have spoken offensively about Bishop Williamson. Offending the good name of Bishop Williamson means they may not receive the Sacraments of the Church before death.
    Seminarians studying for Priesthood may not be ordained since their rector is perceived to be too critical of Bishop Williamson. Is the good bishop's name worth more than the Name of the Lord God, Creator of us all?
    Our more than 2000 sheep are unworthy of Sacraments also since they may not honor his Episcopal name sufficiently?
    You are a Bishop and will soon meet your Creator and Lord at the Judgement. Will you have to repeat the words of Cardinal Wolsey, the Faithful servant of Henry VIII of England? He said, "If only I had served my God half as well as I served my King." You are indeed a loyal servant of Bishop Williamson, and you are proving it by your worthy actions of defending him by doing whatever is in your power to destroy his perceived enemies.
    Did you not tell souls to avoid Fr. Cardozo Masses and sacraments for the same reason?
    Did you not also encourage the Columbians to expel Fr. Raphael and his little Monastery for the same reasons?
    You have been a zealous Bishop defending the honor of the Lord of Broadstairs.
    I met several times before a Monk - Dom Tomas Aquino who served the Lord of Heaven. What happened to him? Whence has he gone?
    Did Archbishop Lefebvre (or any other Catholic Bishop) refuse sacraments, etc. to anyone who called him by bad names?
    Fr. Hewko and myself, for the record, have never called Bishop Williamson a Heretic anyway.
    Before you were consecrated you did three evil condemnable acts.

    1. You wrote two letters about the New Mass supporting Bishop Williamson's statements on the New Mass.
    2. You told souls to reject Fr. Cardozo because of his critical remarks against Bishop Williamson.
    3. You wrote a letter of rejection against myself and Fr. Hewko forbidding us to attend your Consecration or even to visit afterwards. Was this the price you had to pay to receive purple and a cross about your chest?
    I was told before of a bad monk in Brazil who did not follow the Rule of St. Benedict, who was mentally ill in need of being replaced. No young man should be allowed to enter his monastery etc. I did not believe them. After meeting you in Silver City then in Brazil all doubts were removed.
    You should be familiar with being a victim of Calumny and hence owe, in justice, to give Fr. Hewko and I a fair hearing.
    In your visit to the USA and Canada there are about 1000 or more souls who won't see you since they are with Boston, KY. They are being left orphans by you and Bishop Faure, mere suffragan bishops of Bishop Williamson - and why?...Because they hold on to the Faith handed down by their Fathers especially Archbishop Lefebvre, who rejected the New Mass and the New Church or order to remain faithful to "Eternal Rome." Eternal Rome is still here on earth now in all souls that remain at this moment Faithful to Her.
    I do not lightly criticize you, but with a heavy hope that your conscience will remember former times when it served God rather than a man. Can you really say that you now are serving God?
    A Moral Theology reminder. No priest may refuse Sacraments or priestly help to anyone who attacks his person or makes accusation against himself. Even if we had called BPW or thyself "heretic" this would not be an excuse before God to refuse any priestly help. This is the familiar teaching of the Gospel that even pagans know, "do good to those who hate you" etc. Therefore your reason to refuse us has no foundation in Christ or His Holy Gospel.
    If, however, Fr. Hewko and I are preachers of Heresy or grave errors then as a bishop of the Church you must correct us by both pointing out our errors (allowing a defense of course) and teaching the correct way.
    God bless you Excellency, we can still come to see you if you allow us, as discreetly or publicly as you wish.
    In Christ our King and King of all creation,
    Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer
    Fr. David Hewko


    Commentary:

    So Fr. Pfeiffer wants to portray himself as the victim here: Bishop Thomas Aquinas's refusal is totally unreasonable, because contrary to whatever he may have heard, Fr. Pfeiffer never called Bishop Williamson a heretic.

    But Fr. Pfeiffer must have an exceedingly short memory, because on one of the forums loyal to him, they place a very great emphasis on this quote from one of his recent sermons (which at the time of the above correspondence was only 2 weeks old!):


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    “He [Bishop Williamson] says, now, the new Mass has true in it and the new Mass has false in it; the new Mass has good in it, and the new Mass has bad in it. Now the bad is dangerous, but the good and the true benefit the soul.

    And this is a teaching which is condemned by Our Holy Mother the Church. It is the foundation of the heresy of ecuмenism.”


    Can Fr. Pfeiffer explain how this quote is compatible with his denial to Bishop Thomas Aquinas (above) that "Fr. Hewko and myself, for the record, have never called Bishop Williamson a Heretic anyway?"



    Yes he can. Here is his explanation.


    Fr. Pfeiffer:

    “We never said Bishop Williamson is a heretic. We don’t even say the Pope is a heretic. The Pope teaches heresy, and unfortunately, that heresy has to be condemned. But it doesn’t mean he’s a heretic because we don’t know what’s inside of his heart. And so, we don’t even say the Pope is a heretic. The sedevacantists say he’s a heretic. We don’t even say that he’s a heretic. We say, “No, because he’s doing what the world tells him to do.” But he is teaching heresy, and we have to say, “That heresy is wrong. Don’t listen to it.” But he’s still the Pope.

    And so, likewise, Bishop Williamson is still a bishop. Of course, he doesn’t have any authority. He’s not a bishop of the diocese or anything. But he still is a bishop who was consecrated by Archbishop Lefebvre, and therefore, we honor and respect him as the father of our priesthood – Fr. Hewko’s priesthood. We honor and respect him. But, unfortunately, teaching something that’s not right, we have to say,”That’s not right.” That’s all. And that we must stand for the Truth and if we’re mistaken in what we say. Fine. Let it be corrected. But nonetheless, so far, no correction.”



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